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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 21:05 GMT
#1560
On February 07 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:
Might go full batshit insane tinfoil depending on the night actions TBH.


Don't, I can help you figure out the night kills, that and voting is my specialty. Feel free to keep posting random troll shit you may or may not believe in to mindfuck mafia though, that's all night is good for.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 21:07 GMT
#1563
mafia team is JAT, marv, koshi, palmar I will be pushing them tomorrow
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 23:02 GMT
#1585
i didnt even call anyone a cum dumpster this game yet though
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 23:10 GMT
#1591
On February 07 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I just shoot ritoky.



did you actually do this? lol
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 23:22 GMT
#1602
On February 07 2016 08:21 marvellosity wrote:
He's saying the argument looks too polite, it looks like at least one party is arguing because they're supposed to be arguing rather than because they believe it


which is a really stupid opinion in a HTS game but I digress. I dont dare to post anything even remotely controversial.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 23:33 GMT
#1616
On February 07 2016 08:30 disformation wrote:
Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument.


no its not. its the first thing I noticed as well, but it confirms what we basically already know. palmar is 99% mafia

theres nothing WIFOM about it
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2016 23:35 GMT
#1619
isnt damdred good at reading onegu or something? He's probably mafia.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 07 2016 00:15 GMT
#1632
On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote:
I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though

IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play?


unless you are implying marv is mafia here I don't really understand what you are getting at. Are you rambling or is there something to this
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 07 2016 00:51 GMT
#1649
On February 07 2016 09:46 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2016 09:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote:
I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though

IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play?


unless you are implying marv is mafia here I don't really understand what you are getting at. Are you rambling or is there something to this


I think it was rather clear what I'm getting at. People have said that 3 people killed made sense from mafia!Palmar pov. My point is that marv would make more sense than ritoky, for example, if those were the reasons.

With 4 mafia and so much heat already on Palmar, I doubt the NKs would simply revolve around scum!Palmar targets because he's likely to get lynched D2, and the other 3 need to start preparing for post scum!Palmar/town!Palmar lynch. I think this is supported by the Hux shot

I find the ritoky and damdred kills particularly odd because ritoky foreshadowed low activity (relatively ez to drive a mislynch on inactive good player) and damdred said stuff like

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On February 06 2016 07:49 Damdred wrote:
It's a bit of a lot of people have been towny with very few scummy atm to me


Wouldn't mafia want to keep a guy who's townreading every in the game? Meh


I think you are really just over analyzing and looking for stuff that isnt there. Ritoky and damdred are both capable players that voted Palmar, That is pretty much the only angle ive found.

The most confusing kill to me is actually JAT if palmar is indeed mafia. He switched last second WITH palmar and that definitely could be construed as scummy.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 07 2016 17:25 GMT
#1739
I see no reason to not think that the scum team is just like palmar/onegu/chez/moosy. I'm having the same problem as damdred this game. There are a few outliers like boxerfred/koshi/darth that have made me feel uneasy but everyone else i am pretty town on. And these only because they voted for zyrre when im pretty sure palmar is mafia.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 07 2016 18:40 GMT
#1783
On February 08 2016 03:33 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 00:59 disformation wrote:
Looking through VA's filter.
I like that he was able to step back and reevaluate NM. I also like a few other posts and his tone. Didn't really like the suggestion for a NVT to claim. There are also not that many reads in his filter imo.
Would like him to put out a few more of those.


There were a few things I didn't like about VA which I discussed, and he's not done much to show he's town (the lynch Palmar thing after the day 1 lynch where he's effectively claimed scum won't say much). Additionally, if Palmar is scum, his vote on Palmar is actually bad - it screams bus city for 3 reasons.

(1) it was inorganic
(2) it was well after concerns about Palmar had been expressed (pokes particularly by Marv early in the game I'm sure were before this)
(3) it was done at a time where he needed town cred (mafia motivation is to bus for cred), because at that time, only Damdred was townreading him, or heck it might have even been before that. ritoky and I were scumreading VA to some various degree, and I don't think most of this game had a read on VA when they were asked to eval VA v myself

VA prior to getting on Palmar's wagon was pushing me and when he couldn't do that, he dropped the scumread, Additionally when I pushed him further earlier on, he got very defensive. Quotes:

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On February 06 2016 03:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 06 2016 02:59 NocturneMage wrote:
EBWOP (at disformation):

On February 06 2016 00:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh and ##vote: Palmar

He is supposed to be my day 1 antithesis, the pinnacle of good day 1 play. where is that here


Read VAs filter. ZERO mention of Palmar and this timing was well after my post/others' discussion. Ask him that too.


has the nocturnemage ever heard of sleep by any chance? Of course I wasn't around for 250+ posts when I'm sleeping. I really can't understand your constant antagonizing, making a case on me is fine but these constant asinine nitpicks are insane. I really don't understand.


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On February 06 2016 03:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
The only thing truly scummy about NM disform is how he is a huge hypocrite. He is constantly berating me/scumreading me for things and then ignores anything that would have to make him justify it. Really annoying playstyle that makes it impossible to read him.


Especially the problem with the above is that the "sleep" explanation doesn't cover for his push on me earlier and his not mentioning Palmar at that time. It doesn't answer the concern in the least.

Now admittedly at this point in time, the vote thing is unflipped association, but if Palmar flips mafia, then he looks really bad despite voting Palmar.


dam dude you are even worse then I thought. Thinking I am lying about sleeping, that is really reaching. Especially when the reason for me being mafia would make you mafia by proxy, pretty faulty reasoning.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 07 2016 18:46 GMT
#1787
On February 08 2016 03:42 NocturneMage wrote:
Oh and VA, I'm not saying you are lying about sleeping. That wasn't what my point was at all. Considering my purpose of stating that in there along with my explanation before and after, I think you are (quite likely intentionally) missing the point.


1. you are tunneling

2. you are fabricating whatever your point is, the only way that explanation makes sense is if you think I was lying about sleeping. The only way I would be able to join in the palmar discussion was if i was in the thread at the time.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 07 2016 19:17 GMT
#1801
On February 08 2016 03:54 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 03:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 08 2016 03:42 NocturneMage wrote:
Oh and VA, I'm not saying you are lying about sleeping. That wasn't what my point was at all. Considering my purpose of stating that in there along with my explanation before and after, I think you are (quite likely intentionally) missing the point.


1. you are tunneling

2. you are fabricating whatever your point is, the only way that explanation makes sense is if you think I was lying about sleeping. The only way I would be able to join in the palmar discussion was if i was in the thread at the time.



(1) Nope. I'm pretty sure you're mafia. Try again.

(2) Nope again, you don't have to be in thread with Palmar to make that conclusion ahead of the time. Nor was my point even about you interacting with Palmar. Your reasoning for Palmar was this:

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On February 06 2016 00:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh and ##vote: Palmar

He is supposed to be my day 1 antithesis, the pinnacle of good day 1 play. where is that here


Which is a point that is irrelevant to interactions.


Nope

Talking to you is like a brick wall that spouts gibberish, does anyone even understand what this guy is talking about? im putting him in chezinu territory at this point
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 14:30 GMT
#1945
the only question I have for Palmar is why was he clearly here and chose to just lurk the thread and vote at the last second, who does that as town
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 14:38 GMT
#1946
On February 08 2016 03:51 disformation wrote:
Also. Since scum shot the only two persons I really trusted in this damn game I need someone to sheep.
Taking applications as to why I should sheep you, when I can start sheeping you and what your plans are to solve this game by day 3. Thank you guys.



saving this post for later in my filter, suspicious and ill forget
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:04 GMT
#1951
On February 08 2016 23:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
the only question I have for Palmar is why was he clearly here and chose to just lurk the thread and vote at the last second, who does that as town


he already explained this right?
he was playing board games with the fam.


That doesn't really explain anything though. I can handle afking this long since ive had to do the same once in a while but I've never seen some one that wasn't scum do a last minute vote like that to save himself after afking lol. and ive seen quite a few of them
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:05 GMT
#1952
On February 08 2016 23:39 marvellosity wrote:
disfo is like 100% town


yea his filter is already 12 pages, so probably. But never hurts to start preparing for lategame, I dont foresee me or him dying anytime soon.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:18 GMT
#1956
On February 09 2016 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 00:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 08 2016 23:39 marvellosity wrote:
disfo is like 100% town


yea his filter is already 12 pages, so probably. But never hurts to start preparing for lategame, I dont foresee me or him dying anytime soon.

he'll still be 100% town then too, 100% is 100%


alright then, who should I be looking at? give me something to read im bored with palmar.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:32 GMT
#1963
On February 09 2016 00:21 nooniansoong wrote:
i like koshi for possible tryhardish scum
then nm for possible but unlikely tryhard superscum


both of those are completely legit and possible if the scumteam isnt superlurk squad.

I still don't have a 100% tr on koshi but leaning town. its possible because of how the game played out + we have a lot of good players he doesnt feel the need to do much? i dont know honestly. All i can remember is him tunneling you and doesn't seem super cocky on any reads besides that which isnt normal.

If palmar is scum though, he hard defended him since the beginning when he didnt really have to and made himself look super bad for basically no reason. Maybe I should look more at what he has done to help town though because I dont think its been much

As for NM, its possible he is going for a BH style scum play but I honestly just started ignoring him. If you read his posts in depth they are actually just long walls of texts of nothing again recently that dont mean anything and are borderline english.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 08 2016 15:34 GMT
#1964
There was also the thing with NM where he says I am bussing palmar pre-emptively and at the same time paints me for things as scummy that would by proxy make him scummy! which is terrible hypocritical logic that is often used by scum.
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