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On February 09 2016 08:43 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 08:26 Chezinu wrote:On February 05 2016 14:30 Chezinu wrote:
Here is a list of answer Chezinu provided in the game:
Chezinu
Palmar
nooniansoong
Zyrre
Interesting picks I must say. Interesting indeed. Very Interesting.
no it isn't, dearest.
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RIddle me this:
On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum
On February 09 2016 16:19 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 08:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:On February 09 2016 01:50 boxerfred wrote:
Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.
:D lynch boxer! Noted. This post is a great indicator that MD had not read the thread when he started to inquire reads from people. He also only follows others in his reads. Lots of pretended activity and participation. Koshi indeed feels wishywashy, would love to listen to his reads if there are any. Marv confirmed town after the Palmar flip, Rels and LightningStrike are not scum together for the reaction to the thread entry from Rels which makes me hard townread Rels. LS remains a null. Chez should be scum at this point. Scum probably Chez, nooniansong, MD, LS, Koshi. Maybe do some PoE?
These posts are barely any apart in boxerfred's filter.
In the first, he is assuming Palmar is flipping mafia and I could be mafia with him, and even asserts his read when i tell him he's insane to think it, because 'attacking Palmar puts me in a great light'
Now Palmar flips mafia, I am 'confirmed town' despite the fact he was already working on that assumption when he put me in a team with him and told me i'd look good for attacking him.
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at first it was going to be a boring "Chez is a troll and said this and this and this"
but actually his point about the difference in Chez's treatment of me/him having named us both is actually fairly interesting.
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Rels, you were the first to properly case Koshi n1 / start of d2 weren't you?
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okay. but you definitely made one while it still wasn't popular right? :p
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need to try to get some townreads out of the dunnos. that's gonna be my next task when i get round to it.
i think:
rels
NM
disfo
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ugh....
On February 04 2016 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Let's settle somethings.
ritoky - scum
palmar - dunno, don't like his reaction to my post, scumlean
disformation - town
jat - he came in and it felt like he read the thread but answered to very specific things only. it's a stomach feeling but it's a bad feeling. problem is that I actually like what he's saying. hmm i dunno.
rels - seems focused on darthfoley and me, didn't drop any other reads (afaik, i went over his filter real quick, might've missed something). I'd townlean him.
marv - drops some town reads but isn't too scumhunting too much. last time he rolled scum he made a game to be rerolled which got him banned (or so?) so I'd actually give him a scumlean. high expectations vs. reality and so on.
nocturnemage, darthfoley: both disappeared a little bit, not liking that. scumleans
I think those are most thoughts on people that I have. Noct
On February 06 2016 04:13 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
This post is good. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat? This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time. This is also good. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
is it me or does this post not make any sense? he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me ? I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh. It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter. Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen. well what do you think? Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter? i've read the thread you chose the less enlightening option. Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts? I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes so what do you think of ritoky? comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good. And most interestingly: Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town. That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say. No, why not? There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically). When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly. So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right. now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,. Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable? tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum?
more posts that don't go together.
How can bf say he doesn't like Palmar's reaction to his stuff, and then goes on to call all Palmar's posts good and then I'm mafia and an afk-Palmar is town?
how?
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all the posts he is quoting from Palmar as "good" come before the post he made on Palmar saying he didn't like him and he's a scumlean.
really doesn't add up.
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On February 09 2016 20:47 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote:ugh.... On February 04 2016 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Let's settle somethings.
ritoky - scum
palmar - dunno, don't like his reaction to my post, scumlean
disformation - town
jat - he came in and it felt like he read the thread but answered to very specific things only. it's a stomach feeling but it's a bad feeling. problem is that I actually like what he's saying. hmm i dunno.
rels - seems focused on darthfoley and me, didn't drop any other reads (afaik, i went over his filter real quick, might've missed something). I'd townlean him.
marv - drops some town reads but isn't too scumhunting too much. last time he rolled scum he made a game to be rerolled which got him banned (or so?) so I'd actually give him a scumlean. high expectations vs. reality and so on.
nocturnemage, darthfoley: both disappeared a little bit, not liking that. scumleans
I think those are most thoughts on people that I have. Noct
On February 06 2016 04:13 boxerfred wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
This post is good. On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat? This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good. On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time. On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I do like how I summoned marv though This is also good. On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
is it me or does this post not make any sense? he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me ? I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh. It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter. Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good. On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen. well what do you think? Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good. On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good. On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter? i've read the thread you chose the less enlightening option. Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts? I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes so what do you think of ritoky? comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good. And most interestingly: On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town. That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say. No, why not? There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically). When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly. So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right. now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,. Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable? tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum? more posts that don't go together. How can bf say he doesn't like Palmar's reaction to his stuff, and then goes on to call all Palmar's posts good and then I'm mafia and an afk-Palmar is town? how? Easy. Scumlean is a thrown out list of reads, mostly based on gut and first impressions. The hard defense comes from a filter dive at a later D1. Of course you can nail me on that, but I think it wouldn't make sense for scum!bf to slightly bus palmar and then go full defense mode once he's the lynch.
it also doesn't make much sense for a townbf to dislike Palmar's reaction to what you said, only to later like it when nothing had changed. You literally said you didn't like his reaction and later called it good :/
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(when the progression makes sense
this is exactly the problem, it doesn't
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On February 09 2016 20:56 disformation wrote:
TBF I think BF's scum meta is to try and lurk as hard as possible.
On the other hand self-metaing is a bit meh.
it is not.
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On February 09 2016 21:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 20:54 marvellosity wrote: (when the progression makes sense this is exactly the problem, it doesn't Hm, yeah. On the other hand: isn't scum usually more worried about being consistent and therefore are not able to change their reads because they struggle to find a valid reason?
this is generic pap.
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I can easily come up with the mafia motivation for what he did, but I don't understand how he reads Palmar's reaction once and doesn't like them, and reads them later and suddenly likes them.
and yes, bf, chez has a good chance of being mafia, but that doesn't mean you can't be either.
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On February 09 2016 21:52 boxerfred wrote:
Hm what can I Do to Not be mislynched then?
just keep playing really. you're not gonna be up for lynch for a day or two probably. the more you play the better i guess
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On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia
*chuckles quietly*
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I'm kinda just farting around looking at stuff. I'm also already assuming Koshi has flipped mafia, because he's gonna.
On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade
I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?
This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.
@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach.
If darth is mafia, and he's pretty new, this would be a very ballsy thing to post.
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Koshi's filter also makes me think kush is town.
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On February 09 2016 22:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi's filter also makes me think kush is town. Hm this is interesting since I located him in a rather scummy spot in my post above. Koshi was voting nooniansong D1, I didn't pay attention to this. So if Koshi flips red, we have nooniansong in a safe spot.
It wasn't even so much that Koshi was going after kush (although I'd say that's a point in kush's favour). There was quite a bit of needle there. The not-from-the-same-team kinda needle, I think.
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not till later, LS. You should have a good idea where my head is from the smattering of posts I've made today.
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On February 09 2016 23:04 disformation wrote:
TBH it kinda baffles me that some ppl seem to think I am not 100% lock down town and will go full-ham-retarded-OMGUS if someone calls me scum.
i give pretty good training on this.
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