I decided to bring in rayn.

And I know hes town, but he doesnt have confirmation if I'm town. I am though :>
As for whether he has powers or not, he can decide if he wants to disclose it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 03 2016 21:54 GMT

#365

So is anyone interested in trying to win this game and doing townie things here?
Or are you all just gonna post nothing and troll? Because that's what has being on in this game since beginning.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

February 03 2016 22:07 GMT

#366

On February 03 2016 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I kinda want DHY to answer me on the following things:

Why did he decide to use his rewind ability on stealing VA's item instead of bringing confirmed town Zyrre back to life?
What was he confused about after D1 end?

I would appreciate detailed answers DYH, thanks.

1. I could maybe have brought Zyrre back, but I couldn't have changed that his wincon was completed, so he would have just been removed again.
2. I was 100% sure that VA was anti-town and I was scumming bf. I got my way on two deaths. Being wrong on both was very confusing.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

February 03 2016 22:08 GMT

#367

On February 04 2016 05:02 Vivax wrote:

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GB got apparently modconfirmed town by DYH's cookie and rayn is here cause of my role which brings a player into the game.

And we're masoned btw

It wasn't my cookie, my attempt to grab it failed, it was GB's cookie. I don't know if this matters.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 03 2016 22:08 GMT

#368

Okay that makes sense.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

February 03 2016 22:12 GMT

#369

@Vivax, why did you wait this long to bring someone guaranteed to be town into the game?

Vivax

22407 Posts

February 03 2016 22:14 GMT

#370

On February 04 2016 07:12 DoYouHas wrote:
@Vivax, why did you wait this long to bring someone guaranteed to be town into the game?

Cause I don't want to do excessively townie things on D1? I saw it as the trump card to become something like confirmed town since I'm basically a one-time recruiting mason.

Pretty much the reason I was so eager for people like ace to commit to a scumread on me whenever they tried to discredit me in some way.

Vivax

22407 Posts

February 03 2016 22:17 GMT

#371

DYH if you don't want to lynch KOshi Onegu is the only other option, but I think he's townish for tone, he slaps a lot of shallow reads around when he's mafia.

So right now it looks like you and Koshi are the best lynches.

And since you used your power you can claim your full role anyway

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 03 2016 22:26 GMT

#372

Okay so here is what i think;

- Glowingbear is town because the host said he is town. If there is an alignment-changing mechanic that happens mid-phase then it's unfortunate but that should not be the assumption in the first place, since it's just unreasonable to assume so. Obviously you can try to wifom every single thing in a mafia game if you so choose but that is just dumb.

- Vivax is town as he brought me to the game. If he is mafia and i am not that is just retarded thing to do (and a retarded power in the first place) and that just does not go as an argument. Sure you can argue that i am mafia with him. But then you come into the questions; Why do i post anything in the game right now? Why does Vivax do this on this phase (since he wasn't even under any suspicion). I can't answer the second question except for that it would be dumb to do that, and Koshi can try to yell "Vivax does dumb things as mafia" all he wants but it doesn't make it any more true. But the first question i can answer;

- If i am mafia with Vivax here i would not be posting in this game. If that is the case the game is right now 4-2 and we would need one mislynch to win the game. I would tell Vivax in our QT to make everyone massclaim and vote at the last second --> kill someone during the night --> win. Vivax' power works so that the hosts DO NOT CLARIFY i am in the game, which is proven by the thread. Even if you argue "Vivax does stupid things as mafia", i don't do stupid things as mafia.

And that's why Vivax is town aswell. Which also automatically makes me town.

Vivax thinks DYH could be mafia but i heavily disagree. I only wanted him to confirm his actions (or why he did them) and it makes sense from townie perspective. Saying "he killed two townies" is retarded because you FUCKING ALL thought both of bf/VA are scum. DYH is also a good scumplayer and i don't really think he would have fucked up with the potato early game as mafia. It's kinda sad those are the most townie things i can find in thread, but what can you do...

Koshi's cases are not based on anything and if he does not cooperate we should lynch him. I don't care. His cases are "well this guy (GB) got basically modconfirmed so i don't believe it and he is scum" and "Vivax did a townie thing so he could be mafia" AFTER saying he will "not vote for ANYONE except for DYH on D2". The whole thing doesn't make any sense from any perspective.

I don't know what Onegu is doing, well probably because he is not doing anything.

DYH is never ever mafia with Onegu, even if i am wrong on him --> so therefore if there is 2 mafia left in the game (i don't even believe that there is), Koshi has to be scum.

The best course of action is to massclaim (except for GB and me). I can claim if you guys insist, but i will do that the last, and GB will not claim in any case. Vivax has already claimed. So, go. Please.

And do not fucking take the items before them being discussed. It's anti-town. And will get you lynched.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 03 2016 22:27 GMT

#373

On February 04 2016 07:17 Vivax wrote:
And since you used your power you can claim your full role anyway

Oh yeah i forgot what makes DYH town.
It's his power.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

February 03 2016 22:35 GMT

#374

So, rayn can't be mafia unless vivax is mafia. Vivax is only mafia if he is a recruitment role, and in a strange twist, has to recruit from outside the starting playerlist.

I'm leaning towards believing you both.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

February 03 2016 22:41 GMT

#375

I don't see a scenario where Koshi isn't Mafia

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 03 2016 22:46 GMT

#376

Onegu if you are town please claim. Your role and actions throughout the game.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 03 2016 22:55 GMT

#377

I would rather be sure before committing to lynching anyone.
It's the best play for Onegu and Koshi to claim.
It's the best play noone takes the item in case one spawns, before we talk about it. Just look at what happened on D1 when people were just being dumb...