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On February 15 2016 08:35 keanuisgod wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 08:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 15 2016 08:32 keanuisgod wrote: Because it was a "lurker lynch" on someone who hasn't posted in 50 hours The case against him had nothing to do with the fact that he was a lurker d2. IMO it was weaker because of it. I already mentioned how Valdi "not scumhunting" wasn't that much of an indicator when few people were actually scumhunting at that point
He was active and not scumhunting, which makes him scummier than people who were inactive and not scumhunting.
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Last game, shapelog, aka keanu, IMO played one of the best scumgames I've ever seen. Keep that in mind.
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On February 15 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Last game, shapelog, aka keanu, IMO played one of the best scumgames I've ever seen. Keep that in mind.
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On February 15 2016 08:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 08:35 keanuisgod wrote:On February 15 2016 08:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 15 2016 08:32 keanuisgod wrote: Because it was a "lurker lynch" on someone who hasn't posted in 50 hours The case against him had nothing to do with the fact that he was a lurker d2. IMO it was weaker because of it. I already mentioned how Valdi "not scumhunting" wasn't that much of an indicator when few people were actually scumhunting at that point He was active and not scumhunting, which makes him scummier than people who were inactive and not scumhunting.
Perhaps, but not enough for me to be sure he was scum.
On February 15 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Last game, shapelog, aka keanu, IMO played one of the best scumgames I've ever seen. Keep that in mind.
I don't think it's fair for you to base your possible scumread on me on this kind of meta and smurfhunting.
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Anyways, right now I think Warty is the remaining scum. I don't really buy the "In the first 12 hours I was really into the game having fun, but then I suddenly got work and decided to actively post that I'm not reading filters nor the thread and don't give a shit" excuse. Like, being heavily active on (early) D1 but declining activity and "care" for the game as it goes on is something I've only seen scum do, and "ragequitting" townies do. Warty definitely doesn't fall in the 2nd category. If we also go by the "being active and not scumhunting" metric, he's #1 in that aspect
Garga's attitude on D2 felt townie, specially his gradual increase in suspicion on me (I understand the "chainsaw defense" thing and waffle on Warty and how that could have been seen by a town Gargy, specially if Warty is scum).
robik is townier I guess because Warty is more likely scum, because this would be one hell of a bus if not, because he seemed to make sense after getting off my back, and he shows he cares about the game (the most out of the people in question above at least). His suspicion on me I think makes sense if he wasn't part of the thread and didn't have any back-and-forth with me. Some of my posts, standing alone without any context may scream "lol scum", but if you are in the thread interacting with me I think I can prove my towniness enough. After interacting with me robik changed his mind ala saitama, so that makes me feel better about him.
NNN is the "default townie" so far and leading force against Valdi since N1, so yeah no suspicions there.
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On February 15 2016 13:12 keanuisgod wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 08:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 15 2016 08:35 keanuisgod wrote:On February 15 2016 08:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 15 2016 08:32 keanuisgod wrote: Because it was a "lurker lynch" on someone who hasn't posted in 50 hours The case against him had nothing to do with the fact that he was a lurker d2. IMO it was weaker because of it. I already mentioned how Valdi "not scumhunting" wasn't that much of an indicator when few people were actually scumhunting at that point He was active and not scumhunting, which makes him scummier than people who were inactive and not scumhunting. Perhaps, but not enough for me to be sure he was scum. Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Last game, shapelog, aka keanu, IMO played one of the best scumgames I've ever seen. Keep that in mind. I don't think it's fair for you to base your possible scumread on me on this kind of meta and smurfhunting.
OK, you weren't sure he was scum. You were more sure of Warty being scum?
And why isn't it fair? It's not fair for you as scum you mean?
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On February 15 2016 13:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 13:12 keanuisgod wrote:On February 15 2016 08:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 15 2016 08:35 keanuisgod wrote:On February 15 2016 08:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 15 2016 08:32 keanuisgod wrote: Because it was a "lurker lynch" on someone who hasn't posted in 50 hours The case against him had nothing to do with the fact that he was a lurker d2. IMO it was weaker because of it. I already mentioned how Valdi "not scumhunting" wasn't that much of an indicator when few people were actually scumhunting at that point He was active and not scumhunting, which makes him scummier than people who were inactive and not scumhunting. Perhaps, but not enough for me to be sure he was scum. On February 15 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Last game, shapelog, aka keanu, IMO played one of the best scumgames I've ever seen. Keep that in mind. I don't think it's fair for you to base your possible scumread on me on this kind of meta and smurfhunting. OK, you weren't sure he was scum. You were more sure of Warty being scum?
At the point where I nearly panicked near the deadline yes. Up until like 1h before deadline I wasn't sure anybody was scum yet (couldn't finish rereading the thread either)
And why isn't it fair? It's not fair for you as scum you mean?
It's not fair as town for you to read me as scum based on smurfhunting and meta in the way you posted. I thought you took the previous hint I mentioned to robik at some point
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EBWOP: It's not fair (for me as town) for you to read me as scum based on smurfhunting and meta in the way you posted
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On February 15 2016 13:23 keanuisgod wrote: It's not fair as town for you to read me as scum based on smurfhunting and meta in the way you posted. I thought you took the previous hint I mentioned to robik at some point wanna quote it? or help me find it in some way?
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On February 13 2016 10:30 keanuisgod wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 10:15 Iwasrobik wrote:On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote: Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads") And this post, which call kush scum without calling him scum for an extremely bad reason. What makes you believe I implied kush was scum? I implied kush's smurfhunting abilities were bad Might as well come forth with that, in the sense that I don't want NNN to believe I'm 100% someone and then make decisions off me based on that when it (may) not be true at all. Hope hosts don't smite me (perhaps)
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oh you are claiming not shapelog then.. I really don't know who you could be? Someone who spams a lot... umm fuck your Disinformation? probably? Godammit. Smurf games are so anti town.
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I suggest you don't even try figuring it out.
For you see, I'm a newbie that hasn't played games since 2013 ...
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Yeah it is presumptuous of me smurf hunt. You don't realize how much you rely on meta until you don't have it.
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On February 15 2016 13:36 keanuisgod wrote: I suggest you don't even try figuring it out.
For you see, I'm a newbie that hasn't played games since 2013 ...
It's weird for you to say that. Because your case on Warty seems to center on your own vast experience with scum behavior.
On February 15 2016 13:16 keanuisgod wrote: Like, being heavily active on (early) D1 but declining activity and "care" for the game as it goes on is something I've only seen scum do, and "ragequitting" townies do. Warty definitely doesn't fall in the 2nd category.
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how am i supposed to know that lol.. I get it now because that's the lie LS told.
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Sorry my fault, forgot to use this to indicate it was a joke:
![[image loading]](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/smurfsfanon/images/8/8a/Papa_Smurf_Laughing.png/revision/latest?cb=20120721122804)
Anyways, off to watch The Walking Dead
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So let's get back to this interrogation. Keanu, to me it looks like your reason for suspecting Warty is the same reason you refused to suspect Valdi. In fact, you admit using the same metric:
If we also go by the "being active and not scumhunting" metric, he's #1 in that aspect
Your reason paraphrased: Warty started out with lots of activity and it diminished as the game continued.
My defense of Warty: The only time when Warty can be considered active is very early game, in his back and forth with me. Early game activity is a an entirely different beast than later activity. Early game activity is based on in the moment interactions, when later activity is based on reading the thread and filters. Early game activity is talking. Later activity is reading. So it makes sense to me that Warty can't be bothered to read the thread closely, but he has no problem having an early game shit fest with me.
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Damn the soap opera with zombies pulled you away from me.
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On February 15 2016 13:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:So let's get back to this interrogation. Keanu, to me it looks like your reason for suspecting Warty is the same reason you refused to suspect Valdi. In fact, you admit using the same metric: Show nested quote +If we also go by the "being active and not scumhunting" metric, he's #1 in that aspect
Your reason paraphrased: Warty started out with lots of activity and it diminished as the game continued. My defense of Warty: The only time when Warty can be considered active is very early game, in his back and forth with me. Early game activity is a an entirely different beast than later activity. Early game activity is based on in the moment interactions, when later activity is based on reading the thread and filters. Early game activity is talking. Later activity is reading. So it makes sense to me that Warty can't be bothered to read the thread closely, but he has no problem having an early game shit fest with me.
The difference is Valdi was totally AFK (or faked being so apparently), but Warty was indeed posting in the thread throughout late-D1 onwards.
Valdi made it appear like he was into the game and shit but just didn't post anything because of some OOG stuff that didn't allow him to even be here (dunno how much of this is true now). Warty was here, but his care for the game and activity diminished for no discernible reason if he's town.
So it makes sense to me that Warty can't be bothered to read the thread closely
To me it doesn't. I can certainly feel Warty genuinely doesn't care much about the game (and it's not faking it). If he's scum he just doesn't give a fuck and knows he can keep this up apparently. If he's town then I can't understand not trying to care a little bit, when he's not being pushed/bullied/whatever by anyone, the game is very small to read, and he did show signs of fun and care in early D1.
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