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On January 22 2016 23:22 Rels wrote:
It's a pleasure to see my name in that list but I don't deserve it compared to the others. I'm a good scum but as town I often fail to separate logical mistakes and scum mindset.
Rayn does that all the time
I couldn't rank players by performance. I care so little through sheer narcissism to see how well one does to the other.
I can just say the undeniable indisputable good and often excellents are:
Marv
Foolishness
Palmar
Blazinghand (more due to the sheer excellence of the more excellent performances giving him honorable mention- he has had bads)
Ace
Ver
Hapahauli
The usually excellent but sometimes bad are:
Well, BH
Artanis[XP]
Incognito
Imperfection
Yamato77
raynpelikoneet
Holyflare
Half the sky
Rsoultin
VisceraEyes
Geript
Kitaman27
Chezinu
Hurricane Sponge
The could be good but usually meh include:
Me
Kush
Grackaroni
Oatsmaster
Onegu
Sicklucker
The rest I have insufficient experience to truly gauge (this is not a ranking, see Marv and foolishness above palmar and BH and hapa) or have been forgotten by the careless eye of hijole
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On January 22 2016 22:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 22:18 justanothertownie wrote:
lol :D
That's not even what I am getting at - I do not like to judge myself. But who knows maybe I would be annoyed if I wasn't in such a good mood right now.
I just think the choice of players and the ordering from 6-10 is pretty random in general. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/slkX2qW.jpg?1)
On January 22 2016 22:33 Palmar wrote:
I think he's played? he's at least top 12 voice mafia player, maybe barely missing the top 10
Hehe, even a master troll like you won't annoy me today :D
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On January 22 2016 23:57 Rels wrote:
I wanna place JAT somewhere too but the guy is always in the obs QT. p:
Yeah, because in the last 6 months I had 0 time to play mafia.
My top 5 would be something like this:
Palmar
HF
Rayn
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Marv
Artanis
and then the rest where the ordering becomes difficult
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JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did
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On January 23 2016 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did
Didn't include JAT because not many games and the games he has played he hasn't done well in statistically. Lynched or shot in each scumgame and left alive pretty long in his towngames, though this is only from looking at the database. I don't remember much of JAT's games this year other than him agreeing with me a lot in Imperial 
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On January 23 2016 02:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did Didn't include JAT because not many games and the games he has played he hasn't done well in statistically. Lynched or shot in each scumgame and left alive pretty long in his towngames, though this is only from looking at the database. I don't remember much of JAT's games this year other than him agreeing with me a lot in Imperial
oO
I got nightkilled in every single towngame except for the one that ended prematurely due to a modkill where scum was just about to shoot me. I was lynched as mafia once because my teammates both bussed me and cced my fakeclaim and the time I was shot we had already conceded and I got shot for trolling rsoultin.
I mean you can put whoever you want on your list but if you go for those criteria there are a few people on there who did worse ^^
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Not many games is kinda true though if you don't count the 2 smurf ones in which mafia shot me n1 each time.
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On January 23 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 02:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 23 2016 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did Didn't include JAT because not many games and the games he has played he hasn't done well in statistically. Lynched or shot in each scumgame and left alive pretty long in his towngames, though this is only from looking at the database. I don't remember much of JAT's games this year other than him agreeing with me a lot in Imperial oO I got nightkilled in every single towngame except for the one that ended prematurely due to a modkill where scum was just about to shoot me. I was lynched as mafia once because my teammates both bussed me and cced my fakeclaim and the time I was shot we had already conceded and I got shot for trolling rsoultin. I mean you can put whoever you want on your list but if you go for those criteria there are a few people on there who did worse ^^
I did say that I only looked through the database at the results and stuff for you  Not getting shot N1 a single time as town, shameful display.
On January 23 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Not many games is kinda true though if you don't count the 2 smurf ones in which mafia shot me n1 each time.
Yeah, I didn't actually see those
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On January 23 2016 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 23 2016 02:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 23 2016 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did Didn't include JAT because not many games and the games he has played he hasn't done well in statistically. Lynched or shot in each scumgame and left alive pretty long in his towngames, though this is only from looking at the database. I don't remember much of JAT's games this year other than him agreeing with me a lot in Imperial oO I got nightkilled in every single towngame except for the one that ended prematurely due to a modkill where scum was just about to shoot me. I was lynched as mafia once because my teammates both bussed me and cced my fakeclaim and the time I was shot we had already conceded and I got shot for trolling rsoultin. I mean you can put whoever you want on your list but if you go for those criteria there are a few people on there who did worse ^^ I did say that I only looked through the database at the results and stuff for you Not getting shot N1 a single time as town, shameful display. Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Not many games is kinda true though if you don't count the 2 smurf ones in which mafia shot me n1 each time. Yeah, I didn't actually see those
Ippo and one of the gaidens (?). Mafia actually shot me multiple times in both of those.
And lol to this criterium when you yourself did not shoot me in imperial only because you were medic dodging on Eden :p
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On January 23 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 23 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 23 2016 02:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 23 2016 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did Didn't include JAT because not many games and the games he has played he hasn't done well in statistically. Lynched or shot in each scumgame and left alive pretty long in his towngames, though this is only from looking at the database. I don't remember much of JAT's games this year other than him agreeing with me a lot in Imperial oO I got nightkilled in every single towngame except for the one that ended prematurely due to a modkill where scum was just about to shoot me. I was lynched as mafia once because my teammates both bussed me and cced my fakeclaim and the time I was shot we had already conceded and I got shot for trolling rsoultin. I mean you can put whoever you want on your list but if you go for those criteria there are a few people on there who did worse ^^ I did say that I only looked through the database at the results and stuff for you Not getting shot N1 a single time as town, shameful display. On January 23 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Not many games is kinda true though if you don't count the 2 smurf ones in which mafia shot me n1 each time. Yeah, I didn't actually see those Ippo and one of the gaidens (?). Mafia actually shot me multiple times in both of those.
You made the crucial mistake of not actually dying when you get shot though.
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On January 23 2016 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On January 23 2016 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 23 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 23 2016 02:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 23 2016 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT not even in HM seems criminal to me unless he also disappeared for the entire second half of 2015 like I did Didn't include JAT because not many games and the games he has played he hasn't done well in statistically. Lynched or shot in each scumgame and left alive pretty long in his towngames, though this is only from looking at the database. I don't remember much of JAT's games this year other than him agreeing with me a lot in Imperial oO I got nightkilled in every single towngame except for the one that ended prematurely due to a modkill where scum was just about to shoot me. I was lynched as mafia once because my teammates both bussed me and cced my fakeclaim and the time I was shot we had already conceded and I got shot for trolling rsoultin. I mean you can put whoever you want on your list but if you go for those criteria there are a few people on there who did worse ^^ I did say that I only looked through the database at the results and stuff for you Not getting shot N1 a single time as town, shameful display. On January 23 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Not many games is kinda true though if you don't count the 2 smurf ones in which mafia shot me n1 each time. Yeah, I didn't actually see those Ippo and one of the gaidens (?). Mafia actually shot me multiple times in both of those. You made the crucial mistake of not actually dying when you get shot though.
Can't argue with that.
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I think it depends
Like JAT is an obvious top 6 player I think most times, but i'm not sure hes played enough if its quarterly rankings
I would probably agree with the top 10, I think rels is still a bit early to put in but I can't super argue with it.
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my main comment on these rankings is that i think town play is being weighed far more heavily than scum play.
personally i would pull rels and NM off the list for lack of games and information as both alignments. that's not really their fault and i don't doubt them as players, it is simply hard to give someone an honest evaluation when your sample size is 1 or 0 (also having a sample size of 1 or 0 makes you fairly impervious to meta which is heavily used).
i would also pull myself and rsoul off the list because i personally believe we are opposite sides of the same coin, being that we are incredibly talented at 1 alignment (me mafia, her town) which leaves much to be desired from the other.
some scums that i am happy to see on my team that i think are undervalued here: GB, SL, VE, OWS, kush (esp after seeing personality mafia)
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+ Show Spoiler +SL is pretty under rated regardless
Break in case of emergency.
But yeah its a bit to town sided
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I mean the fact I was put in a braket with four policy lyches is fun but I never cared what people think
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For real though SL might have some weak moments sometimes as town but hes generally reversed my opinon of hi splay the past few games hes played.
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On January 23 2016 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
I mean the fact I was put in a braket with four policy lyches is fun but I never cared what people think
if i was mafia, and you were town, i would kill you before some people on this top 10 list; juzzayin <3 bbgurl
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On January 23 2016 08:52 Damdred wrote:
For real though SL might have some weak moments sometimes as town but hes generally reversed my opinon of hi splay the past few games hes played.
honestly lol i've said this very thing to lex several times since you came back, sl
also, yeah, i'm flattered but there are more than 10 players on this site who are better than i am
Edit: riiiitoky i think you're undervaluing your town play though ^^ your scum play may be better but you're definitely one of my favorite people to roll town with, even if we always seem to end up suspecting each other lol
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On January 23 2016 08:52 Damdred wrote:
For real though SL might have some weak moments sometimes as town but hes generally reversed my opinon of hi splay the past few games hes played.
I agree.
I think the mafia alignment IS heavily weighed in some cases. Artanis makes top 5 because of it (imperial), ritoky makes the list because of it.
I don't really get the comment about rsoultins scum game either since it is pretty good and probably better than her town game.
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