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PepperMintTea
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PepperMintTea
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I hope the game starts correctly tomorrow | ||
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PepperMintTea
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I have to do some work but I will read through later and provide some input. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched On January 27 2016 07:48 Shapelog wrote: But any ways Mexican Alien is prob. town for trying to figure out what we should do. Even when he does not know what to do, he still trys to be helpful. Considering MexicanAlien spent several posts calling Shapelog suspicous and didn't strike me as overly helpful it seems bizarre that Shapelog could come to this conclusion. But based on my observation of how Shapelog acts it seems to be a very weak throwaway read with no substance. Ignoring the read therefore, I typically see the excessive posting of nonsense as a town trait where he isn't being too careful about anything. So I would have Shapelog leaning town for now. For MexicanAlien I didn't see him being helpful as Shapelog called it, in fact I was rather put off by the way he phrased this observation On January 27 2016 07:43 _MexicanAlien wrote: Why does shapelog call his own play dumb? Shouldn't he be trying to play well? "Improve D1"? It is difficult to say why this bugged me, perhaps because it is phrased as a question. However I think it is unlikely that a new player who rolled mafia would come out very early with somewhat weak accusations. So I would have MexicanAlien leaning town aswell. Onegu seems keen to help people out as a veteran player. I hope this continues and develops into more substantial observations. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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No because I feel that as a Newbie I would be susceptible to a mafia veteran being nice and helpful to get a town read. Therefore I am reserving my judgement until he gives more meaningful contribution and was subtly influencing him to do as such. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 27 2016 08:38 nooniansoong wrote: This seems contradictory. Nervous people don't spout whatever comes into their head. Many people talk too much or over explain to counter feeling nervous or anxious. It is a fairly common issue. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 27 2016 08:44 nooniansoong wrote: How do you know this when you have no experience to back it up? This being your first game of forum mafia and all. I have played mafia before; online versions and in real life. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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PepperMintTea
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To quickly answer a question I saw has come up a few times. Generally of the form "why does nervousness make him town?" I don't know the exact reason. Maybe he is nervous about being mis-lynched, maybe he is anxious to get town read by other players. The point being it is easy to be nervous or anxious if you are a new player. Whatever the reason, I viewed his haphazard posting as a result of over excitement and nerves and that this is typically town. As to nooniansoong's point about me leaving the thread, I have to say that after my first observations I waited in the thread for probably 30 minutes or more and happily answered his questions. After it seemed no more questions were forthcoming I went to sleep as I get up early each day. It seems an unfair statement that I didn't linger because I was not wanting to be exposed when I happily answered his questions. If I find any other questions in my read through I will happily answer them but I hope this deals with the confusion people are suffering people. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 27 2016 09:24 Alur wrote: Oh and a question for PepperMinTea: You went out of your way to defend Shapelog, and you were somewhat spooked by MexicanAliens accusations towards Shapelog for vague reasons - but you townread him because "mafia aren't spooky this fast". You also townread Onegu. Do you have any scumreads? I'm a little sad that I didn't ask this question before he left. Ended up spending quite a bit of time on my entrypost. Sorry you are mistaken and I didn't townread Onegu, I actually got asked this very same question earlier. I didn't have any scum reads when you asked this Shapelog #278 There are several inaccuracies in your post, accidental i'm sure but you need to calm down and read things thoroughly before you start throwing out wild accusations. The posts you quoted by _MexicanAlien could come from either alignment. Specifically This shows he is reading the thread and is trying to actively solve the game. Patterns are usally the first thing the brain notices when Analyzing things. you don't even know what the pattern is yet? That is why I found your town read farfetched but it fits in with your over excited play. You go on to say that I "don't town read _MexicanAlien" when that is simply false. if you read the post I say that his post, "initially bugged me but I do think he is leaning town because it is unlikely a mafia noobie would come out early with accusations against a weak player." You then mention something about how I dropped the overexcited part. Nooniansoong specifically asked me about you being nervous and I answered about you being nervious. In reality the vote on me is rather poor. @Onegu Then you should know new mafia in fourm are much less likely to post than town. Paranoia is a thing. Totally agree that is why I thought shapelog was town, not sure what point you are trying to make. That seems to clear up a lot of the nonsense aimed at me. I will give my thoughts about other players soon. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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Prior to that I think darthfoley is my strongest town read so far. Specifically I liked this question On January 27 2016 11:48 darthfoley wrote: Tumblewood, can you explain why you're town reading Trfel? He has four one liners so far. Which of them makes him lean town for you? A keen observation and an important question. I would agree overall with his conclusion of Shapelog darth I would like to know what you think about Alur. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 27 2016 17:20 _MexicanAlien wrote: I am starting to fully understand the townie reads on Shapelog. Good reasoning and critical thinking @Eden1892 Onegu has seemed slightly scummy, and he's definitely not a cooperative player. There's still something sketchy about PepperMintTea in my mind though. Can you explain what Onegu did that makes him scummy? On January 27 2016 17:32 Onegu wrote: What are you talking about? You havent clearly read my big post have you. Tea I talk about alot when quoting kushs posts saying kush makes many good points and would sheep him. And I talk about my Tea read is effecting my Shape read. How the fuck did I imply mex was scum? @Onegu I'm rather curious how you have come to this conclusion, I think at one point you had me down as "scummy as hell". The scum read is based on nooniansong's scum read of me. I hope that has been cleared up for you. But outside of this you defended me twice. Some people play the game by finding town reads and then doing POE from there this is NAI. The question is fine. Bleh. Can be caused by being busy... I would be interested how having, one fairly weak scum accusation, and two reasons you stated are not good reasons. I have come out as scummy as hell. It seems inconsistent. Perhaps you have misunderstood something I wrote. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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if you have any questions then ask them now, otherwise I will get to them this evening. | ||
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On January 27 2016 21:14 nooniansoong wrote: Pmt scum reads and why? I have some players I want to investigate further before I give any true scum reads | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote: But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck. On January 27 2016 07:08 Onegu wrote: Like talking about someones meta before they even post is just so random. Like it was a joke at first then it went into real meta talk. I don't think either of these statements are unfair. Onegu later qualifies the reason he doesn't have a clear town read as "could be mafia talking just to talk" Now whilst this does fly in the face of something he said to me. Then you should know new mafia in fourm are much less likely to post than town. Paranoia is a thing. If that is a possible interpretation of shapes posting, I don't see why Onegu should have to have Shape as clear 100% town. It is possible Shape could be talking just to talk sure. I personally believe shape is likely town based on his hyper activity but not all people have the same perspective. I did look over Eden's argument and i'm not convinced. I do have other questions for Onegu but I think some people are getting carried away. | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 27 2016 22:04 JesusIncarnate wrote: Good day lads. I already hate shapelog. I think they're scum. Quite clear they are trying to make themselves seem incredibly towny. No fear of putting a target on their back either. I mean, lol making a potential setup list is pointless. I'm a bit confused why not being scared and trying to be towny makes you scum. Can you expand on this. quite the twist on peppers post. I think they were trying to spout "helpful" stuff (ie: the potential rolelists) I don't understand what you are saying here can you explain this. i also like alur, there reads are pretty similar to mine. tumblewood has kind of similar reads to mine, but he is null on pepper. So what the fuck are you doing boy? Which reads specifically did you like and why The reads on darth and trefl seem particularly lazy so perhaps you can add to those. Onegu, scummy to me. Posting long essays mean nothing to me. ok if a long essay means "nothing" why does that make onegu scummy. what has he done that makes him scum to you? | ||
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PepperMintTea
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On January 28 2016 01:10 _MexicanAlien wrote: This may be late in coming but I think it deserves some thought. I find it interesting how PMT rephrases this question. She says "why does nervousness make him town?", when more along the lines of what was asked is "why would nervousness make him seem town?" Or "why do you think being nervous makes him town?" It looks like PMT took it for granted that people thought Shapelog is town from that point on. She goes on to say "I don't know the exact reason." This "reason" is an opinion, not a fact! Shouldn't PMT be aware as to her own reasons for town reading Shapelog? He is obviously not nervous about being mis-lynched, and not stressing about trying to prove his townieness. PMT ends with the conclusion that Shapelog's "haphazardous posting is a result of his overexitment and nerves and that this is typically town." THIS IS RIDICULOUS. Since when is overexitement and nerves a symptom of being townie ?? PepperMintTea is Mafia! I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form. On January 27 2016 09:17 nooniansoong wrote: Why would townies be nervous? On January 27 2016 13:08 _MexicanAlien wrote: For PepperMintTea: You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited? I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous. Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting. It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you. I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion. As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town. hence my conclusion. If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you. | ||
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