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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:04 GMT
#281
On January 27 2016 11:01 nooniansoong wrote:
pepperminttea has a zero percent chance of people male imo

Lol did i miss something?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:08 GMT
#284
Yo Kuragaro whats up?
About to check Darthfy's Filter.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:23 GMT
#287
Eh Things that stands out to me:
On January 27 2016 07:06 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:03 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck.

What exactly is weird about anything Shapelog did? Specifics please.


The infamous Eden. Thankfully in this game I can answer your queries without having to worry about scum slipping

I can't explain why i feel weird about this post. It seems NAI but i feel like it could be posted by scum. And it is a joke respond to a Eden who was trying to find out what was going on (which what happen to him btw?) feels out of place a bit.
On January 27 2016 07:19 darthfoley wrote:
You mean, discuss what the blue roles would do IF they in fact are in the setup?

Discussing blue roles in depth too early is dangerous for the town. That information is really valuable for mafia, ESPECIALLY because their setup is the same for each of the 4 possibilities.


Bolded is really not valuable info for mafia IMO, as knowing what is on their team doesn't really = what blue roles are in the game. However, this post does have Pro-townie vibes from it. I can't recall when he said it, but I feel if he was scum he would of pushed the conversation a bit further.
Also if he was scum he would cut out the bottom half and left the Question.
On January 27 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
Fact is, we won't have much to go on until the rest of the game starts interacting. Each day is 2 days so we have plenty of time lol

He is chilled with this post. This suggests that he isn't worried what he looks like. He is more concern about analyzing content. So +1 to him.

Overall, I feel confident giving him a town lean as I go to bed. His filter will prob. the first I check after I re read to see how he goes on later in the day.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#288
On January 27 2016 11:17 Trfel wrote:
Shapelog:

Initially, how serious did you think I was with my first post?
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 06:00 Trfel wrote:
Onegu is mafia because he's too excited about the game to be town. One down

Not Serious at all.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#291
On January 27 2016 11:28 darthfoley wrote:
Just FYI Shapelog, it was a little joke to Eden because as Artanis after my last game with Eden, Eden "had me by the balls" early on reading me correctly as scum.

Wait did I /obs that Game? I can even remember anymore.
Well I am about to hit the can, So Chiao.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:33 GMT
#293
On January 27 2016 11:30 Tumblewood wrote:
Read over the thread, and these are my reads so far:

Town: (none yet)
Leaning Town: Alur, Trfel
Null: PepperMintTea, nooniansong, Onegu
Leaning Scum: darthfoley, _MexicanAlien
Scum: Shapelog

My reasoning on Shapelog:

Shapelog has acted generally like a newbie scum player all game. He started the game off with about five jokes and no content. Given that this is day 1, that's not too important. I'm not sure how to feel on the weird read toward nooniansong, because it doesn't necessarily feel scummy or townie, just poorly informed. But the posts that really strike me are:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote:
On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck.

I am not trying to read him lol.
I am just saying there is something he does and as the day(s) goes on I will look for it, if it is absent, I will comment on it. Unless your scum team kills me, in which case i can just use it later on .

and
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:55 Shapelog wrote:
On January 27 2016 07:48 _MexicanAlien wrote:
So first shapelog suggests talking about blue roles, then he lists the reason for each blue role to not need help.
Very good reasons.

Yeah i was revising the logic on it after Deathfy posted about it.
Also I am always Sus. on my D1's, Both as Blue and Vt due to my reactive, blah blah blah trolling playstyle
Yet to roll mafia sadly, thought this would be the one =(.

In both of them, he mentions something about not being scum. Why would a townie ever do that? Why would anyone ever do that? "Unless your scum team kills me," and, "Yet to roll mafia sadly," are things normal townies don't just drop. It just screams to me, "Oh boy, what a shame I'm not mafia!" Also, "I am always Sus. on my D1's" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I haven't played with Shapelog before.

You are not prepare for my mast---
Oh look Candy!
Also I am da master of self meta :D
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 02:34 GMT
#294
Eh I read your scum reasoning on me tomorrow morning instead of skimming it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 05:50 GMT
#324
Yo I can't sleep so i going to waste my life here.

I have vividly read the thread and people are questioning my playstyle. I am a trollish player D1, as the Shapelog beast needs content. In my past experiences, lack of content = mafia win. I generally get better towards late game and near the dead line at D1. I am also great at scum hunting when i get drunk.
So basically I use it to generate content early game. My humor will keep going through the night.

I also like to point out something:
On January 27 2016 07:13 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
On January 27 2016 07:07 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Alright enough about meta reads
we should come up with a strategy


What do you suggest?

I Know your not talking to me, but i suggest we start organizing the town/Find a direction to go into for lynch and D2 (and n1 actions i guess). A course I am not sure how to do it, since half of the players have not posted and it is only a hour into the game.

One the talk about the blue actions came from me saying "I guess we could do this blah blah blah" I was more worried/wanting to do the first think listed which is Organizing the town/Find a direction to go into for lynch and D2. I just like to point out the fact that i didn't go "well we should organizing the blue roles tonight!"
Two @Mexicano
yeah don't expect me to defend myself often. I am a submissive person in general. Also Why do i need to defend my self heavily? Sure above I just defended myself, but in it I am not saying your wrong I am just saying that isn't all that was said.
Unless I in Danger of costing town a mislynch then there isn't a need for me to heavily defend myself. I also want to learn how to do D1 better and other than a coach I have to rely on the game.
Three:
Prince LoneMeow has not posted the voting thread
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 05:55 GMT
#325
Is my Trolling really this godly at causing mass chaos lol?
I mean how does strong townies (from what i seen from other games) like Trifel doesn't have a read on me. Unbelievable.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 05:59 GMT
#328
On January 27 2016 13:19 Trfel wrote:
Kuragari42, thanks for answering my questions. I think I understand where you're coming from. I was questioning a logic thing, but I don't think that it is important given your answers.

If anyone has any questions for me, please feel free to ask. I have a suspicion or two that I don't want to share quite yet, it will be clear soon enough. Also, I am currently townreading both Shapelog and PepperMintTea, but I don't want to give them defenses in case they are mafia. I'm very willing to discuss other players

But Why am I town when you just said a hour or so before this that i was unreadable? Then you don't post anything about your read? Really?
Also can you generally tell me why PeppermintTea is town? To me shes mafia for a reason i already explain earlier.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:01 GMT
#329
On January 27 2016 13:29 _MexicanAlien wrote:
[Q]On January 27 2016 08:49 Alur wrote:

2. Slight townread on _MexicanAlien.
He seems to have a genuine interest in solving the game. Didn't know that mafia knows the setup (could be WIFOM I guess, but whatevs).

Talk about other players.

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Is anyone else here seeing a pattern?


Not sure what you're referring to, very curious to hear what you've noticed.



I actually did know that Mafia knew the setup, but I forgot when I posted about giving away info.

I thought the pattern I was referring to seemed clear. Shapelog thought of something, harped on that topic, when others said it was counterproductive he suddenly switched sides and heeled put down his own suggestion.

For the most part, Shapelog seems to be too eager too agree with whatever anyone proposes. Also looks too helpful to me, ignores his own defense, sutly defending me with cheap townie reads.[/QUOTE]
So the fact that i town read you because you are solving the game in a manner in which a townie would do, and backing those up with quotes of showing what i meant is cheap?
What about it is cheap to you?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:08 GMT
#331
On January 27 2016 15:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 14:55 Shapelog wrote:
Is my Trolling really this godly at causing mass chaos lol?
I mean how does strong townies (from what i seen from other games) like Trifel doesn't have a read on me. Unbelievable.
I feel that it's pretty obvious that you are town. And thanks, but I'm not a very strong town player. Eden1892 is an extremely capable town player, though. I never said that you were unreadable, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. I acknowledged that other people say that you are unreadable, though I don't feel the same way.

@Shapelog, there is no voting thread for this game.

@darthfoley (and all):
I think that Kuragari42 is town. There are a few tonal indicators in his filter that make me think this. One example is that he is very open by saying that his reads didn't logically make sense, while adjusting his reads as he receives new information. This is not the natural approach for mafia to take.

I was very confident in _MexicanAlien being town, and while I'm a bit less confident now, I do think he is town.

Give me a bit about PepperMintTea.

For me Not being able to be read = unreadable. And don't doubt yourself, you seem like a person who can lead a town in the right direction.

Also I have sent Prince LoneMeow a Pm letting him know.

What has happen to make Mexican Alien go down on the town list in your mind? If anything he is prob. the hardest working one out of everyone right now. Was there a post or train of thought i missed?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:16 GMT
#335
Also since Darthfy post just made me thought of this.
People who have posted and peace:
Eden: Posted once asking about Specifics about my "plan" post.
PepperMintTea: Posted a small WoT saying how my town read on Mexican wasn't strong and how i was town. She did give warning she was going to leave thou.
JesusIncate: No posts so far.
Kush: Comes in asking questions. After PepperMintTea posts votes her. Explained it a bit.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:17 GMT
#336
On January 27 2016 15:11 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, sorry, I'm not going to give a detailed explanation of my read on PepperMintTea right now because if I'm wrong, that would be a free defense. Which is a pretty stupid thing to do.

I feel that PepperMintTea's reads show critical thinking and an attempt to solve the game, making me think that PepperMintTea is town. I won't elaborate at this time.


Fair enough.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:18 GMT
#338
On January 27 2016 15:14 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 10:58 Shapelog wrote:
Yo USP is the bomb. Got me my motherboard a day early :D

I've read the TR on me. I think it is the worse possible town read on me period.
Let me explain.
On January 27 2016 08:30 PepperMintTea wrote:
A fairly interesting beginning. I wanted to share some of my observations

Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched

He/she calls my town lean on Mexican Alien farfetch. I town lean that came from:
On January 27 2016 07:07 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Alright enough about meta reads
we should come up with a strategy

On January 27 2016 07:17 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I have no freakin clue what to do.
We need information.

There is no way that a mafia make the first post and then makes the second. He could of easily pushed a mafia agenda right here. Hell he could of taken Thread control here forcing townies to listen to a strategy that really doesn't have any merit to it (too early in the game IMO).
Also the "we need infomation" also seems townie to me (though i will admit it can defiantly be NAI).
On January 27 2016 07:31 _MexicanAlien wrote:
no blue talk it is useless (to townies)

Tell me what is the purpose of saying this as mafia? Like at all why would he want the blue talk to end? Sure, maybe he wanted cred for it. But this is a very pro-townie statement, In fact, mafia benefits NONE from it.
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Is anyone else here seeing a pattern?

This shows he is reading the thread and is trying to actively solve the game. Patterns are usally the first thing the brain notices when Analyzing things.

So My town read on Mexican is good. The fact he is solving the game should be a clear indication.
But here is why you don't town read him:
On January 27 2016 07:43 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Why does shapelog call his own play dumb? Shouldn't he be trying to play well? "Improve D1"?

Ok, First off I could see where you come from. Maybe (Just maybe) you think he is trying to draw attention to me, and possibly forcing a mislynch on me.
Ok lets ponder this:
Sure, i'll admit that I am prob. the best mislynch target for mafia at this point. I mean god, look at my posts. A lot of things that can be used for a case. And sure, while I did tried to help town, i ended up failing epicly. Also who would trust me? honestly who?
But the thing is, the above post from him doesn't push me. Sure, it could be taken as that. But that is more of a playstyle question then "I think this guy could be scum b/c of X" statement.
And lets also ponder the fact you can be mafia.
You come into the thread "lolly lolly, I am peppermint" read the posts and you get to the end. Who stands out? Prob. me and mexcian. You see that everyone is sus. of me. I can totaly see you town reading me (since you know I am town b/c your mafia) so when i get lynch (or if i get lynched) you get cred for it. You also benift if mexican gets killed because he is a strong player.
So no matter what you win either way.

Finally, lets discus your town read on me:
Initial: "hes overexcited and nervous"
On January 27 2016 08:41 PepperMintTea wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:38 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:30 PepperMintTea wrote:
Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched


This seems contradictory. Nervous people don't spout whatever comes into their head.


Many people talk too much or over explain to counter feeling nervous or anxious. It is a fairly common issue.

So you drop the overexcited part? Ok, I will admit, I do have anxintry disorder. But, I have not felt nervous or overexcited about this at all. sure, i am happy that i am playing, but i am not like OMG YES YES YES.

What also is funny is that you decide is that my town lean was weak, BUT your town read was not. I mean at least mine I could prove and it made sense. All yours is on is tone, period.

Honestlly, Right now, you have a good chance of being scum.
##VoteepperMintTea



This is why I hate reading your posts...

Big post incoming from me with stream of thoughts.

Uh Oh.....I am going to use my magic 8 ball.
Magic 8 ball is he going to call me scum?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:21 GMT
#339
On January 27 2016 15:17 Trfel wrote:
I mean, this game won't use a voting thread XD Votes are made in this thread.

Initially, _MexicanAlien seemed very eager to solve the game, but then has stagnated a bit. It's seemed like he's focused on his read on Shapelog, but has felt a bit less interactive. I still feel confident that _MexicanAlien is town, my statement just shows how convinced I initially was.

I really need to go to bed Onegu, once you catch up, I'd really appreciate an answer to my question to you in this post. Thanks!

How is trying to read the person everyone has mixed emotion on a bad thing? I guess I could see what you mean by less interactive.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:27 GMT
#340
Great now I am tired enough to go to bed but I am awaiting Onegu's WoT to see what it is about and to see if my Magic 8 ball predication are correct.

At least this WoT will prob. help me read Onegu.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:34 GMT
#343
On January 27 2016 15:31 Onegu wrote:
You are wrong shape.

HOLY SHIT THE EIGHT BALL WAS RIGHT!!!!!!
HE DIDN'T SCUM ME!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:36 GMT
#344
But anyways how did my post had anything to do with this?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
January 27 2016 06:39 GMT
#347
Also Because I never got back to Tumble.
1. I did not read Kush. I said I have a device that helps me read kush. I also said that it doesn't mean he is auto town.
2. I have a mafia fetish, deal with it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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