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On January 27 2016 22:39 Alur wrote: Oh and darth, you seem more invested now, so that's definitely something. But this series of events seems strange to me: (This was in reply to Tumblewood when he upgraded Onegu to slight townread, and downgraded Trfel to null) Then Eden presents Onegu as his top suspect. Largely based on the same material that you townread Onegu on. Then you go on to say: Surely if you thought Onegu was town, you'd discuss the matter with Eden rather than just lauding his post. I for one think it's entirely plausible that Onegu is just asshole town. You look a little flip-floppy here. 1. I said Onegu read town to me at the time, because when I posted that, he hadn't posted much, but it seemed focused on not talking about pointless bullshit. 2. Surely if I thought Onegu was town, I would discuss it with Eden, which is specifically why I posted: On January 27 2016 16:43 darthfoley wrote: Oh FYI, I haven't read through Onegu's filter so I don't know about Eden's scum read yet. I addressed this very point. It was 2AM and Eden was going to bed soon, so I wanted to wait to address it today. 3. I townread Eden more for his town read of Shapelog rather than his scum read of Onegu. Eden, i've been trying to make exactly the point you just made about Shapelog. The scum Kush meta read thing just makes no sense. I also liked Kush's interaction with Pepperminttea. He is playing a lot more substantively this game imo 4. If you had actually read my filter thoroughly, the three previous points would be rather straightforward. I wasn't flip-floppy. I agree that it's WIFOM to talk about your entry post, but I don't have much of a reason to TR you right now. | ||
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On January 28 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote: Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted) Yeah Totally Brah. No offesne brah, but if I were your mafia teammate I would probably ask you to think up a case against me, simply because it probably wouldn't stick. Similar to what MexicanAlien said. | ||
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Town: Eden Shapelog MexicanAlien Scum/scum lean: Alur - refer back to my filter interactions with him. I'm not a fan of his playstyle at all so far. Tumblewood - his second meaningful post is a bunch of null reads, and a bunch of reads that scream "i'm just trying to look like i'm contributing" JesusIncarnate - first meanginful post was lazy and very shallow Need to reread filters on Peppermint, Trfel and Onegu | ||
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My scum leans are not listed in order | ||
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On January 28 2016 02:19 nooniansoong wrote: darth, my old scumbro, you forgot to townread me. I'm not town reading you anytime soon as punishment for giving up on our game ya big dum dum | ||
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 I disagree with people townreading Kuragari, if you look at his filter (which is short, so this is easy to verify), notice how his posts are based on reading into if people have referenced their alignment. Which is not terrible in and of itself, but it was something that Tumblewood introduced originally. It seems improbable, that a town player who reads up on the entire thread, ends up not really giving any meaningful original reads or opinions, and just piggybacks on Tumblewoods "allignment refence" tool. | ||
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On January 28 2016 02:26 Kuragari42 wrote: @PMT Can I get more insight into your darthy read? I find his posts semi-suspicious yet you seem to highly town read him. May I ask why you find my posts semi-suspicious? Why do you describe them as "semi-suspicious"? | ||
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In terms of mafia reads: I still scum read Tumblewood, and after reading Alur's argument about Kuragari (and looking at his filter), I scum read him too. Kuragari hasn't provided anything original the entire game, besides saying that I "seem to change my opinions a lot" which is pretty much false. The only substantial read I have changed on is Alur... which I have explained. Kuragari also hasn't posted any reads besides that shallow one on me at the beginning, in which he admits his selective logic is shitty. Think he could be trying to stay on the radar by not throwing out anyone's names. I'm going to read through Onegu and Trfel filters now... will post my thoughts afterwards. | ||
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1) I agree that I am surprised that he doesn't town read Shapelog, but he didn't bandwagon him either so I tend to believe that he's honestly reading him null at this point, and would rather focus on other people more likely to be scum. 2) I can see why a veteran player wouldn't want to explain stuff to noobs. After all, he could be explaining stuff to potential mafia. Basically the same reason Shapelog shouldn't have talked about his Kush meta. Plus, us noobs have coaches so I can understand why a veteran cba to explain trivial stuff like don't talk about blue roles. I don't think Onegu is mafia and I think it's a mistake to lynch him D1. I agree with Onegu that Tumblewood is perhaps the most scummy person to be somewhat active so far. Right now i'm considering voting Tumblewood or Kuragari. (For the record so Kuragari doesn't try to argue something stupid about me changing reads, I still heavily town read Eden) | ||
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On January 28 2016 05:38 Kuragari42 wrote: @darth You changed on me, Alur, and Onegu. Imo it's not the substantial reads that matter the most, it's the slight reads. You also agreed with/praised Eden without reading Onegu's filter. How were you supposed to know that Eden's read wasn't just an attempt to throw suspicion on an experienced player? You used meta for your TR on Eden when you said it would be a smart move for mafia to start setting up meta shit. Those combined with your alignment stressing are what made me find you somewhat suspicious. Okay either you're not reading the thread or you're scum. I didn't change my opinion on you lol. On January 27 2016 14:42 darthfoley wrote: I don't have strong feelings yet one way or the other. I like that he posted about how I did the same thing as Shapelog, but wasn't getting scrutiny for it. Seems like a town thing to do, rather than pile on the already made target. Although I think Shapelog has been way more reliant on the "oops i'm noob" posts compared to me, so i'm a little puzzled why those posts wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb, but mine would. Not sure I like the "he's a troll so I have no read on him, even though he has the longest filter so far" argument. Mixed feelings Mixed feelings = null read Alur read i've already explained why I have changed my mind. I literally haven't changed my mind on Onegu at all. I TR him early and he's still on my town lean pile. As I have already explained, I DID NOT town read Eden for his Onegu case. I TR him because of his Shapelog analysis + other reads. + Show Spoiler + On January 28 2016 01:55 darthfoley wrote: 1. I said Onegu read town to me at the time, because when I posted that, he hadn't posted much, but it seemed focused on not talking about pointless bullshit. 2. Surely if I thought Onegu was town, I would discuss it with Eden, which is specifically why I posted: I addressed this very point. It was 2AM and Eden was going to bed soon, so I wanted to wait to address it today. 3. I townread Eden more for his town read of Shapelog rather than his scum read of Onegu. 4. If you had actually read my filter thoroughly, the three previous points would be rather straightforward. I wasn't flip-floppy. I agree that it's WIFOM to talk about your entry post, but I don't have much of a reason to TR you right now. So yea, your post is almost 93% bullshit and I'm getting closer and closer to voting for you. At least you've been more active than Tumblewood | ||
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Right now the only people I'm comfortable voting for are Tumblewood and Kuragari | ||
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##Vote: Kuragari42 | ||
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Trfel reminds me of Eden in the last game I played, except Eden's questioning was a lot more substantive imo. I need to go through Trfel's filter again, but I am warming to the idea of him possibly being Mafia. | ||
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On January 27 2016 21:17 _MexicanAlien wrote: Onegu as an experienced veteran seems to really back me up when it comes to scumming Shapelog. Onegu as a townie veteran would probably know better, and not encourage interpreting bad play as scummy. Onegu as a Mafia veteran would have wanted to bandwagon Shapelog. Also, Onegu hardly puts forward any original arguments for Shapelog's guilt, instead he just reposts others'. This would allow him to not seem like scum if Shapelog was lynched and flipped Townie. Could you explain what you mean by experienced veteran vs. townie veteran? Isn't a veteran by definition experienced? I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make | ||
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