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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 01:38 PepperMintTea wrote: People who say "Occam's razor" trying to be intelligent often achieve the opposite. in my experience lots of haphazrdous posting is That is irrelevant banter. My point still stands. If you have trouble understanding the reference, go to Wikipedia. Your experience is worth squat here. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote: Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted) Yeah Totally Brah. Dude no one trusts what you say. If anything, your illogical case against her actually helped her. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 01:54 Shapelog wrote: Dude no one trusts what you say. If anything, your illogical case against her actually helped her. I don't care if no one trusts what I say. All i am focus on is finding mafia and getting a direction figured out for d2 (which i can only do after lynch) But How did my case help her. By saying all she has been doing is posing defenses and nothing else?[/QUOTE] If you can only do this after lynch then it's not relevant now. What happened to being "naturally submissive" and not defending yourself? Your case against PMT helped her since you have no cred, therefore people are more likely to dismiss what you say to be false/stupid. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Only if you are willing. I just want motives to be clearer. Top three suspects in order. If you want to include reasoning feel free. Thank you | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
2. PepperMintTea 3. Onegu | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Shapelog was spouting some seriously scummy stuff in the early stages of the game. While you might say it's 'too scummy to be scum', you have to remember he's a newbie. So he is prone to make the 'obvious' mistakes as Mafia. Also, looking stupid is a bonus for him if he is scum. Let's pretend for a second that he is confirmed townie. Wouldn't he try to amend his bad rep from early on by trying to keep in-game focus, stop spamming, and find scum? You have to admit a good deal of his posts are SPAM, and what little input he does give seems hard on other people's reads. Or just lucky questioning. So why is Shapelog not trying to improve his gameplay, like he said he wanted to? | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 09:33 darthfoley wrote: Curious whether your mafia reads have changed at all since posting? Pepperminttea is in my town pile right now-- how confident are you in this list? I'm surprised that both Shapelog and MexicanAlien have been inactive the past 5-6 hours. Especially given the burst in activity from both in the first day of D1. Hey darthfoley, I have sleeping for the last 7 hours or so. There has been a lot more upheaval in opinions and reads and votes than I expected, so it's going to take me some time to try to analyze these new posts. From quickly skimming over the last few hours, Shapelog still seems a bit scummy to me, maybe because his almost lack of logic when it comes to countering scumreads against him. And most everyone seems content to defend him. May or may not be a bad thing. As for PepperMintTea, I am still waiting for an answer to my question. That is, paraphrasing, Why did you ignore the most likely explanation for Shapelog's nervousness/over posting? I'm suspicious of PMT because she seems to ask a lot of questions, disappear, refuse to add anything until questions are answered, gives very illogical rebuffs to questions asked of her. Onegu, I need to do some thinking. I'm not sure about him right now. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 13:22 darthfoley wrote: I just want to point out how terrible JesusIncarnate's filter is right now. ........ 2. He disagrees with both on darthfoley... ... Isn't reactionary generally used to describe scum play? ....... I think JesusIncarnate is mafia My favorite thing about this read is the apparent lack of bias darthfoley shows. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
7. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
I'd also like to point out that while darthfoley has changed his vote a couple times, he continues to clarify his reads and doesn't contradict himself. If he's mafia, he's extremely good and may God save my neck. darthfoley is Vanilla Townie | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:07 darthfoley wrote: Can it actually be that simple Eden? Wouldn't a mafia coach specifically coach against some of the stuff (e.g. noob card, "he's either town or mafia" reads, etc.) that Ikidomari posted? darthfoley let's just wait and see what Ikidomari has to say for himself. Then decide from there. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
I'm probably the weakest player in the game, so feel free to lynch me for that reason,... Falls back on "I'm the weakest player" when there are better candidates for that role (Shapelog....ect). He's trying to guilt us into not lynching him! This would be a horrible strategy for a townie, a last resort as Mafia! | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:19 Tumblewood wrote: My reads on Onegu and Trfel haven't changed, but you can add JesusIncarnate and Ikidomari to that list. JesusIncarnate is scummy IMO for being inactive and unhelpful. Ikidomari... I would have probably townread, but Eden has scumreading powers I am not yet blessed with, and I can't help but agree with her. On the subject of Onegu and Trfel, I think it would still make sense if they were scum together, but it's getting hard to picture Onegu as scum now (even without him saying anything) when there are four players I believe are acting scummier. This is a weird game. darthfoley asks Tumbleweed for his views on Onegu and Trfel, Tumbleweed says his reads haven't changed, but then goes on to say his read on Onegu is getting weaker. Tumble joins the Jesus wagon on grounds of "inactive and unhelpful", but he doesn't accuse others for any of these reasons, even though in his mind it should be solid ground. He implies his TR on Ikidomari, but then jumps on Ikidomari's wagon too! And he bases this on the fact that Eden1892 had better scumreading 'powers' than him. While this may be true, it is hardly reason for wagoning Ikidomari. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:31 Ikidomari wrote: I agree, using the "I'm a noob" excuse is cheap, and should be disregarded. Lynch me for being useless. Again with the guilting. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote: I should clarify. Order of events is 1. I start writing my first long post 2. darth writes his case against jesus 3. I read darth's case [bold] after [/bold] writing my part on jesus 4. I post 5. I realize I have to vote 6. I vote for my least favorite person in the game so far- Jesus has contributed very little, his attitude annoys me, other players have a case against him too. that last point about other players having a case against him is important to me, I don't want to mis-lynch someone, in the off chance that it's a close vote, and my vote tips the scales. Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that. If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. This is WIFOM | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
1. darthfoley 2. Eden1892 3. Undecided | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:49 Ikidomari wrote: ..... the difference is that town has no motivation to gain towncred, town has motivation to solve the game. mafia need to gain towncred twice as much as town do. at least in my very limited understanding, that's the way I see it. One of the best ways to help solve the game is to establish oneself as townie, therefore narrowing down the potential mafia candidates. Townies also want towncred because then people will be more likely to listen to their reads, and therefore saving time for the rest of the townies. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:46 Ikidomari wrote: what does WIFOM mean? and NAI for that matter. Wine In Front Of Me. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:55 Eden1892 wrote: I am dumb, this isn't going anywhere. This guy's probably not mafia. ##UNVOTE .... But I believe you sincerely believe what you say, and if I believe this, then your explanation makes sense to me from your POV. Eden1892, I noticed something that slightly bothered me. You point out a ton of logical mistakes and backdoors in Ikidomari's long post. You show amazement at the apparent scumcatch oh my goodness its actual literal christmasland and lock for scum And you even find scummy motives in Ikidomari's wagonjump on Jesusincarnate. like he literal called Travel actual scum and Jesus town... Then when wagons are showing up to be Trfel(actual scum) or Jesus (unhelpful town) drops a vote to push the wagon on his town read ahead of his scum read. You seem to want other people to vote for Ikidomari and seem slightly annoyed that people aren't joining the Ikiwagon. Everyone stop trying to lynch the bait and lynch the mafia instead But then out of nowhere you start falling for Ikidomari's **** sigh hitting me right in the feels with "keep me alive so I can learn" Note- that last quote may have been sarcasm, I don't know You ask Ikidomari what changed his mind about JesusIncarnate (changed from 'unhelpful town' to scum) He says it was Jesus' attitude Sure. It was his attidue. I admit I am biased because I dislike the way he types, but I couldn't stop thinking about motivations as to why he'd be so arrogant, and how that arrogance could be used to his advantage. This sounds good. But I went back and looked at his initial read of Jesus. ....He's coming off as extremely arrogant, enough so that it has got to be some sort of act. ...my read is that jesus is an unhelpful town... You see? Ikidomari claims his read on JesusIncarnate changed while he was still writing his post, but the reason he gave for the read change is one of the original reasons for his original read! Ikidomari didn't change his read. He wanted to bandwagon JesusIncarnate to take the pressure of of himself. Eden1892, I want to know why specifically you believe Ikidomari's reasoning. What made you let Ikidomari off the hook so easily? | ||
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