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On January 29 2016 04:37 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 04:33 Kuragari42 wrote:
Tumblewood - Several of this guy's posts make little sense to me but the people that were attacking/defending (and the way they were doing it) him make him a low SR.
So he's not as scummy because scummy people were attacking him? But if I recall it was mainly trfel who you have as a townread... and eden was defending him who you have as a scumread. So that makes no sense.
Attacks and Defends are not necessary Mafia and Town.
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On January 29 2016 04:39 _MexicanAlien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 04:33 Kuragari42 wrote:
READS:
Slight Town:
PeppermintTea - While I am not in complete agreement with everything they have said/done, I have gotten a pretty steady townie vibe from them.
Trofl - While originally his questions bothered me and made me lean slightly scum, I now see that each of them had a point.
Shapelog - His reads/refutations are sort of out-of-the-box yet still have sense and I am in agreement with a lot of his logic.
darthfoley - I was suspicious of his early game but I did not scum-read him, I just wasn't content with the strong town-reads on him. Quite a few of his posts mid-game were pretty good. I'd say if this list was ordered he would be pretty low TR.
Slight Scum:
Eden - His posts are not aligned with how I expect a experienced town player to post. Pretty low SR.
Tumblewood - Several of this guy's posts make little sense to me but the people that were attacking/defending (and the way they were doing it) him make him a low SR.
So what you're saying is, you thought all of your TRs were suspicious but now they're not. And your SR logic doesn't make sense (to me). Seems like you are not committing. Unless you have another post yet to come.
I find almost everyone suspicious. Also, I did not say that for Shape/PMT.
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On January 29 2016 05:03 _MexicanAlien wrote:
OK Kuragari.
Roleclaim in bold please.
Quickly. Now
I did. I am vanilla town.
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On January 29 2016 05:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 04:33 Kuragari42 wrote:
READS:
Slight Town:
PeppermintTea - While I am not in complete agreement with everything they have said/done, I have gotten a pretty steady townie vibe from them.
Trofl - While originally his questions bothered me and made me lean slightly scum, I now see that each of them had a point.
Shapelog - His reads/refutations are sort of out-of-the-box yet still have sense and I am in agreement with a lot of his logic.
darthfoley - I was suspicious of his early game but I did not scum-read him, I just wasn't content with the strong town-reads on him. Quite a few of his posts mid-game were pretty good. I'd say if this list was ordered he would be pretty low TR.
Slight Scum:
Eden - His posts are not aligned with how I expect a experienced town player to post. Pretty low SR.
Tumblewood - Several of this guy's posts make little sense to me but the people that were attacking/defending (and the way they were doing it) him make him a low SR.
Okay, so... You were suspicious of me early game for valid reasons, but you did not scum read me. Quite a few of my posts mid-game were pretty good, but if you ordered your list, I would be a low TR
Pretty much sums it up.
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On January 29 2016 05:14 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 05:05 Eden1892 wrote:
I guess we can lynch this guy for his reads.
If this guy flips town then slap all the dummies voting him because of a "slip" that for sure wasn't one (probably)
But those reads make no sense with the game state. His scum reads are inconsistent as a team (me and Iki are never ever partners) and the reasoning on them is shoddy and just borrowed from what other people are saying. So are the town reads. The whole thing is just right in line with popular town sentiments with nothing firm said either way (it's almost all leans and nothing committed).
I like Iki the best because I'm pretty confident in my initial impression of his posting. But this Kura guy is a fine lynch too based on those reads. If that guy flips town, there's no probably about it, it just can't a scum slip at that point. Or do you mean something else? It's a little unclear what the (probably) refers to. It's odd that I'm his biggest scumread, but he has 0 words to go along with it. Especially when he's on the verge of death.
You aren't my biggest scum-read. My leans are just the category they are leaning out of null into.
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On January 29 2016 05:18 Alur wrote:Surprised you wouldn't vote for Jesus, since it seems like the most viable strategy for you to not get lynched. Since he's your primary competition, lynchwise.
A townie lynch v. a townie lynch..
Jesus claims that he is some super-mafia-guru so I figure out of the two of us, town would benefit more from him being alive.
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On January 29 2016 05:22 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 05:18 Alur wrote:On January 29 2016 05:12 Kuragari42 wrote:
##Vote:Tumblewood
Surprised you wouldn't vote for Jesus, since it seems like the most viable strategy for you to not get lynched. Since he's your primary competition, lynchwise. Sigh don't tell him this I was looking forward to using this data point without him being conscious of t and changing his behavior
Lol, I doubt you could have gotten the wagon to switch onto him.
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On January 29 2016 05:30 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 05:27 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 29 2016 05:18 Alur wrote:On January 29 2016 05:12 Kuragari42 wrote:
##Vote:Tumblewood
Surprised you wouldn't vote for Jesus, since it seems like the most viable strategy for you to not get lynched. Since he's your primary competition, lynchwise. A townie lynch v. a townie lynch.. Jesus claims that he is some super-mafia-guru so I figure out of the two of us, town would benefit more from him being alive. Hold up you just said Jesus was a complete unknown to you. Now you're saying he's town? And not just that but that because he says he's good at mafia (with zero display of that in game to back it up), you would rather die yourself than lynch him even though you're confirmed town to yourself???
As a null, I choose to use innocent until proven guilty for him.
Have I given proof that I am a good mafia player? lol
I'd rather let him prove himself than for me to continue on this same track.
I am not confirmed town to everyone else so it doesn't really matter. Besides, this is a team game, it doesn't effect me if I die.
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If Jesus doesn't vote will he be modkilled? or replaced?
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On January 29 2016 05:41 Eden1892 wrote:
The presumption of innocence in a court of law is to prevent government overreach and abuse of power.
No such analogue exists in mafia. We operate on probabilities and are solely guided by the truth -- we have no ulterior motivations to punish people for its own sake.
There is no reason to presume innocence by default in this game. Citing that phrase is tantamount to handwaving needing a reason to call someone town.
Probability: I gave 3 scum reads. Probability is town in his favor.
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Not to mention I don't care for the wagon on him. Gives me more reason to think town.
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