EPTI consider this improbably. In any case I am completely willing to lynch a player who slips like that when I already have a scumread on him.
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I consider this improbably. In any case I am completely willing to lynch a player who slips like that when I already have a scumread on him. | ||
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On January 28 2016 09:20 Alur wrote: Two questions for noon: Can you explain or elaborate on why Trfel "looks solid to you"? The post's in your filter that relate to Trfel go like this: Into And. | ||
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On January 29 2016 01:49 nooniansoong wrote: no. like i said before. get a majority of votes on either me or trfel then I might explain. What? There is arguably some logic to not be willing to share scumreads. But why are you incapable of elaborating on a townread? Like I really don't see how it could hurt town. If you genuinely believe someone is town, you have a vested interest in convincing town of your read. The most legitimate way of doing this is by giving reasons, which as a bonus reveals how you're thinking about the game. You being incapable of providing reasons for townreading a player that many people find suspicious, makes sense if you're both mafia. You seem opposed to increasing the sum of knowledge publicly available to the town. | ||
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On January 29 2016 02:06 Kuragari42 wrote: Goof on my part. I just remember someone saying something about NK's being weird due to a doc. Who said this and where? | ||
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Remember were disregarding that it's probably less likely for the doc to slip, and that several people are reading you as scum already. | ||
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On January 29 2016 01:52 nooniansoong wrote: scumlist for brags 3. JesusIncarnate 4. Alur 10. Onegu 13. Shapelog You're saying I opened up by bussing my fellow scum, while continuously being critical of his playstyle. While also slightly leaning scum on Onegu, and stating that only 1 of Onegu and Trfel could be mafia. So even if I were to help getting Trfel lynched, it would put immense pressure on my scummate. | ||
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Although the point regarding how he only asked when it was brought up against him, suggests that he didn't care about understanding the thread that much while reading through it. | ||
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On January 29 2016 02:40 Kuragari42 wrote: Yeah, my bad. Still no clue about the rule. The rule we're referencing is the rule about how the game is played on 1 out of 4 possible setups. Explained here by the host: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix#2 | ||
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On January 29 2016 02:35 nooniansoong wrote: I think kura townslipped. Aka dumbtell I assume you have no reasons or that you're not willing to share them. | ||
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On January 29 2016 02:50 Shapelog wrote: If he is Doc: well he just outed himself If he is Vt and there is a Doc and he outs: We lose a Doc for a vt, Horrible If he Is Scum, claims, and get CCed: We lose a doc for a scum, which is O.K. but considering how every successful heal adds a +1 to the needed mislynch counter He's not gonna claim doc if he's VT. Please Kura don't claim doc if you're VT. If we trade we also get to talk to a confirmed town player before he get's lynched. I think I'm ok with trading doctor for a scum, especially when there's a 66% chance of it being a special mafia, and seeing that doctor is at risk of getting lynched anyways. | ||
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On January 29 2016 02:56 nooniansoong wrote: If he were scum he would have known that there isn't definitely a doc. Instead he read something and misinterpreted it to mean there was a doc On January 19 2016 00:28 LoneMeow wrote: The mafia will be informed as to which setup is chosen, but the town will not! If he's scum, and there is a doc, he knows that there is definitely a doc. Are you trying to say that a mafia player would have studied the rules more closely? | ||
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On January 29 2016 03:01 Shapelog wrote: Did Kush just Dumbtell/Scum slip talking about Kura Scumslip/Dumbtell? Nah. If he said "there definitely isn't a doc" it would be a scumslip. "there isn't definitely a doc" is a true statement. | ||
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On January 29 2016 03:06 Trfel wrote: I mean, mechanically speaking: The best play is to simply not talk about this any more and just not lynch Kuragari42. The reason for this is that time will make this more clear than any amount of analysis, since in time more information about power roles is revealed. Further, talking about this more only gives mafia additional information. Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation, which is also possible, I suppose. He hasn't said anything that has made me want to not lynch him. He is still the best lynch in my opinion. He failed to contribute with original opinions, his filter is short, and he scumslipped. But I would also not be completely opposed to lynching you, and maybe Ikidomari. Mafia will only get additional information by people claiming, simply talking about Kuragari42 as a lynch option because of a possible scumslip (among other things), doesn't give mafia any info. If you don't want to lynch Kura, who do you suggest we lynch? Or what do you want to talk about? | ||
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On January 29 2016 03:27 Shapelog wrote: Like we have a guy who In my mind scumslip or dumbtelled Doc. Vs A guy who came in with reads that contradicted each other (and bascailly everything in Eden case). And was given outs from Eden and Darth. Darth did explain why he did though, and make a good point. Might of been scum trying to save scum mate. The thing I don't like about Eden's cases, is how much conviction he has behind some of his reads when he introduces them. I also don't think Ikidokaris reads were contradictory, just vague or poorly explained. #368: "- Shapelog is obviously town, and the first thing I want to do when I get the motivation to read this game in detail (which will be tomorrow, hold me to this and don't let me be lazy) is to read the sequence of people scumreading him early while it was the "in" read to give, because I'm almost positive scum were involved in that." Sidenote: I guess we forgot to hold him his promise and let him be lazy. #671: "This Ikidomari guy is basically lock scum, we can lynch him too." It at least seems plausible that Ikidomaris post was the result of a nervous first time mafia player, being late to the thread. Which in turn makes Eden's case seems slightly opportunistic. Alas, it could very well be that Eden is just a more confident player than I am. | ||
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Why wouldn't you be happy with Ikidomari? | ||
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On January 29 2016 04:04 Shapelog wrote: Me? Because he had so many escape paths, Practically had a "Poor me, I fucked up and i should die" attitude And Gave up instead of really trying to explain reads or push his scum reads. (Though, as a newbie, he might overprotect himself because he is being scum read as town. I did it my first game, but i was blue) It was directed to PMT, my bad for being unclear. I am aware of your stance on Ikidomari. However, if you're still unsure who to lynch, I think theres a higher chance of Kuragari42 being mafia, than Ikidomari. Or phrased differently, I think its more likely that Ikidomari is a panicked newbie town, than Kuragari being a town who's playing scummy, has a short filter, and is doing dumbtells. On that note. Kuragari you are currently slated for being lynched. If nothing else, you must have some reads or an opinion of the current state of the game. If you're actually being incorrectly lynched right now, a town player should be able to gather some information based on how the bandwagon against you is developing I can't justify not lynching him if he doesn't give a defense. | ||
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