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On January 21 2016 22:21 Rels wrote:
Palmar, kita is never mafia with the amount of organizing he's done (tier list + completing your plan). And if he is, he's getting killed anyway.
Will read Vivax filter then see what you wrote.
Hello Rels
You are wrong.
In addition to what I said, there is no way he thinks I'm mafia based on the bullshit case he posted last night. There is literally no way I believe Kita believes his own case.
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Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass.
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On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong.
yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia.
But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor.
I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine.
I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that.
I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia
I think his filter is too short.
I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia.
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On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong.
We'll see 
Let's find out!
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I'm just gonna write off disfo as town for effort.
gj!
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I want to lynch Kita over Vivax btw. I think I've made that clear.
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On January 21 2016 23:19 GlowingBear wrote:
You guys are discussing role and mechanics hoping this will help you find mafia when it helps nothing with the game. 99% of the time town tried to solve the game with mechanics, they lose
Can we stop talking about roles and let people do what they want with what they got and stick to actually playing the game how it is intended?
He calmly says ignoring the fact that people have been scumhunting and not talking about roles for several pages now.
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On January 21 2016 23:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 23:49 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 23:19 GlowingBear wrote:
You guys are discussing role and mechanics hoping this will help you find mafia when it helps nothing with the game. 99% of the time town tried to solve the game with mechanics, they lose
Can we stop talking about roles and let people do what they want with what they got and stick to actually playing the game how it is intended? He calmly says ignoring the fact that people have been scumhunting and not talking about roles for several pages now. Gr8 PLAYZ
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On January 21 2016 23:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Town reads:
kitaman27 - <3
Rels - general activity and strong reads
Cephiro - dreamflower claim, will sort itself out later
Superbia - planning stuff, looking to take advantage of setup, advancing discussion. That post about how he was excited about how it looked like town was already winning seemed really townie.
The Shining - Initially had him as one of my mafia reads, but his more recent stuff definitely makes me think he is town. In particular, I though post #1504 looked good on his part.
Probably town:
VayneAuthority - Picks hero and then claims it publicly. As I said earlier, I think mafia hides that info.
Breshke - Holmes likely to sort himself out anyways even if he is mafia
sicklucker - There are a bunch of spots where he seems excited of the prospect of puzzling the setup together
CopCake - She seems like she is in her own little world. Should probably be closer to null but I get the feeling that she is one of those low activity townies at the moment.
Choose 3-4 from this group:
ObiWanShinobi
Koshi
disformation
Keirathi
Onegu
Damdred
Fecalfeast
geript
Mafia reads:
Vivax
GlowingBear
Palmar
AlotSomuch
Tictock (?)
This is where I'm at based on my initial quick glance through the player list after the pick phase. Only went through a couple filters so far. When I'm not so busy at work, I'll take a closer look at the peeps on my mafia list and outline why I think those are the baddies.
Seeing as you're just agreeing with all my reads, why do I not get a "Great activity and strong reads" like Rels?
The patriarchy at work again.
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On January 22 2016 00:06 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 00:01 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 23:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Town reads:
kitaman27 - <3
Rels - general activity and strong reads
Cephiro - dreamflower claim, will sort itself out later
Superbia - planning stuff, looking to take advantage of setup, advancing discussion. That post about how he was excited about how it looked like town was already winning seemed really townie.
The Shining - Initially had him as one of my mafia reads, but his more recent stuff definitely makes me think he is town. In particular, I though post #1504 looked good on his part.
Probably town:
VayneAuthority - Picks hero and then claims it publicly. As I said earlier, I think mafia hides that info.
Breshke - Holmes likely to sort himself out anyways even if he is mafia
sicklucker - There are a bunch of spots where he seems excited of the prospect of puzzling the setup together
CopCake - She seems like she is in her own little world. Should probably be closer to null but I get the feeling that she is one of those low activity townies at the moment.
Choose 3-4 from this group:
ObiWanShinobi
Koshi
disformation
Keirathi
Onegu
Damdred
Fecalfeast
geript
Mafia reads:
Vivax
GlowingBear
Palmar
AlotSomuch
Tictock (?)
This is where I'm at based on my initial quick glance through the player list after the pick phase. Only went through a couple filters so far. When I'm not so busy at work, I'll take a closer look at the peeps on my mafia list and outline why I think those are the baddies. Seeing as you're just agreeing with all my reads, why do I not get a "Great activity and strong reads" like Rels? The patriarchy at work again. Well if we disagree about one read, that doesn't mean we can't be productive when narrowing down the other 7, right? Anything you feel is majorly wrong with that list aside from the Palmar one? Also, I asked that you reply to an earlier post whenever you have the chance. Thank you kindly.
disformation should be a read
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On January 22 2016 00:11 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 00:06 kitaman27 wrote:On January 22 2016 00:01 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 23:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Town reads:
kitaman27 - <3
Rels - general activity and strong reads
Cephiro - dreamflower claim, will sort itself out later
Superbia - planning stuff, looking to take advantage of setup, advancing discussion. That post about how he was excited about how it looked like town was already winning seemed really townie.
The Shining - Initially had him as one of my mafia reads, but his more recent stuff definitely makes me think he is town. In particular, I though post #1504 looked good on his part.
Probably town:
VayneAuthority - Picks hero and then claims it publicly. As I said earlier, I think mafia hides that info.
Breshke - Holmes likely to sort himself out anyways even if he is mafia
sicklucker - There are a bunch of spots where he seems excited of the prospect of puzzling the setup together
CopCake - She seems like she is in her own little world. Should probably be closer to null but I get the feeling that she is one of those low activity townies at the moment.
Choose 3-4 from this group:
ObiWanShinobi
Koshi
disformation
Keirathi
Onegu
Damdred
Fecalfeast
geript
Mafia reads:
Vivax
GlowingBear
Palmar
AlotSomuch
Tictock (?)
This is where I'm at based on my initial quick glance through the player list after the pick phase. Only went through a couple filters so far. When I'm not so busy at work, I'll take a closer look at the peeps on my mafia list and outline why I think those are the baddies. Seeing as you're just agreeing with all my reads, why do I not get a "Great activity and strong reads" like Rels? The patriarchy at work again. Well if we disagree about one read, that doesn't mean we can't be productive when narrowing down the other 7, right? Anything you feel is majorly wrong with that list aside from the Palmar one? Also, I asked that you reply to an earlier post whenever you have the chance. Thank you kindly. ![[image loading]](http://orig02.deviantart.net/31c3/f/2012/223/2/6/bioshock___would_you_kindly__timeline_cover_by_sammzor-d5aryam.jpg) Maybe I should TR Koshi after all. At least he is kinda make me smile. Scum usually doesn't manage that. Still would prefer lyching one of those unsexy filter dudes. + Show Spoiler +inb4 last minute shennanies onto VA Struggling a bit with getting a proper kita read. Will probably eat something first and then come back to that.
Remember that Kita is almost as good as mafia as I am, so high expectations for him.
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On January 22 2016 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 00:15 Palmar wrote:On January 22 2016 00:11 disformation wrote:On January 22 2016 00:06 kitaman27 wrote:On January 22 2016 00:01 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 23:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Town reads:
kitaman27 - <3
Rels - general activity and strong reads
Cephiro - dreamflower claim, will sort itself out later
Superbia - planning stuff, looking to take advantage of setup, advancing discussion. That post about how he was excited about how it looked like town was already winning seemed really townie.
The Shining - Initially had him as one of my mafia reads, but his more recent stuff definitely makes me think he is town. In particular, I though post #1504 looked good on his part.
Probably town:
VayneAuthority - Picks hero and then claims it publicly. As I said earlier, I think mafia hides that info.
Breshke - Holmes likely to sort himself out anyways even if he is mafia
sicklucker - There are a bunch of spots where he seems excited of the prospect of puzzling the setup together
CopCake - She seems like she is in her own little world. Should probably be closer to null but I get the feeling that she is one of those low activity townies at the moment.
Choose 3-4 from this group:
ObiWanShinobi
Koshi
disformation
Keirathi
Onegu
Damdred
Fecalfeast
geript
Mafia reads:
Vivax
GlowingBear
Palmar
AlotSomuch
Tictock (?)
This is where I'm at based on my initial quick glance through the player list after the pick phase. Only went through a couple filters so far. When I'm not so busy at work, I'll take a closer look at the peeps on my mafia list and outline why I think those are the baddies. Seeing as you're just agreeing with all my reads, why do I not get a "Great activity and strong reads" like Rels? The patriarchy at work again. Well if we disagree about one read, that doesn't mean we can't be productive when narrowing down the other 7, right? Anything you feel is majorly wrong with that list aside from the Palmar one? Also, I asked that you reply to an earlier post whenever you have the chance. Thank you kindly. Maybe I should TR Koshi after all. At least he is kinda make me smile. Scum usually doesn't manage that. Still would prefer lyching one of those unsexy filter dudes. + Show Spoiler +inb4 last minute shennanies onto VA Struggling a bit with getting a proper kita read. Will probably eat something first and then come back to that. Remember that Kita is almost as good as mafia as I am, so high expectations for him. Good thing I'm a far superior townie! :D
Nice joke
You want stabbing?
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Morning, I moved my vote to Vivax.
I skimmed the thread on my phone last night, read a few posts. I am essentially okay with Kita's plan of working together to figure out 7 mafia if he is one.
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Hint: I am not angry Onegu, I am realistic.
You are in the slam category. People I don't really read and I don't pretend to be able to figure out the alignment of.
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Actually I just searched my past games for me talking about you. I seem to be possibly taking too pessimistic a view on this.
I guess I have been somewhat pessimistic this game.
I'll read your filter.
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ie: In the past I've actually tried to analyse you, so maybe I can do that.
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At the time I basically agreed with geript's assertion of you trolling in a slightly weird way. Also note that "likely" just means that there is a chance you're mafia. I didn't say "very likely" or "probably". The point is, I planned to give you a role fitting of how I felt about you (could very well be scum, but definitely not a day1/2 lynch unless something changes). That way even if you're mafia your role forces you to be useful.
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What role did you get anyway, because there seem to be no mayor elections?
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Btw I'm too behind to know if there are any people trying to hide their roles, but everyone should know that anecdotal experience tells me people who have refused to claim are much more likely to be mafia than others.
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So, Onegu's filter isn't all that exciting but if I am to draw any, however weak, conclusion from it I'd probably put my money on him being town.
Nothing in his filter sounds fake or disingenuous. This is important because I know that he tends to sound fairly fake as mafia. I'm being sort of generous with this read though, because it's not like he sounds supremely straightforward or anything. I guess it's more of a glass half full approach.
I did like his basically omgus on damdred, along with his willingness to talk to people (he volunteered to be my friend when I asked for one) and to call them out and make casual reads on players (me, koshi, damdred, geript etc).
I wouldn't bet much money on this read, but for now I have absolutely no interest in lynching onegu, and I think it's more likely than not that he's town. But it's weak, mostly due to his lack of content.
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