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On January 21 2016 08:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:On January 21 2016 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe. On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
Kita's additions completely undermine my plan. Who here thinks these three statements could possibly follow a logical sequence from a town Palmar? It's impossible. EBWOP the second quote should be under palmar's name not mine. I think it makes sense from a town perspective to have some people check-pick near end of the list. Assuming they're not all aligned (decent assumption), it puts some pressure on mafia to pick what they're told and not pick some super scummy role. Pick 8, 10, and 15 should not be thrown away simply to verify that a player picked their roles. I suggested they be replaced by three very powerful roles that include watching abilities, parity cop, tracking, and protection. Then Palmar calls me mafia for "undermining his plan". It's so illogical that it's ridiculous.
LOOK AT ME IM A ROCKET MAN GOING INTO SPACE
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I should just stick with my earlier plan of picking puppeteer so I have someone friendly and smart to talk to.
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On January 21 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 08:54 Palmar wrote:
I should just stick with my earlier plan of picking puppeteer so I have someone friendly and smart to talk to. plummer i thought you liked me =[
you're friendly yes.
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Morning, I'm less mad than yesterday.
Thankfully the planning phase is now over. This is a note to future Palmar so I can quote it in other games.
Dear Palmar.
Never, ever, again try to organize and plan TL Mafia towns. It will cause you unbearable pain and you will gain very little from it.
So now, all I have to do is post who I think is mafia and who isn't.
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I just read disformation's filter and I have little idea what his alignment is.
Some times he sounds a bit fake tonally, but he did pick a sweet role for town, and he is actually putting in management work through getting the role list nailed down so meh.
I liked his "trust issues" comment on me, and I didn't mind his early townread on TT.
Then he had some tonally weird things like the lemon-tree comment about TT in his list, which unless that's some kind of an inside joke, it feels like a very weird thing to call people.
I think the conclusion is I have no real interest in lynching him today. I want more hard reads from him though. If his filter had a few decently constructed reads in it I'd feel a lot more comfortable. I think he'd be a pretty good check.
Also his reaction to the scumreads was maybe a bit over the top. Not sure if it's genuine to care so much about a few shitty "maybe scum" reads. Unless he thinks he has played townie enough to warrant a universal townread or something.
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That's a long-winded way of saying he's a null.
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he said he took it koshi pls
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I'm trying to read Kita's filter, but I have the most mafia-tinted glasses possible. Like everything he says sounds like mafia.
I think I'm going insane.
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On January 21 2016 18:14 Koshi wrote:
But I have no scumreads except for Cephiro.
Kita is the hard one
Vivax is the easy one
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On January 21 2016 19:11 geript wrote:
I really dislike the fact that I like Palmar's push. Maybe he's just wrong on Kita/Keir and the plan thing is just useless side stuff.
Hi geript
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And no, I'm not wrong on both of them. There's definitely at least 1 mafia in there 
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I feel very good about relstown now.
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I can do vivax because I already know what I'm going to say
I don't want to do Onegu at all because I usually don't enjoy reading his filters. Alot, maybe later.
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Like Onegu is funny and all, but he's rarely insightful
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There is no meta that matters.
All that matters is that Vivax had no intention
all that matters is he had nothing to say on day 1, yet his only meaningful contribution was to take the piss out of any attempt at organizing. This means he is mafia. Not because only scum would be skeptical of any organization, but because townies would probably be looking for something else to do.
It's the difference in mindset of I'm expecting townies to want to do something, even if it's stupid. Vivax used the planning that was meant to be happening as an excuse to post.
He is always going to be mafia.
There is no meta that matters.
All that matters is that Vivax had no intention
Bold prediction:
Kita and Vivax are in fact scummates. Based on this:
On January 20 2016 20:28 Vivax wrote:
Ofc I stole kita's thunder by picking his number cause I think he's mafia (saying I don't do anything about number claiming is pretty stupid cause giving my opinion on it is already "doing something" and I had good reason not to partake in that plan where mafia has all the numbers nicely presented for their team to coordinate.
On January 20 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote:
I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake.
On January 20 2016 03:36 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 03:15 Palmar wrote:On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Picking 1 1, obviously a lie.
Obviously the truth.
Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. Vivax is mafia. Not simply because he refuses to cooperate but because he refuses to cooperate AND that is everything he brings to the table. Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too. Shows up to complain about something, but doesn't do anything about it.
On January 20 2016 09:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Since this seems to happen every game, making a post game bet with myself that at least two scum buddies picked the same number to try to throw us off :D
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...had no intention of actually doing anything on day 1, yet found a way to post.
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Btw, to strengthen my case against Kita, I want to point this out. These posts are in ORDER and I left NO posts out from Vivax or Kita:
On January 20 2016 00:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Well based on the pick order, you basically have an idea of what every single player picked by day one. Essentially claiming the numbers reduces the odds of overlap, while mafia knows what each other is picking so they can avoid it already. Like a few games ago, like 6 players chose [9] or something stupid like that. What's the disadvantage Vivax?
On January 20 2016 01:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 00:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Well based on the pick order, you basically have an idea of what every single player picked by day one. Essentially claiming the numbers reduces the odds of overlap, while mafia knows what each other is picking so they can avoid it already. Like a few games ago, like 6 players chose [9] or something stupid like that. What's the disadvantage Vivax? You dont know if its truthful what anyone claims and if it is then mafia can pretty much pick the sweet numbers to at least have 1 of their members pick first, I think.
On January 20 2016 03:36 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 03:15 Palmar wrote:On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Picking 1 1, obviously a lie.
Obviously the truth.
Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. Vivax is mafia. Not simply because he refuses to cooperate but because he refuses to cooperate AND that is everything he brings to the table. Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too. Shows up to complain about something, but doesn't do anything about it.
The point here is:
Vivax posts something Kita sees a reason to reply to. Notice however that in Kita's initial reply he doesn't call Vivax mafia at all. Then Vivax responds with basically nothing and some time passes.
I come to the thread and call Vivax mafia and Kita immediately agrees with me, but using the weird phrasing "Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too". However Kita had not bothered to mention this scum read until I started talking about it.
And yet, when he explains the Vivax read (he explains it more later), it is for precisely the reasons that I called Vivax mafia.
Now Kita thinks I'm mafia, so I guess there also exists a scenario where he thinks Vivax and I are both mafia from different families, that is, if he hasn't forgotten about his vivax scumread.
But Kita did two extremely scummy things here:
a) Fail to mention a scumread, yet claim to have already had it, this is despite actually interacting with his scumread.
b) Call me mafia, when his claimed thought process for scumreading Vivax was EXACTLY, like LITERALLY EXACTLY the same as mine, which means he should be thinking that I'm reaching these conclusions naturally.
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If it isn't clear:
I don't believe Kita had the scumread on Vivax until I pointed it out, because it's so simple that he would have mentioned it. I think he just tried to revise history with his "vivax was one of the first I picked out as mafia" line of posting in order to make himself look good.
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