EPTOn January 23 2016 04:33 Onegu wrote:
Never claiming^
Never claiming^
Why?
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On January 23 2016 04:38 Onegu wrote: The only way something happens to onegu tonight is if onegu has a OP role. Third person onegu is best onegu. I'll answer that question for mafia. You don't have an OP role because there are no OP roles left unclaimed. See! Now you don't have to worry about a night hit. I got your back. You understand that SL claimed the busdriver was picked above him right? So surely you understand the reason why we want you to sure your info right? Back to voting vivix, though onegu is worth a night check or shot. | ||
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On January 23 2016 05:14 Breshke wrote: I really wanna apologise for my absence it will improve in around 48 hours though Kita are the reasons you want to lynch vivacious the same as Disfo's case? Basically yeah. | ||
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Can we get a majority please? | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:45 Tictock wrote: Paranoid thought though, what if SL has just been leading us on with the assertion that Artorias got picked to push people to claim? What's the mafia motivation though? A day one lynch on a player that most people thought was scummy already? AlotSomuch uses the kitaman27 role n1 and it returns nobody and then....? | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:46 Damdred wrote: errrr I just got internet back but whats the case on vivax? I was reading his filter and thought he was town Could you give specifics here? | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:10 Damdred wrote: Sure he knows hes a lynch candidate by the time he starts giving reads. He doesn't give a shit about appeasing people it seems without reading context and just gives the reads. You think they are legitimate reads though? He named like 12 people within a span of 15 minutes or something. No way he read the thread or put much thought into them, instead of just shouting stuff out. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:04 Palmar wrote: Kita is still 100% mafia and you're all bad. LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:32 Koshi wrote: Going to rb the vanilla doc. this is how much I love you mafia. pls show some merci. Err, rb onegu? | ||
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Palmar - Picked up on the early post from him that was bad and then Vivax tried to appease him towards end with town read. disfo - Consistent mafia read on vivax during the first 72 hours and had the case which summarized things pretty well sicklucker - It would be really suboptimal to reveal the missing busdriver when Vivax is going to be a prime candidate here. superbia - Suggested we use the gambler plan on Vivax during planning phase and then lists him as priority lynch later I thought about including damdred on the list for essentially hard defending him towards the end. If they were buddies, he almost certainly isn't going to save him with 30 minutes left and he would look worse for doing so. It seems like he might have actually thought Vivax was town. Following players look worse after flip: onegu - He never mentions Vivax all game and then shows up near the end with these posts that soft defend him by suggesting that we're lynching him based on the role, rather than the fact that he was really scummy. On January 23 2016 08:13 Onegu wrote: Is the only reason you guys are not switching off of Vivax because you think you might give him one shot? On January 23 2016 08:16 Onegu wrote: so you dont believe he is lemming? Breshke - If he acknowledges that the disfo case is sufficient to lynch Vivax, why is he asking me about him? It's kind of hard to explain, but if he has already made his mind up, why is he coming to me to validate his read. If I say I'm lynching Vivax for different reasons than disfo, then he vote Vivax. If I say I'm lynching Vivax for the same reasons as disfo, then he votes Vivax. Seems like a buddy attempt or something. On January 23 2016 05:14 Breshke wrote: Kita are the reasons you want to lynch vivacious the same as Disfo's case? On January 23 2016 05:20 Breshke wrote: Works for me copcake - She responds sarcastically when Vivax brings her up, but she doesn't actually share a scum read on Vivax which I felt was strange since it seemed like she was suggesting that. On January 23 2016 01:47 CopCake wrote: Ohhhhhh come and tell me more about it. Excuse me for being busy and skimming most game. On January 23 2016 01:55 CopCake wrote: The only note I have for vivax is that he is secretive with his actions like which numbers he has picked, his role, etc. Alotsomuch - No quotes here but he goes all game without really even mentioning Vivax and then just shows up to vote him without adding anything at all. Seems real complacent. Koshi - Both defends Vivax directly by explaining why he is town and indirectly by strongly pushing the onegu counter-wagon. This would be pretty irrelevant though if onegu is scum too I guess. | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:38 The Shining wrote: Ahhh they have to be on the list first. Do it tomorrow. For the record, you're telling Palmar to shoot me tomorrow? | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:17 Keirathi wrote: Wait wait wait Kita. You've called me mafia multiple time. I semi-defended Vivax, and tried to get people to lynch geript instead. What happened to your scum read on me? Did you just forget about me, or just deice to pick on the low-hanging fruit? Yeah the 4-5 people I listed were the ones that immediately came to mind based on the Vivax interactions towards the end of the day. Looking at your filter now, you had a few bad posts on him and yes I'm still leaning scum on you, though not particularly for the push on geript. I'll put together an updated list for who I think the remaining 7 are right before the day post tomorrow. On January 23 2016 10:17 Keirathi wrote: Also, "Damdred was hard defending Vivax in the last 30 minutes, tempted to say that makes him town" vs "Koshi was hard pushing Onegu the last 30 minutes, he definitely looks worse now". How do both of those together make sense?? I think the difference was that Koshi was aggressively pushing the counter lynch, while damdred seemed more concerned about a mislynch without really doing anything that was going to keep Vivax alive with the gb vote. | ||
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Can I get a nomination too? I never get a nomination. | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: He CLAIMS that he had already picked out Vivax as mafia, so why didn't he do anything about it??? Posting that I agreed with you was me doing something about it. I had the two post exchange with him in the thread and my very next post in the thread was calling him mafia. It's not like I was jumping on the bandwagon right before the deadline, this was a few hours into the game. On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: It's also important to notice that if you go to Kita's filter you can see that while he consistently called Vivax mafia he was never actively trying to lynch him. He wasn't yelling for the lynch in the same way I do. There is no way a town Kita cares so little about the lynch.
But yeah, you know. I didn't care  On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: But more importantly, even if he doesn't agree with me, it doesn't make me mafia. Nothing he says in the first part of the case makes me mafia. It was completely irrelevant whose plan was better (even though mine was). The fact that you exaggerated your read on me saying that I was "undermining" your plan and making your plan "useless" was the thing that made me come to the mafia conclusion. Enforced by the fact that ever time I tried to respond to you, you just called me dumb. On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: Also, just like the Vivax read, I don't feel like he made a strong push to actually lynch me. I didn't think you were a good day one lynch. I said that. I'll probably filter dive you later tonight to evaluate whether I still think you're mafia or if I just let you get under my skin during the planning phase. On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: In fact I don't think Kita has passionately pushed anyone this game. It's just some shitty lists of 3-5 people thrown together as maybe mafia. Well we've had almost identical reads most of the game, so pick one or the other. On January 24 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote: For a long time it felt like his filter was relatively short. It's up to maybe 7 pages now, but it was 5 pages back on day 1. Again, the whole "not invested" thing. Well considering I average around 3-4 pages a cycle most games, it must mean I'm doubly invested! Phew. On January 24 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote: Part 4: Suggestions on how to deal with Kita in the future if I'm dead Personally I prefer a funny gif or pop culture reference. Something like this would do. ![[image loading]](https://media4.giphy.com/media/8mMrUPBFikM8M/200_s.gif) Anyways, I'm just going to keep on trucking. One down, seven to go. | ||
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On January 23 2016 15:55 geript wrote: So Kita do you think I'm scum. I'm curious. You've only had like 2-3 alignment indicative posts so I'm kinda just waiting to hear more from you. On January 21 2016 04:23 geript wrote: It's just more an exercise to get people avoiding having to talk about reads. Especially when the core of the pick plan really is to also discuss who we don't trust and why. Of those posts, this was the one that I found the scummiest, which I explained earlier. He clearly wasn't avoiding sharing reads in that post based on the role assignments. I attacked him for the "undermining" post, yet you seemed to jump on for completely different reasons that I didn't find valid. I'd say you're still in the group of players that could be mafia, but not near the top of the list. Hopefully a good use of the Link role solves the problem. | ||
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On January 23 2016 15:26 The Shining wrote: Can you point out what Keirathi posts were bad RE: Vivax? On January 23 2016 03:47 Keirathi wrote: Also, don't think we should be lynching Vivax today. Not positive he's town or anything, but his list of people to lynch looks pretty good except for maybe Rels. I'm feelin' it enough that I don't want to lynch him today. On January 23 2016 08:06 Keirathi wrote: Even though I still think there are people who are more liekly to be mafia than Vivax, I think we still have to lynch him at this point. We are pretty sure there's an artorias in the game, and the weird timing of Vivax's claim after being so unwilling to play ball with town for the first 72+ hours means that we pretty much can't shannannie off of him. These two. Initially he soft-defends Vivax without giving an alignment read when the lynch is up in the air and then returns later with his decision that we "have to lynch him". He justifies it by saying: 1) Artorias is in the game 2) The weird lemming claim 3) Vivax was useless the first 72 hours Well all three were true when he said we shouldn't be lynching Vivax so it seems like he was over explaining his reason for jumping on the bandwagon. The simple fact that Vivax had 6 votes on him to activate the night shot shouldn't be reason alone because we weren't lynching him solely for his role, we were lynching him for his play. | ||
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On January 23 2016 15:26 The Shining wrote: I do agree on your point about Damdred not really trying to keep Vivax alive, but where was Koshi aggressively pushing a counter lynch? He kept mentioning and talking about Onegu but always maintained the fact that he'd consolidate but that Onegu was always his preferred lynch. Yeah onegu is the counter lynch that I'm referring to. Stuff like this: "Wait you mean we can fucking lynch Onegu and most likely hit the fucking confirmed mafia??? Who the fuck is opposing that lynch?" "Why do I need to believe Vivax his claim? If he can't make his claim hard next days. I can kill him. Easy. Why would mafia lie about it anyway? Also he is obvious town. " "Onegu lynch is 1000000x better than Vivax lynch. I know this without reading anything xcept a couple posts from Vivax earlier and Onegu filter." | ||
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