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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 09:36 Palmar wrote:
Also @everyone does anyone particularly feel like being a "check"?
IE: a check is a person who picks a random role from a list assigned to people above him OR we assign the check to pick a random mafia favored role to make sure someone else doesn't have it.
On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible
The second statement is obviously true, so why would we waste a decent role to check that a garbage role wasn't chosen? Having a town janitor that verifies that the mafia didn't grab janitor is far less useful than another town doc or something.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 09:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 09:51 kitaman27 wrote:On January 20 2016 09:36 Palmar wrote:
Also @everyone does anyone particularly feel like being a "check"?
IE: a check is a person who picks a random role from a list assigned to people above him OR we assign the check to pick a random mafia favored role to make sure someone else doesn't have it. On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible The second statement is obviously true, so why would we waste a decent role to check that a garbage role wasn't chosen? Having a town janitor that verifies that the mafia didn't grab janitor is far less useful than another town doc or something. the latter is more for people very low on the list.
Low row can still pick up a bunch of decent roles. Plus just draft the kitaman27 role if you need a check. It tells you who took it. :/
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kitaman27
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On January 19 2016 15:49 sicklucker wrote:
fyi ill record the numbers of who said they would pick what for future references. I wont show you guys untill tomorrow because I want to use this information to game the system.
What did you have in mind here by "gaming the system"?
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kitaman27
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whoa I just realized we gotta deny the Tommy role! If scum use it in combination with Reynolds they can blow 7 people up in 1 night.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 10:47 kitaman27 wrote:
whoa I just realized we gotta deny the Tommy role! If scum use it in combination with Reynolds they can blow 7 people up in 1 night.
Whoops nevermind I'm dumb. Blows up visitors, not targets. XD
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 11:05 Cephiro wrote:
Ah, I see. So because you were inconsistent once again, you're taking the easy out of "I think you're scummy for no reasons specified, but because I think you're scummy I can say whatever the fuck I want about you."
Just what I'd expect from an anti-town Palmar.
Since you're clearly not going to be co-operative, I won't be either. So watch me pick whatever I want. And watch me laugh when you're going to talk some bs about being accountable while you're doing all kinds of shit whilst doing your best to mislead town.
I can't tell if you're saying Palmar is scum or just a pain to deal with.
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kitaman27
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Fine by me. Town points for Breshke.
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kitaman27
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Right now the only people that I'd say warrant assigned picks are Vivax, AlotSomuch and mayyybe The Shining.
Vivax seems mafia because he shows up with this post to complain about the number claiming, but doesn't suggest a better strategy or show interest in planning things out.
On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack.
AlotSomuch had a really weak intro post. Something about trying to take notes, but not having any reads. Then the way he mentions VA's supsicions of him seem....awkward? Seems fine with being assigned too.
The Shining also a mafia lean for similar reasons to Alot. A few posts on numbers and then accepting a role assignment with little sign of interest of abusing the setup or anything.
Gambler, Doctor, and kitaman27 would probably be my three preferences for the assigned roles. Mostly beneficial for town and not a ton of use for mafia. Another thing with the kita role is that if one of the doctor trio slips through, we could use it to make sure all three are in the game and then use a wall of protects/watchers/trackers to make sure they are able to pull of their checks.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 11:35 Breshke wrote:
Also I am looking for
1 x Sherlock Holmes and 1 x Professor Moriarty
I've gone back and forth in my head about whether the investigative power roles should be public to ensure that they are picked. It's tempting to throw several medics or a watcher on Holmes to ensure he lives and things go through, but there are a bunch of roles that could potentially mess with his actions. Right now I'm leaning towards keeping them hidden and relying on them getting picked by the crowd because of this.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 11:43 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:Right now the only people that I'd say warrant assigned picks are Vivax, AlotSomuch and mayyybe The Shining. Vivax seems mafia because he shows up with this post to complain about the number claiming, but doesn't suggest a better strategy or show interest in planning things out. On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. AlotSomuch had a really weak intro post. Something about trying to take notes, but not having any reads. Then the way he mentions VA's supsicions of him seem....awkward? Seems fine with being assigned too. The Shining also a mafia lean for similar reasons to Alot. A few posts on numbers and then accepting a role assignment with little sign of interest of abusing the setup or anything. Gambler, Doctor, and kitaman27 would probably be my three preferences for the assigned roles. Mostly beneficial for town and not a ton of use for mafia. Another thing with the kita role is that if one of the doctor trio slips through, we could use it to make sure all three are in the game and then use a wall of protects/watchers/trackers to make sure they are able to pull of their checks. why are 2/3 of your pics from your medium tier?
For the assigned roles? Well those were the ones that seem pro-town low risk that I'd want in the hands of mafia suspects. Ideally the townies grab the higher priority ones.
Thoughts on those three?
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 11:53 Keirathi wrote:
Someone talk to me about Damdred.
That dude is totally scum.
I had a slight town read because he brought up to super thing with dreamflower. He misread the post, but the idea seemed towny with suspicion over a player who discussed an obviously pro-town role without showing much intention to actually pick it as if he was making a play for town cred. I'd think that was a valid reason to suspect super, if it weren't for the fact that his other actions make him look pretty townie.
Damdred's content is lackluster otherwise though. What makes you so sure?
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 11:51 Breshke wrote:
Is the benefit of keeping investigative roles private outweigh the chance that multiple townies wont fuck up and pick the same thing? I'm not disagreeing with you this is a genuine question.
Not sure there is really a correct answer here. I'd lean towards yes, but then again Murphy's law..... XD
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 20:28 Vivax wrote:
I had good reason not to partake in that plan where mafia has all the numbers nicely presented for their team to coordinate.
I still don't get this. ALL players had the numbers presented for them to coordinate, how does that make it beneficial to just mafia? Like if you lie about your number as mafia, that just means you're overlapping with a different townie so it's not like you're going to magically jump 10 spots. If anything, keeping all the numbers hidden means more coordination for mafia because only they know what they are going to pick aka the "6 players choosing [9]" like a previous pyp.
On January 20 2016 22:39 Vivax wrote:
Palmar pretends to care but all he wants is just to skate by as the mafia eminence and let others do the work for him, while trying to lynch me. He is also a real sucker for kita's argument against me which was an argument a player like kita wouldn't bring as town, since I assume he knows me well enough. And on top of it the argument was bad,
Eh I've only seen you play town like twice over the past 2-3 years so I'm not really sure I have anything in mind regarding how "Vivax plays town". It's more a "things scum commonly do" read. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 100% like Palmar, but yes there are alignment indicative things to talk about and you haven't brought up any yet.
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kitaman27
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Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 23:39 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 12:52 CopCake wrote:On January 20 2016 07:32 disformation wrote:
Okay, everyone I am back. Skimmed the pages I missed.
Not really liking Vivax and CopCake so far. Both seem rather uncooperative. Excuse me I claimed to have been busy, you mafia looking for someone to blame dude? Nah, town looking for scum. I'll be honest: inactivity is a bit of a turn-off for me. TBH was a bit turned-off that you didn't claim which number you picked, hence the uncooperative bit, but it seems like you didn't even picked one... so nvm for now. Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Do we have a voting thread? I can't find a voting thread voting threadSo being #13 I don't really want to pick something that might be taken. Could go traditional doc or JK. I just hope I don't get weak cop. around 33% or 38% of dying N1, depending on whether we lynch scum D1 seems a bit harsh. :/
I'd rather you picked doc than JK to be honest.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).
yep yep, I'll also claim during the night if I do choose to frame and then I'll show up on any watchers and stuff (I'm assuming I visit every player) to confirm no tomfoolery.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 23:44 kitaman27 wrote:On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote:On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe). yep yep, I'll also claim during the night if I do choose to frame and then I'll show up on any watchers and stuff (I'm assuming I visit every player) to confirm no tomfoolery. I don't think it's a choice. It's part of the action. You'll frame everyone.
Yeah, I mean assuming I do indeed to with spybot as planned, which is like a 95% probability at this point.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 23:46 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:
Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:
1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
2.5) Gambler RNGs a target within this list.
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).
This seems solid. For number three, I think it is important that we tell them exactly who to pick. If we leave it up to them then they can pick a townie of their choice to kill and try to justify it. Since those 2-3 players don't know if they were actually targeted, they can't move their vote off a mafia at end of day if they know they're caught.
Another option we have is to force the strongest scum suspect to be the gambler. If town feels that the gambler is still mafia by the end of day one, we force the gambler target to vote for the gambler, killing them both. Otherwise, we pick the target for the gambler voter. If either player refuses to follow through, we policy lynch since the final vote count will show the +0 and +2. I think I kinda like my version better. Thoughts?
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 16:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2016 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:Right now the only people that I'd say warrant assigned picks are Vivax, AlotSomuch and mayyybe The Shining. Vivax seems mafia because he shows up with this post to complain about the number claiming, but doesn't suggest a better strategy or show interest in planning things out. On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. AlotSomuch had a really weak intro post. Something about trying to take notes, but not having any reads. Then the way he mentions VA's supsicions of him seem....awkward? Seems fine with being assigned too. The Shining also a mafia lean for similar reasons to Alot. A few posts on numbers and then accepting a role assignment with little sign of interest of abusing the setup or anything. Gambler, Doctor, and kitaman27 would probably be my three preferences for the assigned roles. Mostly beneficial for town and not a ton of use for mafia. Another thing with the kita role is that if one of the doctor trio slips through, we could use it to make sure all three are in the game and then use a wall of protects/watchers/trackers to make sure they are able to pull of their checks. This is a terrible post because the three names he mentions are basically drawn out of a fucking hat. There's a ton of people I have no faith Kita has strong opinions on simply because they haven't been around.
Do you disagree with any of those three or are you just calling it terrible for the sake of calling things terrible? The difference between an afk player and those three is that I feel they actually have displayed things that I have found objectively scummy, mainly their complacency with the thread. Is it a strong opinion? No I rarely give those so early, but it's what I'm thinking at the moment nevertheless.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote:
We haven't even lynched mafia and I already feel like we're winning rofl.
Good ol PYP games :D
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