On January 26 2016 20:57 Rels wrote: Like, not over the two dumbtells at the beginning of the game, the organizing town at a time where scum didn't care, the reaction test on someone that could have shot him instantly.
Uhh Kita just flipped scum and he tried to be very active in organizing town early on.
So clearly there were scum who at least cared to try and some who didn't.
As for SL though, I kinda think he's town.
Seems really weird that he'd quote a post that FF made calling Kita and me scum together and then get that mixed up thinking it was kita calling me scum with FF if SL is scum.
True, maybe the organizing town part is not worth much towncred.
On January 26 2016 19:47 Palmar wrote: what about the people we aren't talking about. It feels like those are most likely to be mafia.
So ... alot and copcake ? Alot is dead tonight if Shining told the truth, copcake might be scum. She said she had more time starting now so we'll see about that.
Ok so explain to me why I suddenly became mafia and I wasn't before?
I have work on weekdays, I had more time during the weekend.
Cause others are town. Cause you are useless. Cause you not picking a role is not as town indicative as I thought it was.
You are not my strongest scumread, and a big part of the read is you being useless, so if you're town and have more time on weekend I'm sure you'll be able to prove it. (=
On January 26 2016 19:54 Koshi wrote: This alot guy, anybody has meta on him? His tone is townish.
No. And he's either going to flip or scum with Shining so I don't care really. He was useless all game anyway, he said D1 he was waiting D2 for the player list to reduce in size before seriously playing; well, it didn't happen.
Why in gods name would they be mafia together? Also, can't this shot be docsaved and shit like that? What if Damdred is mafia and protects Alot?
Things that are 100% certain. Shining and Alot are not mafia together.
You really got some really flowerish reads sometimes rels. Totally wrong conclusions. Like the opposite of what it should be.
Scum doc never protects his partner there because of info + tracker. If alot survives and Shining is town, there is one confirmed doc that is scum => and for what ? Protect an useless player. So if alot survives and since no doc would protect him, Shining is scum lying about his shot. OK it doesn't prove they're scum together, but alot is scum anyway for his play.
I didn't lie about my shot and no way we're scum together. And we def wouldnt be same team. Could you explain why as scum I wouldn't just nk him to avoid being accused of lying about my shot?
I can't because im not scum. Doh
Don't know didn't think of that. As scum I suppose you wouldn't waste a KP on alot though. And no worries bro, we'll know about your shot soon enough. (=
On January 27 2016 05:32 Palmar wrote: Onegu: I didn't hate his filter when I read it, also rels feels strongly he's mafia so maybe that means he's town (#rekt).
On January 27 2016 14:08 Tictock wrote: Ok so... started this expecting to just make a simple list post but since the game is at a manageable size now I'll give you all more of my thinking. Remember, you asked for this.
I'm pretty sure these people are town: 13. Koshi (+ Show Spoiler +
Initial read was town, got worried based off EoD1 and him roleblocking me solely because I started scumreading him, EoD2 and varies interactions have me pretty sold on him being town.
D2 should pretty much prove Koshi as town, only tinfoil left is if he was scum with FF and bussed him
not sure I have really solid reasoning, so I could be wrong. but he convinced me early on that his mindset was towny. I'd prob only review if presented a good case on him
gave reasoning before, lots of things make me think he's town though
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These people might not be town, but are definitely not good lynches today 21. CopCake (+ Show Spoiler +
gut/meta read says town. Shoveled GB upon request. It may not be super strong, but I think her role would be optimal for scum later in the game to help her team. So using it like this makes it unlikely she had a real agenda for her role.
Honestly I'm not sure and I've been doubting my initial townread on him since he took CPRDoc and started dropping off. His shots on VA and me don't look very good to me either, it's like he's only shooting low hanging fruit. I've played with him when he was Vig and his play was a lot different (his filter that game) but idk how strong that is given the vast setup differences.
I left him in this section because even if he is mafia he should be trying to hit other mafia, which makes him more of a threat to mafia than to town.
I doubt scum fakes that spreadsheet thing he did, though as I'm typing I have to wonder why he waited till N2 to share it. If he gave up on it early why not just share it then?
Ehh checking timestamps it seems pretty impossible that he faked that in response to what was going on at the time, and if your gunna preplan something like that I think you'd just make some real effort into the current gamestate not shit from preD1. So there, it's even tinfoil proof.
Oh also there's other stuff but I feel like I used all my space here.
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Which leaves me with these people to look at even though I've got 2 scum somewhere above this.
Was suspect of him most of the early game, he did something that made me townread him more. Yes, I actually can't think of what it was atm. Think it's time to take a long hard look at his filter and see if he deserved that TR.
Initial thinking is that he's been pretty active and open but hasn't really been putting in the effort that I've seen him make as town. Palmar also was right to ping out his GB case, it was really over the top for the actual content it had. Then again I think I've made bad filter posts like that before as town so idk.
At the very least Dis should be happy that his nickname now implies how other people read him as well as his own reads.
I'll be honest, I'm mostly letting my fear get to me. Rels plays a strong active scum game though and I think his play this game might just be that. I don't have much conclusive to support that but I'll def be going through his filter checking some things.
Some things I've noticed that Rels does as scum that might help: he doesn't bus (would be extra bad in this game), he goes after low-hanging fruit, over focuses on small details to make scum reads off of. Those are the sorta things I'll be looking for
honestly pretty torn on Onegu. I thought the logic of him killing Alot as scum made sense, but I'm not sure if that's enough now. I need to check some stuff about how he's been using his power too.
This is pure tinfoil but I was thinking Onegu's role and the way he's been using it could still be used rather effectively as scum. What if Onegu is scum and his team have been targeting themselves with KP and he's been bussing his teammates with someone they picked? Gets his team a lot of cred as they "get shot"
I could well be way off course, but if that's true though it would add up as a team of FF, Onegu, Palmar, Koshi makes sense even given how D2 went down.
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Wow TT is scum.
He makes a list of his reads, and is convinced the 3 people at the bottom are scum. We know he is that sure because of this sentence:
Which leaves me with these people to look at even though I've got 2 scum somewhere above this.
"I've got two scums above", meaning the 3 below are 100% scums. So if he's town, he's abolutely sure Onegu disfo and me are scums.
But reading the spoilers:
1. disformation ( Was suspect of him most of the early game, he did something that made me townread him more. Yes, I actually can't think of what it was atm. Think it's time to take a long hard look at his filter and see if he deserved that TR.
Initial thinking is that he's been pretty active and open but hasn't really been putting in the effort that I've seen him make as town. Palmar also was right to ping out his GB case, it was really over the top for the actual content it had. Then again I think I've made bad filter posts like that before as town so idk.
At the very least Dis should be happy that his nickname now implies how other people read him as well as his own reads.) 3. Rels (I'll be honest, I'm mostly letting my fear get to me. Rels plays a strong active scum game though and I think his play this game might just be that. I don't have much conclusive to support that but I'll def be going through his filter checking some things.
Some things I've noticed that Rels does as scum that might help: he doesn't bus (would be extra bad in this game), he goes after low-hanging fruit, over focuses on small details to make scum reads off of. Those are the sorta things I'll be looking for) 4. Onegu (honestly pretty torn on Onegu. I thought the logic of him killing Alot as scum made sense, but I'm not sure if that's enough now. I need to check some stuff about how he's been using his power too.
This is pure tinfoil but I was thinking Onegu's role and the way he's been using it could still be used rather effectively as scum. What if Onegu is scum and his team have been targeting themselves with KP and he's been bussing his teammates with someone they picked? Gets his team a lot of cred as they "get shot"
I could well be way off course, but if that's true though it would add up as a team of FF, Onegu, Palmar, Koshi makes sense even given how D2 went down.)
So for all of these reads he states variations of "I need to check his filter". This is not how townie operate: here TT is giving his reads BEFORE doing the filter dives that should conclude in his reads. He is preparing his reads progression without doing the work to back them up. In short, they are fabricated.
Furthermore, where is GB in all this ? He's been the scummiest player for a long time and he doesn't appear in this post.
On January 27 2016 11:36 CopCake wrote: Sorry was looking for the perfect pic
By the power of the holy town and love I punish you GB
##Shovel: Glowingbear
hahahahaha nice (= 99.999999% scum kill right there
Do you think CC is town?
Maybe. Her "I don't care" attitude + her using her power immediately when asked are good pointer to that. We'll see if she keeps up her "I will be more active on weekends" promise.
On January 28 2016 00:14 sicklucker wrote: rels mafia chances just went way up by telling me to use it imo
I was thinking the same. When asked to do an obvious town thing, Copcake did it immediately. You on the other hand delegated the responsability of using your ability. Not good.
On January 28 2016 00:18 sicklucker wrote: If i was mafia why would I even claim this role? it puts me in spots like this where im a 50% chance to get lynched...
If i really was mafia I would claim like kenpachi or something
You cannot claim another mysterious role without taking the risk of being cc.
On January 28 2016 00:18 sicklucker wrote: If i was mafia why would I even claim this role? it puts me in spots like this where im a 50% chance to get lynched...
If i really was mafia I would claim like kenpachi or something
You cannot claim another mysterious role without taking the risk of being cc.
thats not true it says in the op the role is random
Also I cannot be on one of the two mafia teams as I explained many times
On January 27 2016 23:53 sicklucker wrote: I can get on board with killing onegu. But I am not the same mafia alignment as him and he didnt kill me so there is some reason to acualy tr him now sadly..
That being said he seems super wling to kill me here which means he will just try to kill me tonight so im probably down. (i dont have to use my powers)
Uhh, so you are mafia just not with Onegu?
haha p: busted by the other team Onegu TT SL ??? Last one is probably copcake
On January 28 2016 00:25 sicklucker wrote: people who have been townreading me and dont vote onegu are scum and only thinking for survival. Rels tt im looking at you
On January 28 2016 00:25 sicklucker wrote: people who have been townreading me and dont vote onegu are scum and only thinking for survival. Rels tt im looking at you
This better bet your fucking plan palmar nothing else makes sense to me
You're kidding me ? I just posted I wanted to lynch Onegu over you.
then why the fuck did you just put me on a scum team?
Cause you're acting really scummy right now and the thing TT found might very well be a slip. - shitty defense with arguments that makes no sense - OMGUS - not wanting to use his ability when it's useless as town, as if you use it to deny a lynch in LYLO YOU will be lynched
Maybe you're town overreacting to the pressure: calm down and come back not spouting bullshit if that's the case.
On January 27 2016 23:53 sicklucker wrote: I can get on board with killing onegu. But I am not the same mafia alignment as him and he didnt kill me so there is some reason to acualy tr him now sadly..
That being said he seems super wling to kill me here which means he will just try to kill me tonight so im probably down. (i dont have to use my powers)
Uhh, so you are mafia just not with Onegu?
haha p: busted by the other team Onegu TT SL ??? Last one is probably copcake
No disfo
disformation is 110% mafia
I am more sure on him than anyone else in the game.
On January 27 2016 23:53 sicklucker wrote: I can get on board with killing onegu. But I am not the same mafia alignment as him and he didnt kill me so there is some reason to acualy tr him now sadly..
That being said he seems super wling to kill me here which means he will just try to kill me tonight so im probably down. (i dont have to use my powers)
Uhh, so you are mafia just not with Onegu?
haha p: busted by the other team Onegu TT SL ??? Last one is probably copcake
No disfo
disformation is 110% mafia
I am more sure on him than anyone else in the game.
On January 28 2016 00:31 sicklucker wrote: Rels townreads me all game - when he sees i might lynched he jumps ship for no reason TT townreads me all game0 when he sees i might get lynched he jumps ship for no reason
Now this is important becuase if you vote onegu you can get nked. They are mafia thinking only for survival
Shut the fuck up I just said AND repeated I prefer Onegu over you. Of course I'm not voting him before I'm sure he's the lynch because of his fucking power.
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