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On January 30 2016 22:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 22:24 Rels wrote:On January 30 2016 10:26 Palmar wrote:
It's super tempting to flip copcake just to know what gb was It's super tempting to flip copcake, end of sentence. GB is like 99% scum it's not worth it to flip copcake just to verify; but we need to kill her 'cause she's still useless. See this is not necessary, really. I have no tonal reason to think she's mafia. Although of course her activity points towards it. The point is, if GB was mafia and we hit mafia today, KP should go down to 1. If it remains 2, GB was town. So the best course of action, even for information, is to find mafia and lynch it. Tonight we had 2 kp, so that means the 4(5) mafia who flipped were not 4 on the same team. The most likely option of flipped mafia (right now) is: Vivax Disfo Kita Onegu FF (GB??) This means no matter which team we kill mafia from, kp should go down to 1 and we should be in splendid shape. In any case, I really, really think Keirathi's case on Tictock was actually quite good. I am going to sheep it today and kill TT.
Oh Rip me.
Was thinking this post was from you Rels kus of the quote right at top.
Guess I need to wake up more.
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Since there is a real chance of us being in LyLo tomorrow I think I should use my final Ban today.
Blazinghand (New - TL Mafia Ban List)
You are Blazinghand, The Chosen, Wielder of the Sacred List, and He Who Guides The Newbie. Twice per game during the day phase (ability activates after the end of day), you may recommend that a player be banned. Unfortunately, you took over the banlist in the shadow of the Great GMarshal, He Who Sees All Things And Wields The Mighty Hammer, and your power is not absolute. The player you targeted may choose to either take a 'warning' (and be roleblocked for the following night phase and the following day phase) or 'sitout a game' (that player's vote during the following day phase is not counted). If the player chooses neither (either out of choice or because they are roleblocked) they will be BANNED. A banned player will have their vote stolen and added to your voting power for the following day.
Which is pretty meh, but should at least a bit more info tomorrow.
If the Banned person has a vote tomorrow you know they took the RB.
Maybe would be good on someone like Palmar, Shinging, or Cake since they should have no role related things to do, so unless they are mafia can take a RB, which can be verified the next day.
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Tbh I have no idea if that's a good way to use it, but was all I could come up with.
It's a really odd role.
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Ok finally got around to trying to read Rels filter. I think he is my preferred lynch today still.
I focused on associative reads here because Rels is a strong team player who, especially in a game like this, would do his best to ensure his team has a solid chance at winning the game. Also these were the posts that stood out the most to me when reading through his filter.
Sorry if it's kinda rambling, I was adding and moving stuff around as I read, tried to clean it up a little.
This stuck out to me. It's a weird question and reaction Rels posed to Disformation, why was he worried about Dis not reading the thread and what does he conclude about him reading it? It's NAI information.
On January 21 2016 06:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:On January 21 2016 06:00 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 05:59 disformation wrote:On January 21 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 05:34 disformation wrote:On January 21 2016 04:35 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 04:30 disformation wrote:On January 21 2016 04:23 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 04:17 disformation wrote:
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Seems like Watson is already taken. =/ Wait. How did you find out ? Huh? As I said here: On January 21 2016 03:51 disformation wrote:Hmm... would actually be really glad to take Watson instead of the traditional doctor. Saves me the trouble of figuring out if I am paranoid/weak/normal.  Can I can I can I? :D Additionally there is tons of upside if Holmes and Moriarty are in the game and they should be imo. So I kinda love the idea of being Holmes and was about to submit that pick, when I decided to double check and make sure that no one else wanted to be watson. You know since I kinda don't want to end up as mysterious challenger. So I did a Strg+F on Watson and found out Breshke wanted him.  I need you to be around for a question, tell me when you're ready. sure. Also trying to catch up but the thread moves faster than I can read. @Palmar's plan: there are a few points where picks are like contested? Like breshke wanting to pick Watson, which could lead to FF being an ever doper MC. Still there ? Yeah. What's up? What was my reaction to Breshke wanting to take Watson ? Uh... I think you didn't like that idea at all first, cause you had a scum read on Breshke. Then you realized that it would be really easy to figure out if would be lying about the sanities of holmes and mortuary. Do you still think Breshke is scum? OK good p: checking if you really read the thread Yep I still think Breshke is scum
***Note to check Rel's Follow up reads on Dis***
On January 21 2016 21:57 Rels wrote:
disfo gonna filter Alot Onegu and Vivax wanna do this with me ?
Again, this friendly "Come do stuff with me" tone from Rels towards Dis. I may have passed it over but I didn't see any solid reasons for Rels to TR Dis.
This later on read looks more legit:
disformation => He helped town a lot before the picking phase deadline to make sure nobody overlapped. In particualr, he was concerned town got invesgative roles, which scum wouldn't like. He was OK taking doc which is a terrible role for scum. Finally, the excitement when he thought he found a scumslip with TT's RB claim was super townie.
All's fair in filter dives, some cred to Rels for this post D1. Suggesting 2 scum lynches right off. Also interesting to note for associations.
On January 21 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:
Gonna grab some lunch, then I will see who I want to lynch today. Having so much info only 12 hours into the day is soooo cool! Before filtering, I would lynch Vivax, Onegu (for both: kinda useless during the first phases, didn't cooperate during the number pick phase, didn't cooperate during the role pick phase and we don't know what they picked) and AlotSomuch (useless but trying to be nice). We'll see if that changes after I read their filters. (=
This hard townread on Kita kinda comes out of nowhere.
On January 21 2016 22:21 Rels wrote:
Palmar, kita is never mafia with the amount of organizing he's done (tier list + completing your plan). And if he is, he's getting killed anyway.
Will read Vivax filter then see what you wrote.
On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong.
I pinged out that last post much earlier in the game, I still really hate it. Especially with Kita having flipped scum.
It's way too flippant, Rel's hasn't posted anything that would warrant a TR so strong he should be dismissing stuff like this if he is town.
Then this whole exchange happened.
On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around. I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ?
On January 23 2016 07:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around. I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ? Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me? If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect. can you answer the question ? Yes and kinda no. More null Then why did you say Palmar's points against kita were valid not long before ? Like you even scumread me for brushing them off here: On January 22 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong. Aww Rels, and I was townreading you too. Why'd you have to go and blow off pretty valid points like this? So you must have thought there were super good points. Yet you nullread him ? I was disappointed in your response. If you disagreed with his points, why did you just blow it off? Cause I think kita is town and I don't think these points make kita scum. Apparently you did too, since you nullread him after that; if you don't think these points make kita scum, why do that matter to you ?
On January 23 2016 07:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:On January 23 2016 07:27 Tictock wrote:On January 23 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
TT tell me when you're around. I'm sorta around. Least checking in. Though at this point it looks like we have to lynch Vivax. Did you scumread kita when you said his list was cool ? Like I said it was just right time right place, didn't really matter his alignment. Why should it matter that I thanked him for something that happened to be useful to me? If he's scum I think it's more likely he'd make sure his list is near perfect. can you answer the question ? Yes and kinda no. More null Then why did you say Palmar's points against kita were valid not long before ? Like you even scumread me for brushing them off here: On January 22 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:On January 21 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:31 Palmar wrote:On January 21 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:On January 21 2016 22:23 Palmar wrote:
Like for me to believe Kita is town, I have to believe Kita is a dumbass. I don't think Kita is a dumbass. But you're a dumbass too, he made a lot of sense when he said FFA players should also pick roles so we're sure we have no overlap. You saying he sabotaged your plan was super wrong. yeah but that completely makes my plan useless because then we have no checks on mafia. But I'm not here to argue about the plan. The point is, I think he is mafia. The plan thing is very minor. I think his read progress on Vivax wasn't genuine. I think there is a disconnect between his initial role list contribution and his actual followup to that. I think there is no way he genuinely believes I'm mafia I think his filter is too short. I don't particularly think he has been very useful in figuring out mafia. Pretty sure you're wrong. Aww Rels, and I was townreading you too. Why'd you have to go and blow off pretty valid points like this? So you must have thought there were super good points. Yet you nullread him ? I was disappointed in your response. If you disagreed with his points, why did you just blow it off? Cause I think kita is town and I don't think these points make kita scum. Apparently you did too, since you nullread him after that; if you don't think these points make kita scum, why do that matter to you ?
The whole thing just feels so agressive and overblown, like he wants me to back off that point due to being unsure on Kita myself. Never in this entire exchange (either with me or Palmar) does Rels ever try to explain his TR on Kita beyond "He helped organize things".
Oh and this in a large list post.
kita => )=
I got up to pg 19 in Rels filter but I'm pretty sure I'm not focusing very well anymore so I'm gunna stop there.
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Also, can people kindly get their heads out of their asses and stop sheeping an OMGUS case by a dead towny on me?
I made a response, so yell at me about that.
Read my filter and tell me why I'm scum.
Or maybe someone is actually good enough to figure out that it's really unlikely I'm scum?
Right now this is a sad excuse for a day given that we've got a fair bit of info because of the RB's on SL and me and the Watch/RB on Cake.
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Oh I did also go through Shining's filter earlier. I get a lot of town vibes from it and nothing really stood out that made me think scum.
About the only thing that I found a little off was his shot on Alot, but that's probably just because I just disagreed that Alot seemed scummy at all this game.
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We did get confirmation of GB's role btw, just not his alignment.
6. GlowingBear, as Kenpachi, was Dug an Early Grave Day 3!
But since nobody is willing to talk to me and just voting me anyways, I'm out.
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On February 01 2016 04:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 03:23 Tictock wrote:We did get confirmation of GB's role btw, just not his alignment. 6. GlowingBear, as Kenpachi, was Dug an Early Grave Day 3! But since nobody is willing to talk to me and just voting me anyways, I'm out. Did you get roleblocked last night?
On January 30 2016 13:54 Tictock wrote:
Huh, apparently I was wrong about the Vanilla Virus.
It is in fact a Roleblocking effect.
Was surprised when I saw the notification.
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I'm still pretty much at only wanting to lynch Rels or Cake.
If nothing else hopefully Super shoots one of those 2 if you guys lynch me.
I'm also sticking with my initial target for the Ban, I'll announce it near EoD if I can step off the floor for a sec at work.
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On February 01 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 05:51 Tictock wrote:
I'm still pretty much at only wanting to lynch Rels or Cake.
If nothing else hopefully Super shoots one of those 2 if you guys lynch me.
I'm also sticking with my initial target for the Ban, I'll announce it near EoD if I can step off the floor for a sec at work. Why not shining?
I think he's town. Why do you guys think he's mafia?
Ban player either takes the RB or they have no vote tomorrow, one or the other has to happen.
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Barely got a break in time, changed my Ban to Shining.
I get no notification back from the action, we'll be able to verify if TS took the RB by him being able to vote tomorrow.
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On February 01 2016 08:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 08:54 Tictock wrote:
Barely got a break in time, changed my Ban to Shining.
I get no notification back from the action, we'll be able to verify if TS took the RB by him being able to vote tomorrow. Of course 5 minutes before deadline. Don't let this guy live
I said I'b be trying to take a break about this time.
Not my fualt nobody wanted to talk about shit till last few hours of the day.
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Boom!
GG rels.
God reads from me D3 apparently.
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On February 01 2016 09:00 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 08:59 Rels wrote:GG town I have no idea who is the last scum though sry. Also real? GB maybe confirmed scum then?
Looks legit to me, if we only see on KP hen we are golden.
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On February 01 2016 09:01 sicklucker wrote:
Rels is such a good scum player tho. I remembered this and thats the only reason i didnt waver
He's always a player who you need to tinfoil a little kus of it.
I'd like to think I did a good job pointing out solid associations from him though.
Somethng just felt off about how he was reading some people as town but not others. That was why I never felt ok TRing him.
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On February 01 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 09:02 Superbia wrote:
Honestly for me the reason was him bringing up all kinds of logic all of a sudden when he's getting lynched while he could've been bringing that shit up all day. yeah that, and unlike you or koshi I had gotten weird feelings from him throughout the game, but never enough to act on it. I said at some point he might be mafia. I am almost 100% certain this is a mafia team: Vivax Kita Rels Disfo
Possible, Rels and Dis were both pretty adiment about lynching Vivax, and while my gut tells me Rels would preffer not to bus his own team, Vivax is the person to bus for cred (he really hates playing as scum).
Yea, probably pretty apot on there actually.
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On February 01 2016 09:10 Palmar wrote:
btw we can't do the kp analysis anymore so we're really back to just scumhunting.
disfo and rels might have been on opposite teams so they could've been the carriers of kp last night, meaning that all the roleblocked people are back on the menu.
I really doubt that given the interactions I pointed out between Rels and Damdred.
Also how mad would you have been if I left my Ban on you Palmar?
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On February 01 2016 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
Super I think the shot is ticktock to hedge bets tho, Im trying to think of who would still try in this spot as mafia and his name comes to mind. IT sucks because hes done townie things but its easy to fake townie when your really scum hunting
Yea, I would do this as scum. I understand a shot on me tonight.
I'd obv prffer to see Cake and GB's flips but I'm satisfied with where we are at in this game. I think you guys can afford to loose me and work out the rest from there.
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On February 01 2016 13:16 CopCake wrote:
Also just think of this
I know I am town
What if when I die you find out GB was town too?
You either get two less town or find out one mafia gb and town cake.
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This feels odd coming from someone who is basically not playing the game.
She even told us the only reason she was around near deadline was to play dota with rayn.
I know I'm dying to find out what GB's alignment was, so why isn't Cake?
Sorry bad joke, but do you get what I mean?
Even if GB was town that is great for us to know.
And actually in the off chance of GB being town, it would make it super likely that Cake is mafia.
+ Show Spoiler [Tinfoil] +It's weak but I noticed Rels making posts earlier on that had a similar tone to those I found about Kita and Dis. His attitude about her changed in the past day or two, but notice even when he was pushing his "Koshi hatter'd Keir" stuff he never considered CC a target and it was always me 100%.
Cake's vote also being an outlier this late in the game, and when she was around (even if she wasn't here for EoD, she was posting) decided to keep her vote on me for no reason.
Thinking it's super likely that Rels last post was WIFOM and that Cake was mafia with him.
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Well there goes my reading for my meal break then.
Looks like a snow storm is canceling my 2nd job today so I'll be able to put together an EoN post.
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