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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 19:39 GMT
#848
Same for Sloosh? Who the fuck is going to lynch him?
Even though everybody said Sloosh was mafia with boxerfred during the first half of D1.


Now Sloosh lynched mafia and everybody yells confirmed town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 19:40 GMT
#849
On January 12 2016 04:39 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 16:28 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 10 2016 15:26 Tubesock wrote:
##Vote: GiygaS

On January 10 2016 12:11 GiygaS wrote:
I'm gonna ladder a bit and come back, but before I do

##Vote tubesock

His last posts townreads were really odd. Basically My list is (roughly from scummy to less scummy)

tubesock: not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't + Show Spoiler [ Darthfoley's Tube Case] +
On January 10 2016 10:08 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 04:37 Tubesock wrote:
@Eden - I did think the thread was heading in the towning people for too dumb to be mafia reasons. Also I posted to post. At the time there really wasn't anything I felt compelled to respond to.

Easy town reads
Reyn, Eden, SloOsh, Nooniansoong

GGtemplar I didn't like his first like 5 posts but he looks a lot better this morning.
Koshi while gives me some weird scuzzies I am not willing to lynch him.
Vayne I am not willing to lynch either. I like his tone.

the rest haven't said anything I found interesting or memorable.

I have to work today and have Christmas dinner tonight but after that I'll be in thread.


This is Tubesock's only post of the day and I'm not a fan. Easy reads on sloosh, Noonian? None of these reads have any reasoning behind them. The vagueness with things like tone or "weird scuzzies" make me think scum


mderg: + Show Spoiler [ blah blah words] +
says easy things that are easy to say. his darth case is the only real content he has and it doesn't feel very substantial. Feels like he went looking around for something to read on, made the post and moved on. He's not pushing his read anymore, and hasn't even really talked about it again.

---- Line of scumminess ---

kmatt: baby come back
VA: I want to believe that his matter of fact tone makes him town, but I just can't given the things I'm reading about his reputation

---- Line of towniness ---

noon
boxer
koshi
ggtemp: If he was mafia he would have used his supposed inexperience as a shield.
sloosh

---- Line of more-towniness ---

darth
eden
rayn


There's very likely a mafia in my town reads as I'm really not sure about a lot of them, but I want to lynch mderg or tubesock as it stands now.

GiygaS should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. His case if he were town would include things like how I scum claimed, bitched and whined about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when I was called out for it I bailed scummily. That I have 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe I was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

If you are going to make a case, it should be something like Tubesock's Tubesock is mafia case. Not, wow we have the same reads but Tubesocks town reads are so weird! There is plenty to case me on beyond just what Darth has said without needing to parrot the most active posters.


As someone who is currently voting you and is quite interested in lynching you today, how would you explain the above to me to be coming from a townie instead? Being conscious of the problems with your play thus far makes me more inclined to kill you, rather than less (as I figure was the intended effect) -- I'm not really impressed with the "X is scummy because he called me scummy for ABC reasons, when you should be scumreading me for XYZ reasons" argument, I'd rather just kill you for XYZ (and maybe ABC) and sort out X later.


Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 16:37 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 10 2016 16:30 slOosh wrote:
Eden, what do you think about Tubesock's point that GiygaS had more or less the same townreads as Tubesock, yet cites his townreads as the reason for voting Tubesock?

It's interesting, a pretty reasonable read.

But I would still rather kill Tubesock, as that's the only thing he's posted (as of me typing this) that's left me willing to consider not killing him, and as I already thought GiygaS was pretty solidly town.

What do you think?


Eden is town because I do not think a mafia would ever make this. Sure, if we were both scum then that's possible. Despite strongly thinking I'm scum, he still made an effort to reevaluate. He is searching for the truth. mafia!Eden would not gain anything from doing this to me.

And what he gained out of this is that only 1 of GiygaS or I can be mafia. So, while he's not sold I am town, he is obviously thinking about it and not dismissing it out of hand.

you know like Rayn did.

Good post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 19:41 GMT
#852
On January 12 2016 04:40 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:
On January 12 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:
On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred?


He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did.

He kinda did it very late.

He didn't do it "as soon as he saw an opportunity". He just did it seconds before the lynch. If he was planning on moving off mafia, wouldn't he at least do it faster and try to actually not lynch his teammate? Or stay on mafia and get the towncred?


I don't understand what makes it less scummy that he did it in the last second.
I don't think he was planning anything. I think at the last second he was like "hmmm maybe i can actually save my scumbud" and switched.
ive done it many times as scum.

That is shit then. Staying is way better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:28 GMT
#869
Good thing this game doesn't operate under majority lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:33 GMT
#870
On January 12 2016 05:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will write my quick thoughts incase I am vigged, don't want to invest too much time obviously when its super possible ill just die.

The most likely mafia I can deduct from voting analysis and a follow up of his filter is darthfoley

You will see that Tubesock was most likely the mafia mislynch of choice, kinda sure he is town. When the 2nd vote drops onto boxerfred, tubesock is sitting at 3 votes. starting to get close. then darthfoley goes ahead and votes for tubesock to make it a comfortable 4-2. But what you can't account for as mafia is a last second large swing like that resulting in boxer's lynch. It is a very suspicious and well timed vote on his part.

Follow that up with gems like this from his filter

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:35 darthfoley wrote:
1) I think it's scummy to generate discussion and then pop out because it seems helpful, all while staying under the radar without much concrete reasoning.

2) At the time I made my post, I'm pretty sure VA had only thrown out one name in the whole thread: Sloosh as scum read. Boxerfred has been more holistic in his approach to Q&A to Koshi and others imo. I haven't looked through Tubesock's or any of the less active posters yet.


See part 2, boxerfred literally has almost no filter besides 1 post. He hasn't looked through any of the less active posters but says boxerfred is a shining example of being holistic? Soft defense that you wouldn't technically even realize you are doing as a mafia partner.

Now look through his voting pattern, he flip flops on me and tubesock at the slightest change of wind to try to appear as if he is mulling his options but really he doesnt care that either of us is lynched, they are both mislynches for him. Thread support was the only thing that ever swayed his opinion.

Finally, this is more of tells for me instead of mafia play but his first page is a lot of feigning ignorance with mechanics of the game to generate filter and even tells us about stuff he is doing irl which I largely associate with mafia attempting to lighten mood/make them appear more likable.

cya at deadline Maybe.

I like this case a lot VA. Tbh I can see darthfoley be mafia after reading this case and rereading his filter after. So that means something because mostly I don't believe any case.

The only thing I disagree with is the bolded. However, there are other reasons why he would move off Tubesock as mafia.
1) Maybe he moved off the Tubesock lynch at first because he knew tubesock is town and because he felt that the thread was going away from that lynch.
2) Maybe he didn't want to be part of a townlynch and his mafia buddies were not in danger at that point.

But I totally agree his filter is not consistent. He just moves left and right and never actually has a real read he believes in.


darthfoley it is.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:36 GMT
#871
Ugh. Maybe it is better for the vig to not shoot. RB is gone so he shouldn't be afraid to lose his shot another night. Unless mafia decides to shoot him today he can always shoot N2.

I just don't know for sure if scott is mafia here. I would maybe give him another day.

or maybe not.

We lose a ml on a missed shot though. We do get information. And maybe regain that ml if there is a doc. or vet takes a shot.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:37 GMT
#872
w.e we started good.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:45 GMT
#874
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 11 2016 01:46 darthfoley wrote:
##unvote

On January 11 2016 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Unofficial Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred

Not voted (2): Kmatt, darthfoley


Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.

Looking at the votes darthfoley. You put vayne on 3 with your vote, while tube already had 3 votes. Boxerfred was nowhere near any suspicion then.
But as soon as boxer gained more votes, you switch off vayne, (which doesn't make that much sense really) and move back to Tubesock, putting Tubesock a safe distance above boxerfred. This while Tubesock was looking better and better how long the game progresses.


Saying that you ideally would have to move to noonian instead of pushing the Tubesock lycnh is true. BUT it is true only in retrospect, I can totally get that you made that mistake as mafia there, not knowing noonian would ever happen and betting on Tubesock.

I really like this case from VA. And I had a dark suspicion about you while following EoD1. I waved it away during the night, but after that case, it is back in full force.


I think you are mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:47 GMT
#875
The only thing that happened between those 2 posts in the spoiler is rayn moving off tubesock. I know that I also was contemplating to move off tubesock at that point and that I have been quite ok with a VA lynch from the start, it was not a bad move for mafia to try to get some momentum going on VA.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:49 GMT
#876
darthfoley, if you are mafia. I hope you were at least not that unlucky to roll it with scott as well. Because that would be unfortunate for your first game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:50 GMT
#877
On January 12 2016 06:47 Koshi wrote:
The only thing that happened between those 2 posts in the spoiler is rayn moving off tubesock. I know that I also was contemplating to move off tubesock at that point and that I have been quite ok with a VA lynch from the start, it was not a bad move for mafia to try to get some momentum going on VA.

I even might have moved off tubesock onto boxerfred iirc. I just forgot to put my vote in the voting thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:51 GMT
#878
ohh you never actually voted for VA. ugh. Let me recheck then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:54 GMT
#879
On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh

##Vote: VayneAuthority

You did vote for VA. Or I am going crazy or I didn't see it in the voting thread.
cba to look it up another time. I am going to assume you didn't.

OK. darthfoley it is. I am excited about this read.



VA, you are such a sexy fucker.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 21:59 GMT
#882
Grr. I would like to be mvp of this game. But it is probably going to be this guy.
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 10 2016 02:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm about to go to bed will refresh a couple more times in case there's any last questions. Here's another updated summary of where I'm at.

sloOsh boxerfred darthfoley mderg

Where I'm at right now though, I would be very surprised if only one of these scumreads is accurate. I think at the very least I've pinned down 2 scum in these red names.

GiygaS Eden1892 Nooniansoong Koshi Raynpelikoneet

I feel pretty good about all of these players being town.

??? Tubesock VayneAuthority Kmatt

No fkin clue
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 22:53 GMT
#891
Why is mderg town Eden?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 22:54 GMT
#892
Ohyeah nvm. I know why he is town. LoL


mderg is town boys.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 22:54 GMT
#893
"likely town"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 22:55 GMT
#894
On January 12 2016 07:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Do not lynch: Koshi, mderg, slOosh, GGTeMpLaR, Tubesock

Top targets: darthfoley, scott31337

Figure these guys out: Nooniansoong, VayneAuthority, GiygaS

Watch this guy who's probably town, but also good enough to be mafia here: raynpelikoneet

I want to add that VA is never mafia if darthfoley is. And that I don't think Kush is mafia. Not at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 23:22 GMT
#913
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon

If there is a named vt, there is a framer, and we might not have mafia. But I never seen a framer not frame mafia.
If there is a doctor, we got mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 11 2016 23:23 GMT
#915
##vote: Tubesock

Giygas, promise me you are mafia or cop. Not a fucking vanilla townie being a giant dumbass. And if you are, please let us know in time. Which is right when you read this post.
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