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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 19:48 GMT
#1156
On January 14 2016 04:44 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 04:42 mderg wrote:
Your theory on koshi feels pretty similar to your case against rayn. I think it's pretty unlikely that koshi is scum but with some crazy narrative there's an off chance that he is scum.


Yup.

Do you think town is in a good or bad position right now?

Do you think Koshi's frustration is justified?

I'd say town is in a good position right now.

I think some frustration is justified but not quite to this extent.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 19:59 GMT
#1158
On January 14 2016 04:51 Eden1892 wrote:
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On January 14 2016 04:07 mderg wrote:
Eden, do you seriously think lynching Tubesock is a bad decision?

Yeah. It's a perfectly logical, reasonable decision that's also the wrong decision to make. I fully understand what people are doing lynching him, but he just seems so town to me.

I agree with the point that compared to an average game it's pretty likely that he has been framed. That being said I won't be able to trust anything he's said unless he flips green.

Also what he's doing right now is pretty much how I would try to save my ass, if I was scum in his position.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 20:18 GMT
#1163
On January 14 2016 05:13 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:23 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:12 Koshi wrote:
Ok only on page 11. I see even more people are voting me. I like it.

One of the things that I will not do 100% this game is call people names or capslock. I'll take the lynch with gratitude. If it happens. I would be surprised. Pleasantly even.


But that's how i know you're town...


People should think about this post.

Can you elaborate on that?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 22:15 GMT
#1175
I honestly don't think your town case on him is more convincing than the red check. It basically comes down to him being active and giving reads.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 22:31 GMT
#1184
On January 14 2016 07:19 Eden1892 wrote:
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On January 14 2016 07:15 mderg wrote:
I honestly don't think your town case on him is more convincing than the red check. It basically comes down to him being active and giving reads.

Why would he do that as a caught scum? It's a gigantic waste of his time if he's scum. It's clearly not self-preservation because he keeps telling us to kill him.

Are you telling me you're unconvinced that someone who is active and giving involved reads is town? And that that's a bad town case?

And that with a known framer in the format, a red check is enough to convince you?

Why do you think the mafia didn't frame Tubesock innocent?

First point is wifom

His "towniness" pretty much started with the red check. D1 I would have lynched him over lots of people and his biggest contribution was the case on Giygas. Then he made a case on rayn. While that's not the most scummy play I've seen it's also not showing insane towniness
After the redcheck he locked much better, that's true but there's still a good chance he wasn't framed.

There were a few others who would have been sensible cop checks.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#1189
On January 14 2016 07:39 Eden1892 wrote:
What does that even mean? How is that "WIFOM"? It's a fact that if he flips scum, no one is taking any heed to anything he said in the thread. It's also a fact that self-preservation isn't what's going on since he's literally telling us we should kill him as he says all this. Neither of those scum motivations (confusing the thread and self-preservation) make sense.

Why can't you explain why scum would do what he's doing? Is it that hard? Maybe there's a reason it's so difficult to figure out why scum would do this? Like him not being scum??

How were his cases on Giygas or ray scummy? You're basically just saying that his D1 was a wash by saying "it's not the scummiest thing but it's not insanely towny." So it's not obviously town or obviously scum. Insightful.

And sure, there's a "good chance" he wasn't framed, I guess. Whatever that even means. It's so inexact that I'm not sure there's an actual idea being conveyed behind it, but there's a "good chance" I guess.

And who are those few others, then? If they were more sensible cop checks and you think the mafia framed them instead why aren't you trying to lynch them?

the self-preservation thing is wifom.

Why would scum do that? self-preservation.

Not obviously town and not obviously scum. It almost takes a fucking genius to understand that's how I think his D1 was.

I never said anything about more sensible cop checks. I said other sensible cop checks. And why would I vote them just because they're sensible cop checks? Do you think noon, scott, darth, VA were not sensible cop checks?

pls stop being a whiny bitch
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2016 23:26 GMT
#1199
On January 14 2016 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
and with that flip I now agree with koshi that eden is incredibly suspicous

I think people who simply peaced out because there was a redcheck are more likely to be scum. (noon)
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 14 2016 21:44 GMT
#1223
That's the spirit
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 15 2016 00:25 GMT
#1241
I'd be perfectly fine lynching scott
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 15 2016 10:13 GMT
#1277
On January 15 2016 14:10 scott31337 wrote:
Got really busy at work guys - but I wanted to put out my thoughts. I'll try to jump on more tomorrow.

In order from town to scummy

1. GiygaS - Cop not CC'ed (I feel for ya bud, I was a two shot tracker that claimed one shot, and got disrespected too)
9. Koshi - He's shitting his town rainbow style, he's angry - yes, he does this when his town fails him.
11. GGTeMpLaR - He's playing well, and shooting it out -
2. Eden1892 - He feels town - I know he was trying to prove everyone wrong with the "TS was town" - but it needed to happen.
7. darthfoley - He did so well D1 - I need to read him more -
10. VayneAuthority - I want to believe in Rayn's meta read on you - from what I've obs'ed - it's rarely wrong, but he isn't perfect either.
5. Nooniansoong - he is nothing but one liners. I'm happy to vote him.
4. mderg - I'm his D3 mislynch from my view - speaks very little about me and now would be happy to lynch me. I still don't like his late vote d1 - the vet's say it's NAI, ehh, Milo bit me in the ass before on this.

I'll give you 3 guesses for why I'd be happy lynching you. Hint: it's not because you're my D3 mislynch
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 15 2016 10:16 GMT
#1280
On January 15 2016 19:12 GiygaS wrote:
Koshi you're green. I'm an idiot for checking you, I know.

You could have done worse. With this at least Tubesock's narrative about koshi is pretty much disproved.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 15 2016 23:50 GMT
#1297
On January 16 2016 08:33 nooniansoong wrote:
Hello?!
ANYONE THERE!
Damn it's like im the only one playing this game.

I have to admit you're funny
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 16 2016 16:14 GMT
#1306
Not sure but kush right now feels a bit more like he just doesn't give a fuck. scott looks a bit more scummy to me.
I wouldn't blame anyone for voting kush, though.

##Vote scott
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 18 2016 15:46 GMT
#1361
Last scum is probably scott.
##vote scott
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 18 2016 22:01 GMT
#1373
noon's filter tells me it's one of eden/scott/darth

I don't think it's eden, so most likely scott or darth. scott would really fit into the flow of the game, so I'm sticking with him for now.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 18 2016 22:50 GMT
#1377
On January 19 2016 07:37 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 07:01 mderg wrote:
noon's filter tells me it's one of eden/scott/darth

I don't think it's eden, so most likely scott or darth. scott would really fit into the flow of the game, so I'm sticking with him for now.

explain like any of this


You come to mind because of this:
On January 12 2016 21:25 nooniansoong wrote:
Scumteam Eden mderg for post game bragging rights though

When scum give names like that I feel like there's often a buddy in them. There's also not much interaction between you two in this game. You appear to want to solve the game, though. So I don't think you're scum.


darth because of this:
On January 13 2016 03:46 nooniansoong wrote:
Defense of darthfoley:
First thing is his first game and he uses a lot of reasoning and explains his thought process in a way that I wouldn't expect a first game player to even come close to faking. Yes, a lot of his arguments are bad (scumread on koshi for starting discussion), but I think bad arguments like that commonly come from noobs.

Changing your read a lot day 1 strikes me as a very townie thing to do. Scum pick a suspect then go with it. His reads show he is thinking about things and changing his mind based on the arguments people are presenting.

And he mentioned boxerfred only because he was asked about him.

Mostly because he writes "Defense of darthfoley" which does not sound natural at all. I think he defended darth for quite some time.


I think there's been enough said about scott. He would fit in perfectly into the theme that scum had absolutely no control of any lynch whatsoever this game. That's why I'm going with him.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 18 2016 22:50 GMT
#1378
On January 19 2016 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
I better vote at least. Lynch mderg after I flip town, someone do vca, you really think it was scum vs scum on the last day?

Don't you think there are better lynch options than me?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 18 2016 23:03 GMT
#1379
Eden, why the ninja vote?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2016 09:43 GMT
#1404
On January 19 2016 08:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 07:50 mderg wrote:
On January 19 2016 07:37 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 19 2016 07:01 mderg wrote:
noon's filter tells me it's one of eden/scott/darth

I don't think it's eden, so most likely scott or darth. scott would really fit into the flow of the game, so I'm sticking with him for now.

explain like any of this


You come to mind because of this:
On January 12 2016 21:25 nooniansoong wrote:
Scumteam Eden mderg for post game bragging rights though

When scum give names like that I feel like there's often a buddy in them. There's also not much interaction between you two in this game. You appear to want to solve the game, though. So I don't think you're scum.

Show nested quote +
Scumteam Eden mderg

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 04:15 nooniansoong wrote:
scumteam is between eden/scott/vayne/mderg

[image loading]


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On January 19 2016 07:50 mderg wrote:darth because of this:
On January 13 2016 03:46 nooniansoong wrote:
Defense of darthfoley:
First thing is his first game and he uses a lot of reasoning and explains his thought process in a way that I wouldn't expect a first game player to even come close to faking. Yes, a lot of his arguments are bad (scumread on koshi for starting discussion), but I think bad arguments like that commonly come from noobs.

Changing your read a lot day 1 strikes me as a very townie thing to do. Scum pick a suspect then go with it. His reads show he is thinking about things and changing his mind based on the arguments people are presenting.

And he mentioned boxerfred only because he was asked about him.

Mostly because he writes "Defense of darthfoley" which does not sound natural at all. I think he defended darth for quite some time.

You think he did.
Well... did he?
And why does that matter? You can go look at the very beginning of kush's filter and see him address like five straight townies and then start defending giygas too. Giygas flipped cop.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 07:50 mderg wrote:
I think there's been enough said about scott. He would fit in perfectly into the theme that scum had absolutely no control of any lynch whatsoever this game. That's why I'm going with him.

Let's have fun and assume I had a greencheck on scott and just revealed it right now. What do you do then?

good job bolding my name there, well done. He tried to pressure me several times over the course of the game, while he barely mentioned you at all. I'd say that's quite a difference.

Seriously?
I don't seem to remember him writing "Defense of Giygas" though. His defence of darthfoley was much more committed than the other defenses.

I'd lynch the fuck out of you because the cop has already flipped. That potential scenario doesn't make sense at all.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2016 09:47 GMT
#1405
On January 19 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
The biggest mistakes he made are his really fake scumreads. Which all boil down on things people do that are odd. But never really scummy. It's never clever.

That's exactly what I meant D1 with my initial scumread on him.
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