EPT((Yeah, sure, I'll work on it.))
Also writing many words does not get you townread, not for me, and shouldn't for anyone else either.
lol
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Eden1892
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((Yeah, sure, I'll work on it.)) lol | ||
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If anybody tr's me for posting lots of words, and not for the quality of those words, then they're probably scum or at least lazy town who should be accused to push them into playing better. | ||
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On January 09 2016 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: GiygaS - town slOosh - scum mderg - town Nooniansoong - town boxerfred - null Tubesock - scum Koshi - town VayneAuthority - town GGTeMpLaR - null Kmatt - null Is there anything we disagree here? I purposely left darthfoley out because you are questioning him and i don't wanna affect that regardless of my read on him. u the real mvp 4 the bold homie. I like these: GiygaS - town slOosh - scum Tubesock - scum Koshi - town boxerfred - null Kmatt - null though with the caveat that Koshi got some explaining to do about this noonian thing. I have next to zero opinion on any of Vayne, mderg or noonian. Put a gun to my head and I say "Vayne is town" and "I don't fucking know about the other two, put that gun down bro." Only thing I see you saying about mderg so far is a tentative town read on him. I think mderg has said nothing to make me feel either way about him. You call him town, is that still "tentative" or did something solidify that for you that I didn't see? Same question with kushoonian actually. | ||
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On January 10 2016 03:13 darthfoley wrote: The reasons I said that were because of the Noon vote, and because I thought he was really trying hard to sway rayne's townread on Sloosh in a way that seemed a bit suspicious. It wasn't that much to go on. Just woke up so i'll get up to date with the thread, but I wanted to make sure I responded to this Ok. So, you felt the Noonian vote and the attempt to sway ray's vote was suspicious. In what way(s) were they so? I don't care that you have decided Koshi isn't suspicious anymore, I just want to know why you felt he was so I may evaluate your alignment. | ||
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Eden1892
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(1) Why is it suspicious that Vayne generated a lot of discussion about somebody without, in your estimation, contributing a lot himself? (2) Why does giving town and scum reads make boxerfred town but not several other people in the thread (including Vayne) town as well? And to give an answer for once  -- a named VT is unique so they can claim and be confirmed town without a counterclaim | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:37 Tubesock wrote: @Eden - I did think the thread was heading in the towning people for too dumb to be mafia reasons. Also I posted to post. At the time there really wasn't anything I felt compelled to respond to. Easy town reads Reyn, Eden, SloOsh, Nooniansoong GGtemplar I didn't like his first like 5 posts but he looks a lot better this morning. Koshi while gives me some weird scuzzies I am not willing to lynch him. Vayne I am not willing to lynch either. I like his tone. the rest haven't said anything I found interesting or memorable. I have to work today and have Christmas dinner tonight but after that I'll be in thread. Please explain the bolded -- I'm afraid I don't follow. GGTemplar's first five posts began around the time you made your comment about dumb tells, if you thought they were suspicious then how did you not find them worth responding to? And I hope you aren't telling me that you've managed to narrow your lynch pool to five people day 1, but also have nothing to say about those five people. Why are mderg, Kmatt, GiygaS, darthfoley, and boxerfred outside of this pool of townreads? | ||
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I townread darth and do not want to lynch him. I think his answers to my questions were prompt, and while I don't particularly like a couple of his reads, I was more concerned with seeing how well he would defend them under scrutiny. He has done so to my satisfaction -- it's clear that these reads are coming from someone who is actively thinking about the game instead of from someone trying to appear as though he was. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:48 darthfoley wrote: May I ask for your reads so far Eden? I'm fine with the amount of questions/direction of the questions, but can I get a (short) summary of what conclusions you've drawn from these questions? You're town. Tubesock is probably mafia and has my vote for the moment. I thought slOosh was mafia earlier. I thought his post looking at reactions to the events transpiring around him, and discussing the people he thought reacted in a way that was out of place, was a pretty good post though. There's a few other thoughts, but they aren't substantive enough to be worth bringing up right now. | ||
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Combined with his demeanor (basically see... I think ray's description earlier) -- he's being very direct and unambiguous with his reads, too inflexible to be mafia keeping his options open and yet too flexible to be tunneling mafia -- and he's probably town, certainly not the lynch today. | ||
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On January 10 2016 08:03 darthfoley wrote: TR = ? Town reading | ||
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On January 10 2016 15:26 Tubesock wrote: ##Vote: GiygaS GiygaS should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. His case if he were town would include things like how I scum claimed, bitched and whined about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when I was called out for it I bailed scummily. That I have 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe I was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe. If you are going to make a case, it should be something like Tubesock's Tubesock is mafia case. Not, wow we have the same reads but Tubesocks town reads are so weird! There is plenty to case me on beyond just what Darth has said without needing to parrot the most active posters. As someone who is currently voting you and is quite interested in lynching you today, how would you explain the above to me to be coming from a townie instead? Being conscious of the problems with your play thus far makes me more inclined to kill you, rather than less (as I figure was the intended effect) -- I'm not really impressed with the "X is scummy because he called me scummy for ABC reasons, when you should be scumreading me for XYZ reasons" argument, I'd rather just kill you for XYZ (and maybe ABC) and sort out X later. | ||
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On January 10 2016 16:30 slOosh wrote: Eden, what do you think about Tubesock's point that GiygaS had more or less the same townreads as Tubesock, yet cites his townreads as the reason for voting Tubesock? It's interesting, a pretty reasonable read. But I would still rather kill Tubesock, as that's the only thing he's posted (as of me typing this) that's left me willing to consider not killing him, and as I already thought GiygaS was pretty solidly town. What do you think? | ||
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Eden1892
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I still have a distinctly separate, stronger, desire to kill you, in no small part for the behavior you ascribed to yourself. Perhaps you're missing my point. Your argument about GiygaS is reasonable. To this outside observer who already believes he's town and you're scum, it's not compelling enough. Why should I switch my vote? | ||
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I thought he was town because I thought his entrance was solid. Just going to quote myself on it: I like that this player, right from the start, was thinking about how to gain additional info about the setup. I think the answer to this question is "no" -- we don't need the information this early, and saving it until later may allow for a much bigger blowout if the hypothetical Named VT ends up under fire or the mafia get involved in some claims fiasco -- but I think looking toward this immediately at the game start is correct, as we were given additional relevant information to start the game (the four possible setups), and GiygaS immediately began thinking about how to maximize the use of this information. I looked at the rest of the filter for this player, and GiygaS is talking to what seems like half of the thread (and almost all of the active players), throwing early reads out and being willing to defend them on concrete (at least for 8 hours into day 1) grounds. That said, I'd certainly acknowledge that GiygaS had a significant drop-off in thread interaction since then, which weakens the read to some extent. In tandem with your argument (which I think is reasonable), it's enough to give me pause. I'm going to decline answering the rest of your questions for now, because I can think of a reason why town!GiygaS would do that, but I'm not going to fill that answer in for him. He'll have to explain himself without me giving him a freeroll. GiygaS: What do you mean when you say that Tubesock's townreads were weird? Why do you think they're weird when your views seem to be very similarly aligned to his? | ||
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On January 10 2016 17:00 GiygaS wrote: That would have helped, when your filter is that short its hard to say much else when there's basically nothing else in your filter. There's nothing of substance in that except for that post, and the one just now where you scum read me because I scum read you for the wrong reasons. Er, can you answer his question? "That would have helped" isn't an answer, and the rest of this is noise for the purpose of answering him. | ||
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