lol. Typical Kush to actually type in the thread he didn't know he could frame mafia.

Best one was still when he asked in the thread who liked to play mafia right before he as mafia turned a townie into a mafia with some alignment changing mechanism.

Koshi

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January 16 2016 23:56 GMT

#1324

So rayn was right about Kush. Pretty sick read. I didn't believe it at all.

Koshi

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January 16 2016 23:59 GMT

#1325

I guess we need to reread GGtemplar? Or not?
Maybe somebody can do it.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 01:38 GMT

#1330

So mderg went from boxerfred to Kush D1. Hmm. Probably not mafia. Even though Kush his filter kinda incriminate him.

From reading Kush filter it is:
Scott
mderg
VA

and darthfoley is town.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 01:39 GMT

#1331

I think lynching scott is win.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 01:46 GMT

#1332

Not that VA is making things easy.. Why did you vote 40 minutes after you came into this thread saying "If kush is town ..."

Koshi

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January 17 2016 02:05 GMT

#1334

Not really true. At this point I don't know if you prefer Scott/Eden/darthfoley.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 02:12 GMT

#1337

On January 13 2016 03:46 nooniansoong wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 12 2016 05:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will write my quick thoughts incase I am vigged, don't want to invest too much time obviously when its super possible ill just die.

The most likely mafia I can deduct from voting analysis and a follow up of his filter is darthfoley

You will see that Tubesock was most likely the mafia mislynch of choice, kinda sure he is town. When the 2nd vote drops onto boxerfred, tubesock is sitting at 3 votes. starting to get close. then darthfoley goes ahead and votes for tubesock to make it a comfortable 4-2. But what you can't account for as mafia is a last second large swing like that resulting in boxer's lynch. It is a very suspicious and well timed vote on his part.

Follow that up with gems like this from his filter

On January 10 2016 05:35 darthfoley wrote:
1) I think it's scummy to generate discussion and then pop out because it seems helpful, all while staying under the radar without much concrete reasoning.

2) At the time I made my post, I'm pretty sure VA had only thrown out one name in the whole thread: Sloosh as scum read. Boxerfred has been more holistic in his approach to Q&A to Koshi and others imo. I haven't looked through Tubesock's or any of the less active posters yet.

See part 2, boxerfred literally has almost no filter besides 1 post. He hasn't looked through any of the less active posters but says boxerfred is a shining example of being holistic? Soft defense that you wouldn't technically even realize you are doing as a mafia partner.

Now look through his voting pattern, he flip flops on me and tubesock at the slightest change of wind to try to appear as if he is mulling his options but really he doesnt care that either of us is lynched, they are both mislynches for him. Thread support was the only thing that ever swayed his opinion.

Finally, this is more of tells for me instead of mafia play but his first page is a lot of feigning ignorance with mechanics of the game to generate filter and even tells us about stuff he is doing irl which I largely associate with mafia attempting to lighten mood/make them appear more likable.

cya at deadline Maybe.

Defense of darthfoley:
First thing is his first game and he uses a lot of reasoning and explains his thought process in a way that I wouldn't expect a first game player to even come close to faking. Yes, a lot of his arguments are bad (scumread on koshi for starting discussion), but I think bad arguments like that commonly come from noobs.

Changing your read a lot day 1 strikes me as a very townie thing to do. Scum pick a suspect then go with it. His reads show he is thinking about things and changing his mind based on the arguments people are presenting.

And he mentioned boxerfred only because he was asked about him.

scumvayne:
This is the level of try hard I would expect from scumvayne on d2: the minimum necessary to look townie. He does a simple vca which is NAI. and then he does a very surface reading of darthfoley's filter and misrepresents him to look scummy.

hmm. I wonder if this is a hard defense.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 02:14 GMT

#1338

On January 13 2016 04:15 nooniansoong wrote:
scumteam is between eden/scott/vayne/mderg

There is no darth. I don't think Kush would not put his mafia partner here.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 02:38 GMT

#1339

On January 17 2016 11:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
gut says eden but people saying he is locked in town/town meta

game flow says darth

so i guess darth.

Can you tell me why you don't think it is scott?

Koshi

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January 17 2016 16:01 GMT

#1346

On January 17 2016 17:31 Eden1892 wrote:

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Educate me on how kush's statements incriminate mderg. I don't really see it.

Or rather, I think I see the argument you would use to say this, but I'm not sure it isn't wifom-y.

I think mderg's vote switch makes 0 sense from mafia standpoint. The only value added to killing kush over boxerfred is that you get to save the better role, but boxerfred was pretty MIA and not likely to survive very long anyway. kush could at least try to defend himself maybe (even though he chose not to do so here, I'm sure he could have done it if he chose to do it).

Also, help me feel better about darthfoley being town, I'm settled in on it but would like somebody to knock it out of the park for me so I don't have this nagging feeling about it anymore.

It had something to do with Kush saying mderg was scummy for something I didn't think was that scummy. Kush his filter looks pretty "correct' so him finding something scummy that isn't might be TMI?

Koshi

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January 17 2016 16:02 GMT

#1347

darthfoley being town... I don't know.

I just think kush wouldn't hard defend his partner so hard + attack VA for making a case on darthfoley. That is a bold move in a game in whuch he didn't play bold at all.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 16:03 GMT

#1348

All these are things I take out of Kush filter. It is 100% Wifom.

Koshi

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January 17 2016 16:06 GMT

#1349

How is it your birthday Eden? 1/8/1992 is not today? I also take it your birthday was the 8th of January then? Damn Americans.

Anyway.

Happy late Birthday?

Koshi

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January 18 2016 00:34 GMT

#1354

It's Scott or VA for me. Mderg gets a free pass today because he voted mafia(s) D1 in an odd way.

Kush had a bit of a boner for VA this game. 4-5 comments or cases just for VA.

Koshi

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January 18 2016 00:36 GMT

#1355

Why is VA not considering scott at all? It seems really out of place. I also have this stupid idea that mafia thought scott was medic and sloosh was fakeclaiming or something.