OUTLAW MINI MAFIA

On December 24 2015 20:10 GlowingBear wrote:


That's what she said

On December 28 2015 01:48 ExO_ wrote:


and who's your mason partner?

On December 28 2015 01:51 ExO_ wrote:


So why not just say it?

On December 28 2015 02:21 Coagulation wrote:
anyone else have any questions for me before I fuck off?

On December 28 2015 02:23 ExO_ wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Coagulation

If you can't be arsed to read the thread, answer any questions, or add to the game at all why the fuck are you here. Please go fuck off

On December 28 2015 02:31 Coagulation wrote:


I can discuss it with my imaginary mason partner.

On December 28 2015 02:36 Holyflare wrote:
tbh I've ignored NESS since his defence, and the GB thing was just rehashing and asking questions that I already asked but he's not a real scum read either.

Ness could be mafia but there's too many inactives for me to really give a shit, I just wanna play hots ^^

On December 30 2015 01:31 Koshi wrote:
Onegu,

I read your filter. Are you again trying this game? Because everybody you claim is mafia is town. Well.. you only said something about sicklucker and rsoultin.

On December 30 2015 07:45 Onegu wrote:
C u Later

On December 30 2015 08:26 Koshi wrote:
w.e

town can do what they want.

I actually log off.

This is the fucking worst shit I ever saw.

On January 02 2016 08:11 Alakaslam wrote:
What the hell kind of buttshit modding pauses the game and then resumes minutes before vote

On January 05 2016 01:12 sicklucker wrote:
Me obi dandred and palmar are the new cool kids club

On January 06 2016 07:58 Damdred wrote:
Hi guys, it's that time of game again.

Town:
Damdred-obvious
Coag- confirmed

Shining- Shining is hard to read and he hasn't been super emotional this game. But when he has been active his somewhat questioning feels towny to me, his tone sounds that way as well. Now his recent exchange with eco reeks of his town meta, the guilt trip part especially I 100% believe he was feeling guilty and upset to a degree. He can't fake this as scum he's town.

Palmar- I want to tinfoil him and you should question him and press him for information as the game goes along. But his inability to leave the thread and his continued even after saying bye to post portrays town motivation even if he does get frustrated. His reads list during the day was helpful and seemed town palmar.

SL- so I think he's town so you should lynch him at some point soon Lolo. Seriously SL is probably town this game he seems to think about thinks in a convoluted way ( this isn't oddensive) that can only come from town SL I think. Also the way he forgets people I think portrays town and that dumb tell he didn't mean to do.

This is actually extremely difficult to Poe down at this point. But.

I feel like NM current postings/tinfoil/activity level betrays a sense of town agenda behind what he is saying. Also gb was sunk so trying to get people to shenanigans onto slam when he could of taken some easy cred and was armed up to planar in the process makes me think he is town. Now if he drops off and doesn't contribute anything he is worth another look here.

Kush is most likely town here. He does have some major issues like his vote is generally outliner and hi a reads to a point on rels/tt/palmar just seem way to good, but he could just be having a great game. I like to think it's the latter and he is having a food game, the activity level and the questioning and what not make me think town. But the push off gb onto slam makes me hesitant a bit.

Ritojy is probably town as well I want to hedge on him a bit though. The shot on moosey wasn't bad but usually he listens more. And gave his vote away during eod but didn't act on it. He did get hurt so some of it could be that, but something is nagging at me here that he is the scum that is getting away with it for some reason. But he does have good reasoning why onegu is town and has seemed to,have a town mindset before now.

This leaves me with

Exo
Trfel
Slam
Ows
Oo

Out of these I am leaning town on eco for pre mentioned reasons and he is just going against so many people. But giving away his vote yesterday was interesting. And I still think Townish.

Obi I think is probably scum, he isn't going against people and is trying not to,stand out. I really feel like he is scum, hi a vote yesterday 100% put him in a good light and went with everyone. He's not going against anything or fighting making strange decisions which he does as town. Its to clean he is scum.

Slam is Poe and I wouldn't lynch him tommorow.

Trfel is strange I want to town read him especially since rsoultin tells me to in her filter meh. Don't lynch trfel just a feeling plus his wanting to apologize to,me,and not wanting to fight with,me was town. I'm clearly wrong in one of my towns.

I'd lynch Obi probably.

On January 06 2016 10:13 Damdred wrote:
Why not trfel kush

On January 06 2016 10:38 nooniansoong wrote:


pretty sure he's town

On January 07 2016 06:21 ExO_ wrote:
I think Onegu is scum. His fake claim bullshit on day 2 has let him slide by like Damdred. Only unlike Damdred he hasn't done anything since then. His filter is 4 pages long, and he has 1 post on the 4th page. He's not doing anything. On day 3 he switched off of Slam and went to GB (this is true of OO and SL as well). If I work with the assumption that Onegu is scum it leads me to the following scum team:

Onegu
Shining
Slam
Kush

Day 3
Kush parks his vote on Slam and never moves it at all. Shining votes for GB, and Onegu moves from Slam to GB. GB never throws his vote on slam (inexplicably). This gets GB lynched, and protects slam for another day.

I think slam is a scum with a role, and I think we should lynch him today.

##Vote Alakaslam

On January 08 2016 00:12 nooniansoong wrote:


why do you assume town will let this game get to lylo?

On January 09 2016 08:21 nooniansoong wrote:
let's plynch onegu

On January 09 2016 08:22 ExO_ wrote:









Ladies and Gentlemen, the scum trio

On January 09 2016 08:23 nooniansoong wrote:
so it's lylo right? please solve the game for me onegu.
I'm thinking onegu/exo/shining/ritoky as possibilities.

On January 09 2016 08:24 nooniansoong wrote:
onegu the funny thing is you have good instincts and your reads are really good but there's no way to tell if you're town or not so you can't be trusted.

On January 09 2016 08:26 ExO_ wrote:


we're at 7-3 now, there's 10 players left not 12

On January 09 2016 08:27 nooniansoong wrote:


i was kidding about plynching onegu. i think.

On January 09 2016 08:28 The Shining wrote:


Bolded

On January 09 2016 08:33 ExO_ wrote:
Onegu sell me on you being town. What are your thoughts on NM's post? Is Palmar Scum? Kush? Ritoky?

Fake Claim Day 2: Mind you, Tictock didn’t help himself here but given stage of the game, could have easily drawn out real cop given the very player he had outed with after “checking”, a player was likely to get lynched anyhow based on thread sentiment. Koshi had called outing extremely suboptimal. The effect of redchecking Tictock in reading through Day 2 and looking back, led town down a rabbit hole.

On January 09 2016 08:50 ExO_ wrote:


I literally just asked for your opinion. I asked you to sell me on being town, and like Palmar instead of addressing that you try to shift the discussion away.

I think I've made it pretty clear I'm town this game. And I'm fairly certain every single scum in this game will have been town read by a town player at some point. What matters is how we react each day to accumulated information not giving people like you or Palmar a pass because someone town read you at some point in the first 2 days.

On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't.

On January 09 2016 09:13 ExO_ wrote:


I'm scumming you b/c of how little you've done during the game. Like out of all the people here you've done just about the least in regards to solving the game. Ironically if not for the fake claim I wouldn't have any doubt in my mind. The fake claim doesn't make sense on the surface from a scum perspective. But everything else tells me you're scum.

On January 09 2016 09:17 ExO_ wrote:


NAI = ?

Either way then I would say you should play differently. If you're telling me to rely on what other players meta read you as, when I feel like you are scum, it's not going to happen.

On January 09 2016 09:39 Coagulation wrote:
so theres absolutely no excuse for palmar being alive at this point in the game if hes town.

On January 09 2016 09:47 Damdred wrote:
I'm sort of halfway sold on kush being town still hrmm

On January 06 2016 04:40 sicklucker wrote:
Obi is still my boy hes done nothing to not deserve mt tr
Dandred is probably town I think going against that is game losing
I would gamble onegus town
Palmar is town for sure but he should be suspect some if he does not die i think. But there is a rolecop so they could leave him around knowing hes vt or something weird
I think oo is kinda town and gb spewed him as well
Kush probably deserves a town read

Scums probably tref/slam/exp/ritoky that seems right to me but im not 100% positive on any of them

On January 10 2016 05:01 nooniansoong wrote:
onegu, that is actually some very townie paranoia.
Although I think OWS is a check. It's not just that one quote.
And we both know OWS's contributions aren't huge and knowledgeable so this must be a check.

Palmar is town for sure

On January 05 2016 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
Hum so we lynch exo tormorow

On January 05 2016 08:05 sicklucker wrote:
exo and trefels mafia equity shot through the roof today as well

On January 10 2016 05:50 ExO_ wrote:


Onegu I can't help but feel like you're tossing sand in the air and hopping it hits something. Trying to make out like SL really hard read town on Palmar, while simultaneously doubting how hard he read obi is really a huge stretch. I think you're scum trying desperately to stop a lynch on your scum buddy

On January 14 2016 08:01 Damdred wrote:
That makes exo interesting

I'm not sure what the right lynch is today.

Exo/Onegu/Kush Tell me out of you three who we should lynch today and why please with some form of reasoning.

On January 14 2016 08:13 Damdred wrote:
You aren't giving us anything tow ork with or to town read you with onegu so put in the work and maybe it will be exo we will see.

Why not kush over exo?

On January 14 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote:
So exo and who then onegu? There have to be two mafia.

Its never shining here with how confirmed mafia ritoky was going after him.

On January 14 2016 09:33 nooniansoong wrote:
damdred im a trillion percent sure it's onegu and shining. See my posts during the last day.

On January 14 2016 12:02 Damdred wrote:
It is funny onegu instantly goes to scum exo for scumming him for no reasons.

but when kush foes it he doesn't bat much of an eye

On January 15 2016 03:23 nooniansoong wrote:
palmar - 20 pages
damdred - 18 pages
me - 15 pages
exo - 15 pages
shining - 10 pages
onegu - 6 pages

On January 16 2016 05:46 nooniansoong wrote:


does it conclude that i'm scum?

On January 16 2016 14:28 ExO_ wrote:
LOL @ this video Onegu. Clearly Ritoky counted claimed to save his scum buddy me, :sarcasm:

Are you serious?

Is this some kind of desperate scum video to mislynch me at the end?

On January 16 2016 14:33 ExO_ wrote:


That'd essentially be trading 2 scum for 1 person. Do you really think it'd be logical? Think about this for a second. Scum fake claim to save another scum, don't you think that the risk is greater than the reward in this scenario? EVERYBODY believed ritoky's fake claim. He wasn't even remotely on the table. And yet instead of bussing me he outs himself?

It doesn't make sense at all from this perspective. Like I can't tell if you honestly believe this case, or are just trying to get town to lynch me and win the game for you and your scum buddy.

On January 17 2016 07:31 Palmar wrote:
Tbf even if exo is mafia you didn't find him

On January 17 2016 07:39 ExO_ wrote:
If we mislynch here do we lose 100%? how does it work with even numbers?

On January 17 2016 07:42 ExO_ wrote:


I'm not fucking scum, and if you aren't either you need to start figuring out who could be really fast

On January 17 2016 07:48 Palmar wrote:
I am on phone and quite drunk by now so don't count on me for shennies

On January 17 2016 08:12 ExO_ wrote:


What's weird is I'm 100% sure the timer had hit 0. I was f5ing, saw it hit 0, then posted fuck Palmar. Came back and look at he had voted.

But I'm sure the timer hit 0 on my screen

On January 17 2016 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

maybe you should have listened to his scumbuddy who pointed that out and was kind enough to re-post the video starting from where the scumslip happens........................................

On January 17 2016 08:15 ExO_ wrote:
Now that it's over, why not let me die? Was trading for the JK really worth it? It doesn't seem like it would be in my book

On January 17 2016 08:17 Rels wrote:

Yep because one save / kp block -> one more mislynch needed for town loss

On January 17 2016 08:26 ExO_ wrote:
Also now that its over, onegu are you really 1.9k mmr?

On January 17 2016 08:58 ExO_ wrote:


Sorry JAT, not everyone can be as intelligent at mafia as you.

But fuck off seriously. This rounabout way of patting yourself on the back while insulting others sucks

On January 18 2016 07:39 Holyflare wrote:


A lot of it is knowing the players and that comes from just experience with playing with them. Being unsure of your reads is really good though despite what you may think. The only downside to being unsure is that you need to understand when you're just being paranoid and that paranoia is taking over or when it's being unsure because they do something that you consider goes against your initial read.

The thing with being afraid of damdred was straight up paranoia (and not necessarily a bad thing) but when that kicks in you need to affirm your read all over again, figure out what made you think he was town to begin with and see if that still holds true and if he's constantly reaffirming that town read.

Secondly, when it gets towards end game you need to start thinking in different ways. You should at this point have a list of people you town read and reasons for town reading them, if that reason for town reading them is based on an action they did at one point in the game or you town read them for very minimal reasons that's a good time to rethink that person.

You also need to look at motives and who started doing what at what part of the game, mafia towards the end of the game are INTENT and hell bent on getting their mislynches. They are the people that aren't really looking at things logically per se and just surface level throw out "oh x and y are scum" or "oh maybe i'm wrong and it's z!" and don't really give a shit or are the people that heroically just push an easy to lynch guy. Townies will tend to look at all angles and rethink things and be totally unsure and paranoid (like you were experiencing) but not be so surface level.

Unless you play with shitters then gl!

On January 18 2016 09:21 Palmar wrote:
Also, I really want to emphasize the fact Onegu made a shitty video with a massive scumslip and fucking "We are the champions" playing in the background and didn't get lynched.

We need to get the 2016 awards thread up for TT's blooper on his claim and for clearly best scumteam.