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Any particular reason why or is this just "muck feta" rhetoric? | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote: Lol im just gonna call you town <3 for the day Because? | ||
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On December 27 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote: Caught up tothe thread yet ows? Youre spinning your wheels it looks like Nope. I've read like two pages and won't be up-to-date until later. | ||
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I kind of want to call Ness town as well, for his giant in-depth defense post. | ||
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On December 27 2015 13:18 Holyflare wrote: This game is pretty boring, everyone that posts a lot is relatively towny and the rest can go die in a mafia fire. D: | ||
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Instead, I'll be catching up right now. | ||
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I'm going to vote tictock because his filter is basically a bunch of empty nothingness. Rayn's points on his readslist were solid and I'm going to roll with that. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote: Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor. That sounds fantastic. I'm going to double check some stuff. | ||
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I like my vote where it is atm. | ||
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They were quite upset after he flipped so I'm not sure we can really read into him being bad all that much. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: actually about every game to be exact... lol | ||
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On December 28 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote ObiWanShinobi y | ||
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On December 28 2015 11:39 nooniansoong wrote: Hi ows long time no see. I'm kush btw. I can see why artanis is voting you. You look bad for similar reasons to trfl Yeh. | ||
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No, that doesn't really sound right. | ||
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On December 28 2015 11:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Wait, tt? No, that doesn't really sound right. @maybekush: Can you explain this? | ||
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On December 28 2015 12:11 nooniansoong wrote: Why does tt look bad? Ask the people who are scumreading him. I believe, ows, you said tts posts are empty..something like that. Your posts are pretty empty too. Your content is similar to tt in its length and depth. I disagree that they're similar, for relatively obvious reasons. | ||
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On December 28 2015 15:29 Trfel wrote: Looks like I'm in for a very late night. As of 30 pages ago, my reads were far too similar to sicklucker's for my liking, it seems like something is very wrong. Any particular reason why or is the fact that they're similar the thing that's bugging you in and of itself? | ||
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Any particular reason why? I'm not sure this quote means much and I'm pretty vain about stuff like that. | ||
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On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand. I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic. Thinking this might actually make you mafia ftr. | ||
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On December 28 2015 23:40 nooniansoong wrote: Can you be precise about what you didn't understand? I'm going to answer your question with a question - why is it relevant? | ||
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You got me. | ||
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On December 29 2015 00:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm too lazy to read the backstory to artanis' case Obi, can you tell me why he thinks you're mafia? I asked him to explain something. | ||
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Catching up. | ||
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I do feel like Hf is probably town but it's rather tentative atm. | ||
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On December 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: would still vote gb ftr ![]() Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning. | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:26 Trfel wrote: Does anyone want to lynch nooniansoong here, or should I give up? I've considered it a few times but I'm not willing to do it today. | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote: ............................... are you actually mafia? Huh? | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:40 Holyflare wrote: I just gave TT an out and he isn't taking it D: this has been a point of contention about five times this game and it's been pointed out he's kush each of those times I might have just missed it then. Most of my play thus far has been me skimming during work and training breaks. /shrug | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:42 Rels wrote: Caught up. Sheeping rayn ##Vote TT Really?/ | ||
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I'm unhappy about your sudden arrival, mostly. | ||
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Silly Rels. | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:53 Rels wrote: True this is bad. But I don't remember OWS doing stuff recently, so him being "really" at a sheep post after Damdred said the same thing is suspicious to me. It only makes sense if TT is scum though. This actually makes even less sense. | ||
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Hrm. | ||
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We can deal with this at night then. | ||
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I'll be back later to probably talk about stuff. | ||
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On December 29 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote: btw. ows is gona be mafia and we lynched rels for saying retarded shit about a mafia. murphy. ![]() | ||
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Lame. Whatever I'm leaving byeeeeee. | ||
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On December 29 2015 15:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Personal lynch candidates for tomorrow:
But whyyyyyyy. | ||
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It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now. | ||
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On December 29 2015 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: And we should fucking murder Vivax straight up. Just fucking lynch him. He is either jailkeeper or he is mafia, there is no other option. If he does not die during the night we lynch him, period. Is he still doing the thing where he's playing around with his claim? | ||
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If I get a gun I am 100% shooting Tictock or Moosey, but I highly doubt I'll get one which is fine. I'll be trying to follow along at work again but I have nothing to do this evening so I'll try to consolidate some thoughts during the dayphase when I inevitably don't get shot. | ||
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Normally I just ignore people tunneling me for terrible reasons but the point I raised earlier still stands: On December 29 2015 16:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?" It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now. I still think this is totally irrational and scummy. | ||
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Assuming a bus for no good reason is nothing more than an excuse. | ||
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On December 30 2015 00:03 Vivax wrote: If two scumreads of yours scumread each other the good reason for assuming it''s a bus would be that they're you're scumreads? How is this "good" reasoning, might I ask? This sounds like the type of excuse logic I was just talking about. | ||
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On December 30 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote: Myself Rofl. | ||
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![]() I am disappoint. | ||
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Heyooo. | ||
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It feels fantastic. | ||
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On December 30 2015 08:39 Tictock wrote: Actually I'm being stupid, I'm not miller. Still, lynch Onegu when I flip. There is no way his claim is legit. Haha wow. | ||
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On December 30 2015 10:03 Holyflare wrote: No you lynch BF 100% after TT Sure, don't need to tell me twice. | ||
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On December 30 2015 13:33 ObviousOne wrote: and finally regarding moosy and his also-suidical level of play i say we have someone with a gun shoot him or we just pretend he doesn't exist. it's dawning on my how many people are giving so few fucks in a non-banlist game, the last time i was in this scenario was a caller game where everyone had guns. This is normally what happens when we have lots of lynches ready for people. It might pick up a bit in the morning though. | ||
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On December 31 2015 02:02 Trfel wrote: For the record.... Tictock is 100% mafia and gets lynched here no matter what. Even if Damdred rescinds his gunsmith claim, five people counterclaim Onegu's cop claim, and Onegu posts baby seals, Tictock is STILL mafia and STILL gets lynched. Saying this is relatively unnecessary. | ||
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Much sadness. | ||
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Fine, see you all in about a day. | ||
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On January 02 2016 01:20 ExO_ wrote: 6.5 hours to go, man this day feels like it's taking forever Yeh. | ||
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I'll get back on track after some FNM. | ||
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On January 02 2016 08:44 ritoky wrote: ....really? ...like REALLY? I know. :/ Nothing we can do about it now except salvage this atrocity. | ||
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I just perused OO's, Shining's, and Vivax's filters and haven't had issues with any of them. Considering Palmar is so high up on everyone's lists and I townread him earlier, can someone explain to me why everyone thinks he's so scummy? I'll be checking this thread intermittently throughout tonight but I'll try to respond to whoever is still trying to do things. | ||
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Can you elaborate more? | ||
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On January 02 2016 08:59 The Shining wrote: What changed between this and your last post? I thought your scramble after the lynch was towny. My initial thought process regarding you was that you were relatively robotic and forgettable. Your recent accusation of slam seemed slightly better than what I read of you in the past but that's all I have wrt a read on you. | ||
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On January 02 2016 09:03 ritoky wrote: basically palmar says "i am sheeping rayn cuz i am not really playing this phase". rels comes back and does a bunch of shit that was bad. i start discussing shennanies onto rels koshi votes rels i say gogogo in the thread i go to voting thread palmar has already voted rels i go to palmar's filter palmar has no read on rels, no read on koshi, and no read on me. why does town palmar not sheep rayn onto his case or a policy vote on a claim/unclaim, but instead follows a no-read onto a no-read? Maybe. I need to consider this. | ||
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It doesn't seem like a super strong case to me. | ||
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I need to dwell on it. My mind is firing in like 7 different directions wrt Palmar. | ||
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I'll be back/around at points. | ||
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On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote: Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum. Elaborate pls? | ||
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On January 02 2016 22:13 sicklucker wrote:obi- your just gonna have to trust me on this one. I have played alot of games with him and for him his contributions are huge and knowledgeable Not really. | ||
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Not a fun thing to admit but it is what it is. | ||
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iirc your earlier read on me was centered on the fact that I voted Tt but he wound up flipping town. How exactly does that read still carry over? | ||
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On January 02 2016 19:23 Trfel wrote:ObiWanShinobi + Show Spoiler + He's just.... not doing anything at all. He's not making any useful thoughts, he's not being commanding, he's just following the lead that everyone else is providing. He's just doing whatever, not trying to solve the game. One example of this is ObiWanShinobi's read on boxerfred. He initially said that people scumreading boxerfred for doing nothing is bad, because boxerfred did nothing and got mislynched for it as town. However, when boxerfred continued to be useless, Holyflare said that he wanted to lynch boxerfred on Day 3, and ObiWanShinobi said that he agreed without mentioning boxerfred in between. I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing. | ||
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On January 02 2016 23:02 nooniansoong wrote: Trfel shining exo slam look like mafia ows oo maybe mafia Probably forgetting about some peeps. Just because nks scumread palmar doesn't mean palmar is dcum. That seems to be the scumteams primary argument for lynching him. How so? Can you elaborate on why we shouldn't lynch Palmar? On January 02 2016 23:58 ObviousOne wrote: sleep deprived mafia team based on not very much effort but it's up to date, i'll try to do better when i come back ows vivax one of sl or slam one of noon or palmar maybe gb could prob eliminate one more name if i was caffeinated enough but i doubt it. thought about comparing this list to the dead guys filters from n1 maybe when i wake up tonight. from memory palmar was suspect but the rest i dont remember off the top of my empty skull Why to any of these? | ||
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On January 03 2016 00:31 sicklucker wrote: Like this is from page 2-3 of your filter. Everypost is a question or important statement compared to your afk/lurk give up and do nothing mafia meta this is when I got that read ill admit you been slacking since but your still town I think several people would contest you on my "do nothing" mafia meta. But otherwise, fine I guess. | ||
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On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote: Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything. I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.) I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter. | ||
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On January 03 2016 00:43 ExO_ wrote: and how do you know scum isnt going to shoot you? Nobody ever shoots me, especially not after how lazy I've been recently. | ||
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On January 03 2016 09:06 nooniansoong wrote: I hate figuring out mechanics stuff. I'm really against killing Palmer today. I think slam is a good lynch that people can agree on. Why not Palmar? | ||
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Too apathetic to be town. I'm going to write out a case when I get home since I'm going to try to pull quotes and such. | ||
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On January 03 2016 10:03 nooniansoong wrote: Ows I think he's scum but he's harder to lynch than slam. I can make a slam case at some point I think. Hard to lynch is a myth. Ride with me and help me claim Trfel's head. | ||
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I'll go take a look at it and point out why. | ||
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I'll just continue my Trfel campaign and maybe I'll die before I have to think about Palmar some more. | ||
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On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote: I don't understand why people don't want to lynch nooniansoong. He's not doing anything, he's just existing. Seriously, he's not invested in the game at all, just going with the flow. It's the same thing as ObiWanShinobi and Palmar. If people are pushing town all the time (Vivax, Tictock, Rels, Tictock again), why does mafia need to do anything? Mafia will sit back and go with it, let town argue about it. That's what nooniansoong, ObiWanShinobi, and Palmar have been doing this entire time. I definitely see Damdred's point about NocturneMage, however I felt that N e s s's play seemed like town, and I'm not yet comfortable reading NocturneMage from these posts. The contrast is also a bit weaker because this is a much, much larger game than the last one NocturneMage replaced into. I'll take another look at Alakaslam, but my impressions from his filter weren't aligned with most of the things that ritoky was saying. So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred. If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well. Stuff it scumsack. | ||
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I was voting Tt pretty much the entire time so it's untrue. Even if it wasn't, bf still would have been a fantastic lynch for being useless. | ||
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On January 03 2016 12:31 The Shining wrote: How can I help you when you respond to me once and then leave? =/ I also just remembered a decent amount of my TR on Trfel was based on the red check being real and Trfel hard aligning with TT, which wouldn't happen with both being scum. But TT was blue so that goes out of the window. Obi, what makes Trfel scum? When can I expect your case? You can expect it tomorrow. I already explained why I thought he was scum (he's relatively apathetic). Got called in late so now I'm stuck here fiddling with my phone and I can't post much of worth when I need quotes and such until tomorrow, so. | ||
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On January 03 2016 12:33 Trfel wrote: That is nothing like what I said at all. Nice reading comprehension. Sorry TS, busy. Yes it is. | ||
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On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote: So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred. If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well. It's literally what you said. I'm quoting it from your own post. | ||
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On January 03 2016 12:47 The Shining wrote: Yeah I'm not sure where the disconnect is here. I think he's saying when you said you'd be willing to lynch BF, you having other scumreads would make you suspicious. And you said you were scum reading TT. So you did have at least one other scumread. But he called you out on reading comprehension? What did I miss? I'm also sort of confused, so I'm asking. Sort of off topic, but did he seem somewhat annoyed to you? He seemed sort of annoyed while he was here. | ||
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His annoyance makes him far more likely to be town, fyi. | ||
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On January 03 2016 14:51 ritoky wrote: obi do you think i am mafia? Not really? | ||
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On January 03 2016 14:56 ritoky wrote: I am asking if you think I am mafia to both of you because I would like you to explain why I wasn't roleblocked when I was clearly trying to feign that I was shooting between damdred and onegu. Why is that shot allowed through if onegu is mafia? No offense, but I don't know and I don't really care that much. This isn't really relevant towards me at all. | ||
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On January 03 2016 23:50 nooniansoong wrote: 3. Onegu - maybe scum 8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) - maybe scum 9. Exo_ - definitely scum 15. Glowingbear - probably not scum 17. Trfel - definitely scum 19. The Shining - definitely scum 24. Alakaslam - maybe scum Why on Exo/GB? And explain Trfel to me too pls. | ||
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Okay, thanks. | ||
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On January 04 2016 01:01 sicklucker wrote: Have you ever played with onegu nocturnemage? I think I have roleswapped with him twice before. its like all he does. Fakes power roles If he's town and we lynch him, maybe he'll stop doing it. | ||
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On January 04 2016 02:24 Damdred wrote: Wouldn't it be interesting to start lynching Palomar today and make him play super hardvtommorow to get a read off him Yes. | ||
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On January 04 2016 04:31 nooniansoong wrote: Some quotes I found that help me think palmar is town. There's more but this is enough. This is a very good observation against rels that was made in the heat of the moment. ~~~ OK his kush read is terrible but palmar always has shit-tinted glasses when looking at me. He goes a few levels deep on his artanis read. He makes a clever and original point against GB. I don't understand what was so towny about his Rels observation. | ||
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On January 04 2016 22:39 sicklucker wrote: Ah man palmar is so town it hurts Yeah. Still catching up but his reads list looks fantastic. | ||
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Will be at pc before deadline. | ||
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Give me one second. | ||
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I can roll with this - it beats a Palmar lynch any day. | ||
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On January 05 2016 06:46 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, why am I being votes? iirc being too backgroundy. Palmar did some stuff that I thought was towny so I left him alone and voted you. | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:03 Palmar wrote: Glowingbear I've had an issue with glowingbear since day 1. Remember I talked about my townread on Exo which then blew up into an argument between us two (this particular part of the game is also involved in my feelings about kush). During this argument, Exo made precisely the point that GB makes in his question and I responded to it. There is no way GB was attentively reading that conversation to come up with that question, he just threw it out there. In fact, go to glowingbear's filter, like half of it, especially on day 1 is just him asking random questions without really following them up or giving any explanations to his thoughts while asking. I can quote quite a few: Like I get trying to get people to explain things, but at some point you're just inflating your post count. Which brings me neatly to my next point: Glowingbear has a 10 page filter, 7 of which are from day 1. He has basically dropped off the face of the earth (which sort of fits him being mafia, because with tictock fumbling his claim the game is actually going splendidly for mafia. He's not doing anything, he's been combative but isn't actually trying to get people to do his bidding. Even today he seems to barely care who gets lynched. GB is perfectly capable of pushing things in later days, I've seen him do it. When he has conviction to do something he usually just does it, yet he is barely even trying this game. If you guys don't believe me go read christmas carol and compare his push on holyflare in that game to his push on holyflare or me this game. Does none of this mean anything to you? | ||
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On January 05 2016 07:51 Trfel wrote: I think Alakaslam is also probably going to flip town, but I feel that GlowingBear will be more able to prove his alignment to everyone. GlowingBear, please be town ![]() ObiWanShinobi is still mafia, though ![]() Shut up already. | ||
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If you guys want to get on my case because I voted with someone I thought was town, go for it. I'm perfectly content ignoring you. | ||
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On January 05 2016 07:55 GlowingBear wrote: DUDE VOTE OWS You know what's funny? The last time you tried some last minute shenannies on me, you were mafia. I'm feeling pretty good right about now. | ||
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Yeah, but whatever though. | ||
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On January 05 2016 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You know what's funny? The last time you tried some last minute shenannies on me, you were mafia. I'm feeling pretty good right about now. Actually best meta. | ||
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On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote: technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up. either way, checking slam: fantastic idea. Slam is lynchbait and a terrible check. Someone like Trfel/OO/Exo might be more plausible. | ||
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On January 05 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote: acualy the last time me and palmar were both town and crushed mafia he posted a similar gloat post I believe it was some chick flipping everyone off? Ya hes always gonna be town Didn't you actually vote off wagon and into lala land that game for some reason? | ||
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On January 05 2016 08:34 sicklucker wrote: Na me and palmar were the first two mafia nks so we were def crushing together. meh not important just gloating =] Didn't you claim a role or something? My memory is hazy. | ||
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On January 05 2016 08:41 sicklucker wrote: ya obi i was acualy thinking of two games. The first game was where palmar posted that and something weird was happening because i replaced onegu so I forget what happened there. But a week later we were in another game and I acualy posted that gif after I saved palmar and got gb lynched something thats the game I was talking about. So i was confused w/e Uh huh. | ||
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On January 06 2016 00:57 Palmar wrote: fuck it I'm actually going away see you tonight maybe. If I don't come back, don't lynch sl, damdred, onegu and ritoky. Probably don't lynch NM and maybe don't lynch exo. lynch into slam, shining, oo maybe ows It's super important to remember the people who are not doing jack shit or just show up to randomly say things when it's convenient. It's almost a good idea to just lynch shortest filter first tbh. Awh. | ||
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Go do something else. | ||
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Little has happened in the interim. | ||
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On January 06 2016 12:48 ObviousOne wrote: guys that ows vote sodoge i've been mentioned a handful of times in his 8 page filter and suddenly i'm scum enough to vote immediately with 0 justification or mention welcome to being me srs now, bed time I was green checked you useless dunce. | ||
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On January 06 2016 12:55 The Shining wrote: You know... A couple of posts, about a day, before this post, OWS claimed he'd write up a case on Trfel. That case never happened. And then OWS asked Noon to explain to him why Trfel was definitely scum. Why would he be asking why Trfel was scum if he already thought Trfel was scum and planned on making a case unless he knew he was town and therefore couldn't come up with a case? Hm I never wrote out my reasoning and can't expect someone to think the exact same thing I do without knowing why. Not to mention that I was actually townleaning Trfel at that point. | ||
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Narrow your search a bit more beyond that. | ||
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Shows me to not read stuff, doi. Ignore meeeeeee. | ||
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On January 07 2016 09:05 ritoky wrote: outside of mechanics i kinda agree with this. doesn't onegu tend to actually enjoy being mafia more than town? idk his filter isn't really filled with enjoyment tbh, it kinda trends more toward the pissy/not caring side which is the townier side of when he is inactive if i remember right. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Onegu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=Onegu&page=5 i just see a lot more joy in these games than onegu has in the current one (he is scum in both of these) Maybe. | ||
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On January 07 2016 09:32 nooniansoong wrote: wait a second what if obi is godfather ![]() | ||
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Well okay then. I'ma vote Slam since more people are voting him. | ||
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On January 08 2016 05:29 The Shining wrote: The vote count looks bad btw. Votes just piled on Slam. Obviously I'll look like shit if he flips scum for saying this but is this really a bus? I guess I just feel weird because all my scum reads are voting Slam and 3 of my town reads aren't voting yet. It doesn't matter if slam isn't doing anything. | ||
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On January 08 2016 06:27 ritoky wrote: obi, what about oo should i focus on? The fact that he's mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:31 The Shining wrote: I like how our confirmed town is risking mod kill He does that. | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:28 nooniansoong wrote: if i were you guys i would probably think I was scum. My PoE now looks like oo ows onegu alakaslam who are all basically lynch bait. Must be wrong. I probably towned EXO too easily today. NM does have a sick scum game as evidenced from that last newbie but this looks different. Still green checked lalala. | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:42 The Shining wrote: I really hope the gf flips in Slam or someone else tomorrow so I can believe you're 100% town. You keep using this as your main defense and it's starting to irk me =/ Yeah I'm actually godfather. Oh well - you got me. | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:54 The Shining wrote: Lol all I'm saying is I'd like more from you than "I'm green checked." And once gf flips, I can put this to rest I'll step up eventually, probably when I stop having fun or something. | ||
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So is OO. I can see ExO being a third. I base all of these things on absolutely nothing. | ||
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On January 08 2016 08:14 ExO_ wrote: Holy shit why am I scummy now? Jesus Christ its like a rotating door. I really hope it's scum coming in here trying to push suspicion on me yet again, and not townies. OWS since you are all but confirmed town at this point please listen. I'm not scum. idk what to do but I don't want to lose the game later on b/c confirmed towns scum read me and ended up pusing me. I don't feel strongly about anyone being scum right now. | ||
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On January 08 2016 08:17 NocturneMage wrote: Hey everyone, this was after the GB lynch and before the cop flipped. Remember this? ![]() This might be valuable information though. I know for a fact Palmar hates checking lynchbait so him saying this and Slam consequently flipping godfather looks pretty significant. | ||
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On January 08 2016 08:54 nooniansoong wrote: o rly? why would you hate checking lynchbait... lynchbait seems like the perfect thing to check. It's Palmar's general line of thinking as town. I agree with it, which is why it's weird that he didn't think it this game. And, coincidentally, he tells people to check the lynchbait godfather of all things? | ||
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On January 08 2016 21:32 Palmar wrote: OWS is not correct, I always, always encourage checking low activity players who feel like a coinflip. Checking or shooting them. iirc you got mad at hopeless for checking someone like that in that other game. | ||
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On January 08 2016 21:16 nooniansoong wrote: Palmer can you defend the point nm made against you earlier? You directed checking slam. You are known to not like checking lynchbait players according to ows. This isn't exactly what I asked, ftr. | ||
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Much lameness. | ||
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Right? | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:41 Damdred wrote: Atually it can be if the godfather hasn't flipped yet. Its like saying, hey this guy is green checked but i'm sort of worried about it because I don't know where the godfather is quite yet so look into it later. It is possible palmar was checked if you read SL filter and his read progression he goes, light scum palmar->Heavy Scum (n1)->still thinks scum (d2)->Scum reads palmar more (n2)-> town reads palmar. This isn't to say that its definitive at this point in time that palmar was green checked, but its just as likely that palmar was green checked especially by the progression in SL read. We don't know what SL checks are for all we now it could of been ME+HF or exo+ows. We should parse what we have and go from there, me personally just reading sl filter its a bit likely that Palmar wasn't the check necessarily but I think there are a good bit of things in the thread that make palmar town. What is the point of this post? | ||
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I don't get it. | ||
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I'd imagine Jat sent it to the database like that because Jat. | ||
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But two pages guys? Bleehhhhhh. I wish Hf was still alive or something. | ||
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Someone clarify what I'm supposed to be seeing because idgi. | ||
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On January 10 2016 21:11 Palmar wrote: I still think we need to lynch Exo. Here's the short version of the reason: Almost everything he says is based on looking at facts, not why they happened. He thought I was mafia because reasons... other peopel said I was? I can't remember Then I lynched mafia, suddenly I am not mafia. NOT because he believed my case on Gb (he didn't read it), but simply because a guy I voted flipped red. Then I become mafia again because of I don't quite know why. I think it's because slam happened to be mafia too. The point is, he doesn't care WHY things happens. He seems to have this flowchart of when it's correct to do something according to his plan and he just executes it without looking into it. To point it out clearly, it's 100% irrelevant if GB flipped mafia or town. The result in my alignment based on that day should be considered in how genuine and solid my case was and if I pushed it in a townie or scummy way. I wouldn't have magically been mafia if I had been wrong on GB, I'd simply have been wrong. In addition, he has multiple times this game accused me of being mafia for doing townie things. An example is like this: "Palmar is mafia because he talked himself out of a lynch". The problem is that, he implies that the ONLY way I could possibly be town is if I let myself become lynched. IE: my alignment, is predetermined and not concluded based on evidence. This all makes perfect sense to me. | ||
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It doesn't make any sense. | ||
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I can't really find any other course of action worth following instead. | ||
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Come on. | ||
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On January 11 2016 04:13 Damdred wrote: Just been a busy day at work slowly catching up. Well not much to catch up with. There are a couple teams I'm playing with but I might lynch exp today. Rit might be ok to hrm Explain or link pls? | ||
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On January 11 2016 07:03 Damdred wrote: Why's that obi? Rit why me over SL or palmar after we lynched gb? I hate it when people try to be clever with hiding their roles. | ||
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On January 11 2016 08:06 ExO_ wrote: We're going to lose this game b/c of Coag. Coag being a non-partcipant is going to let scum win this game :/ There are a number of reasons why town is likely going to lose this game. Coag is probably one, but saying we lost simply because of him is untrue. | ||
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On January 17 2016 09:50 Palmar wrote: There is a lot of dumb rage in the Obs QT. People seem to forget that watching isn't the same as engaging. When Damdred is alive and Koshi isn't, I'll try to build my "towniness" in a way that I think will persuade damdred, and not give a fuck what might persuade koshi. I didn't just kill people who were right, I killed people who were right or I had little chance of convincing based on the state of the game. It's about systematically destroying leadership and initiative in town. I'm actually sort of more proud of this performance than when I just get everyone to townread me, because it's a more roundabout way of winning as mafia. My team played very well, thanks for a fun team guys. GG everyone I agree. Scumteam deserved the win and town didn't. WP all. | ||
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On January 18 2016 02:16 Holyflare wrote: Moral of this game just like every other. Stop fucking fake claiming. And no damdy yours wasn't bad tbh but if no one fake claimed in general shit like this game wouldn't happen. +1 | ||
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