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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 24 2015 03:02 GMT
#59
Room for one more?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 24 2015 03:05 GMT
#61
Okay, so.../in?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 24 2015 05:14 GMT
#67
##vote moosey
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 03:40 GMT
#494
Hi.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 03:49 GMT
#502
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.


Any particular reason why or is this just "muck feta" rhetoric?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 03:51 GMT
#504
On December 27 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.


Lol im just gonna call you town <3 for the day


Because?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 04:05 GMT
#513
On December 27 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:
Caught up tothe thread yet ows? Youre spinning your wheels it looks like


Nope. I've read like two pages and won't be up-to-date until later.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 04:06 GMT
#515
Rayn is town.
I kind of want to call Ness town as well, for his giant in-depth defense post.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 04:20 GMT
#528
On December 27 2015 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
This game is pretty boring, everyone that posts a lot is relatively towny and the rest can go die in a mafia fire.


D:
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 04:32 GMT
#538
Gb are we gonna be battle buddies this game?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 14:34 GMT
#734
Went to sleep when I thought I'd be catching up.
Instead, I'll be catching up right now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:05 GMT
#777
Alright, I'm caught up.
I'm going to vote tictock because his filter is basically a bunch of empty nothingness. Rayn's points on his readslist were solid and I'm going to roll with that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:08 GMT
#784
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:09 GMT
#786
On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:
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On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax?


Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off.

Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it.

DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD


SOOOO BAD


We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:14 GMT
#794
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:16 GMT
#795
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:20 GMT
#801
Fwiw BF posting nothing is reminiscent of some game where he was town and people lynched him for doing it.
They were quite upset after he flipped so I'm not sure we can really read into him being bad all that much.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 15:22 GMT
#807
On December 28 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
actually about every game to be exact...


lol
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 27 2015 19:48 GMT
#1122
I still want to vote Tictock though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 02:30 GMT
#1256
On December 28 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote ObiWanShinobi


y
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 02:35 GMT
#1258
Because I'm town.
:>
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 02:40 GMT
#1262
On December 28 2015 11:39 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi ows long time no see. I'm kush btw.

I can see why artanis is voting you. You look bad for similar reasons to trfl


Yeh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 02:41 GMT
#1263
Wait, tt?
No, that doesn't really sound right.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 02:51 GMT
#1267
On December 28 2015 11:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Wait, tt?
No, that doesn't really sound right.


@maybekush: Can you explain this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 03:21 GMT
#1274
I approve of the most recent ritoky post and have moved him into my town pile accordingly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 06:21 GMT
#1298
Dude, who is Waylanner? Is that even a real player?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 06:23 GMT
#1299
On December 28 2015 12:11 nooniansoong wrote:
Why does tt look bad? Ask the people who are scumreading him.

I believe, ows, you said tts posts are empty..something like that. Your posts are pretty empty too. Your content is similar to tt in its length and depth.


I disagree that they're similar, for relatively obvious reasons.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 06:36 GMT
#1301
On December 28 2015 15:29 Trfel wrote:
Looks like I'm in for a very late night.

As of 30 pages ago, my reads were far too similar to sicklucker's for my liking, it seems like something is very wrong.


Any particular reason why or is the fact that they're similar the thing that's bugging you in and of itself?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 14:34 GMT
#1406
On December 28 2015 15:59 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax?


Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off.

Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it.

DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD


SOOOO BAD


We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now.


I like Obi a little this game...

I guess.


Any particular reason why? I'm not sure this quote means much and I'm pretty vain about stuff like that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 14:37 GMT
#1408
On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.

Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand.
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.

I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic.


Thinking this might actually make you mafia ftr.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 14:48 GMT
#1412
On December 28 2015 23:40 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.

Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand.
On December 28 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.

I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic.


Thinking this might actually make you mafia ftr.


Can you be precise about what you didn't understand?


I'm going to answer your question with a question - why is it relevant?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 15:38 GMT
#1449
Palmar is not scum though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 17:59 GMT
#1571
On December 29 2015 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 00:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Palmar is not scum though.

tmi, scum.


You got me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 18:00 GMT
#1573
On December 29 2015 00:41 Palmar wrote:
So I'm too lazy to read the backstory to artanis' case Obi, can you tell me why he thinks you're mafia?


I asked him to explain something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 21:29 GMT
#1834
I'm back until deadline.
Catching up.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 21:45 GMT
#1844
I'm caught up. I have little to add that isn't rehashing stuff.
I do feel like Hf is probably town but it's rather tentative atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 21:53 GMT
#1853
On December 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
would still vote gb ftr ego boost ho!


Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:34 GMT
#1922
On December 29 2015 07:26 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone want to lynch nooniansoong here, or should I give up?


I've considered it a few times but I'm not willing to do it today.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:36 GMT
#1929
Oh btw, I really don't think noon is kush but maybe I'm just a crazy person.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:38 GMT
#1932
On December 29 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh btw, I really don't think noon is kush but maybe I'm just a crazy person.


...............................

are you actually mafia?


Huh?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:41 GMT
#1942
On December 29 2015 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
I just gave TT an out and he isn't taking it D:

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh btw, I really don't think noon is kush but maybe I'm just a crazy person.


...............................

are you actually mafia?


Huh?


this has been a point of contention about five times this game and it's been pointed out he's kush each of those times


I might have just missed it then. Most of my play thus far has been me skimming during work and training breaks.
/shrug
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:44 GMT
#1953
On December 29 2015 07:42 Rels wrote:
Caught up. Sheeping rayn
##Vote TT


Really?/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:47 GMT
#1962
On December 29 2015 07:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:42 Rels wrote:
Caught up. Sheeping rayn
##Vote TT


Really?/

What do you mean ?


I'm unhappy about your sudden arrival, mostly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:52 GMT
#1984
I'm actually laughing irl.
Silly Rels.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:54 GMT
#1992
On December 29 2015 07:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:52 Koshi wrote:
21/20 people voting for the same target and Rels his case is:

"OWS thinks I am mafia for voting with him"

True this is bad. But I don't remember OWS doing stuff recently, so him being "really" at a sheep post after Damdred said the same thing is suspicious to me. It only makes sense if TT is scum though.


This actually makes even less sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:56 GMT
#1998
I'm super tempted to just up and do it, tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:57 GMT
#2006
On the other hand I kind of want to just up and kill Tictock.
Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:58 GMT
#2009
Vc?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 22:58 GMT
#2011
Meh, it's not gonna happen.
We can deal with this at night then.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 23:09 GMT
#2027
lol
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 23:11 GMT
#2034
I'm okay with that lynch just because of how hilarious it was.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 23:14 GMT
#2043
I'm heading off to the gym.
I'll be back later to probably talk about stuff.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 23:29 GMT
#2068
On December 29 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote:
btw. ows is gona be mafia and we lynched rels for saying retarded shit about a mafia.

murphy.


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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 23:40 GMT
#2074
I love how I'm on both of Hf's lists.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 28 2015 23:50 GMT
#2077
Oh.
Lame.
Whatever I'm leaving byeeeeee.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 02:41 GMT
#2101
Dude that scumlist is gigantic.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 07:05 GMT
#2123
On December 29 2015 15:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Personal lynch candidates for tomorrow:
  • Ritoky
  • ObiWanShinobi
  • TicTock
  • HolyFlare


But whyyyyyyy.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 07:06 GMT
#2125
At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?"
It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 07:07 GMT
#2126
On December 29 2015 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And we should fucking murder Vivax straight up. Just fucking lynch him. He is either jailkeeper or he is mafia, there is no other option. If he does not die during the night we lynch him, period.


Is he still doing the thing where he's playing around with his claim?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 14:23 GMT
#2296
Good morning.
If I get a gun I am 100% shooting Tictock or Moosey, but I highly doubt I'll get one which is fine.

I'll be trying to follow along at work again but I have nothing to do this evening so I'll try to consolidate some thoughts during the dayphase when I inevitably don't get shot.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 14:37 GMT
#2300
Oh btw, I think Artanis is mafia as well.
Normally I just ignore people tunneling me for terrible reasons but the point I raised earlier still stands:

On December 29 2015 16:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?"
It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now.


I still think this is totally irrational and scummy.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 15:02 GMT
#2304
On December 29 2015 23:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh btw, I think Artanis is mafia as well.
Normally I just ignore people tunneling me for terrible reasons but the point I raised earlier still stands:

On December 29 2015 16:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?"
It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now.


I still think this is totally irrational and scummy.


No it simply means hes assuming a bus?


Assuming a bus for no good reason is nothing more than an excuse.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 15:09 GMT
#2308
On December 30 2015 00:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 00:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 29 2015 23:59 Vivax wrote:
On December 29 2015 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh btw, I think Artanis is mafia as well.
Normally I just ignore people tunneling me for terrible reasons but the point I raised earlier still stands:

On December 29 2015 16:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?"
It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now.


I still think this is totally irrational and scummy.


No it simply means hes assuming a bus?


Assuming a bus for no good reason is nothing more than an excuse.


If two scumreads of yours scumread each other the good reason for assuming it''s a bus would be that they're you're scumreads?


How is this "good" reasoning, might I ask?
This sounds like the type of excuse logic I was just talking about.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 17:52 GMT
#2434
On December 30 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:
Myself


Rofl.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
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December 29 2015 17:53 GMT
#2435
This game is hilarious.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
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December 29 2015 22:35 GMT
#2517
You're unoriginal.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 22:43 GMT
#2522
No read on me?

I am disappoint.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 22:52 GMT
#2528
Sweet, now I can go back to my Artanis read.
Heyooo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 23:09 GMT
#2541
Huh.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 23:26 GMT
#2569
EHEHEHEHEHEHE
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 23:27 GMT
#2577
Hf I think this is the game where we finally team up and don't fight all game.
It feels fantastic.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 29 2015 23:43 GMT
#2605
On December 30 2015 08:39 Tictock wrote:
Actually I'm being stupid, I'm not miller.

Still, lynch Onegu when I flip.

There is no way his claim is legit.


Haha wow.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 30 2015 01:02 GMT
#2707
Why do people think Shining is town again? Someone remind me because he's a likely day 3 lynch candidate imho.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 30 2015 01:20 GMT
#2710
On December 30 2015 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
No you lynch BF 100% after TT


Sure, don't need to tell me twice.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 30 2015 05:18 GMT
#2754
On December 30 2015 13:33 ObviousOne wrote:
and finally regarding moosy and his also-suidical level of play i say we have someone with a gun shoot him or we just pretend he doesn't exist.

it's dawning on my how many people are giving so few fucks in a non-banlist game, the last time i was in this scenario was a caller game where everyone had guns.


This is normally what happens when we have lots of lynches ready for people.
It might pick up a bit in the morning though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 30 2015 17:10 GMT
#2861
On December 31 2015 02:02 Trfel wrote:
For the record....

Tictock is 100% mafia and gets lynched here no matter what. Even if Damdred rescinds his gunsmith claim, five people counterclaim Onegu's cop claim, and Onegu posts baby seals, Tictock is STILL mafia and STILL gets lynched.


Saying this is relatively unnecessary.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 30 2015 22:39 GMT
#2955
Yeah I pretty much have nothing to do until TT flips.
Much sadness.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 31 2015 03:27 GMT
#2996
If I laugh again I'm pretty sure that laughing would comprise exactly half of my filter.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 31 2015 14:35 GMT
#3031
So we're actually doing the New Years thing?
Fine, see you all in about a day.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 17:08 GMT
#3046
On January 02 2016 01:20 ExO_ wrote:
6.5 hours to go, man this day feels like it's taking forever


Yeh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 23:37 GMT
#3162
That's disappointing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 23:42 GMT
#3166
My knee jerk reaction is to say kill Onegu but I'm still being incredibly lazy.
I'll get back on track after some FNM.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 23:45 GMT
#3168
On January 02 2016 08:44 ritoky wrote:
....really? ...like REALLY?


I know.
:/

Nothing we can do about it now except salvage this atrocity.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 23:55 GMT
#3174
I lied, I'm actually still here.
I just perused OO's, Shining's, and Vivax's filters and haven't had issues with any of them.

Considering Palmar is so high up on everyone's lists and I townread him earlier, can someone explain to me why everyone thinks he's so scummy?

I'll be checking this thread intermittently throughout tonight but I'll try to respond to whoever is still trying to do things.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 23:57 GMT
#3178
I do remember people saying stuff like "he's not trying to solve the game" but that's mostly rhetoric and a ton of people haven't been doing anything recently.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 01 2016 23:58 GMT
#3179
Ritoky I don't understand what you're trying to shoot for with your bottom quote.
Can you elaborate more?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 00:02 GMT
#3187
On January 02 2016 08:59 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 10:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why do people think Shining is town again? Someone remind me because he's a likely day 3 lynch candidate imho.


What changed between this and your last post?


I thought your scramble after the lynch was towny.
My initial thought process regarding you was that you were relatively robotic and forgettable. Your recent accusation of slam seemed slightly better than what I read of you in the past but that's all I have wrt a read on you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 00:03 GMT
#3190
I agree that Trfel post looks weird.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 00:05 GMT
#3192
On January 02 2016 09:03 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 08:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ritoky I don't understand what you're trying to shoot for with your bottom quote.
Can you elaborate more?


basically palmar says "i am sheeping rayn cuz i am not really playing this phase".

rels comes back and does a bunch of shit that was bad.

i start discussing shennanies onto rels

koshi votes rels

i say gogogo in the thread

i go to voting thread

palmar has already voted rels

i go to palmar's filter

palmar has no read on rels, no read on koshi, and no read on me.

why does town palmar not sheep rayn onto his case or a policy vote on a claim/unclaim, but instead follows a no-read onto a no-read?


Maybe. I need to consider this.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 00:07 GMT
#3193
Mehhhhhhhhhhhh.
It doesn't seem like a super strong case to me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#3195
I don't know.
I need to dwell on it. My mind is firing in like 7 different directions wrt Palmar.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#3196
Okay I'm seriously going to fnm now.
I'll be back/around at points.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 07:25 GMT
#3285
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:18 GMT
#3306
On January 02 2016 22:13 sicklucker wrote:obi- your just gonna have to trust me on this one. I have played alot of games with him and for him his contributions are huge and knowledgeable


Not really.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:19 GMT
#3307
I don't mind that you townread me but my contributions being super useful is completely untrue.
Not a fun thing to admit but it is what it is.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:20 GMT
#3308
I think I might join in with Hf and ask how you came to that conclusion actually?
iirc your earlier read on me was centered on the fact that I voted Tt but he wound up flipping town. How exactly does that read still carry over?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:21 GMT
#3309
On January 02 2016 19:23 Trfel wrote:ObiWanShinobi
+ Show Spoiler +
He's just.... not doing anything at all.

He's not making any useful thoughts, he's not being commanding, he's just following the lead that everyone else is providing. He's just doing whatever, not trying to solve the game.

One example of this is ObiWanShinobi's read on boxerfred. He initially said that people scumreading boxerfred for doing nothing is bad, because boxerfred did nothing and got mislynched for it as town. However, when boxerfred continued to be useless, Holyflare said that he wanted to lynch boxerfred on Day 3, and ObiWanShinobi said that he agreed without mentioning boxerfred in between.


I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:23 GMT
#3310
On January 02 2016 23:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Trfel shining exo slam look like mafia
ows oo maybe mafia

Probably forgetting about some peeps.

Just because nks scumread palmar doesn't mean palmar is dcum. That seems to be the scumteams primary argument for lynching him.


How so?
Can you elaborate on why we shouldn't lynch Palmar?

On January 02 2016 23:58 ObviousOne wrote:
sleep deprived mafia team based on not very much effort but it's up to date, i'll try to do better when i come back

ows
vivax
one of sl or slam
one of noon or palmar
maybe gb

could prob eliminate one more name if i was caffeinated enough but i doubt it.

thought about comparing this list to the dead guys filters from n1 maybe when i wake up tonight. from memory palmar was suspect but the rest i dont remember off the top of my empty skull


Why to any of these?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:35 GMT
#3314
On January 03 2016 00:31 sicklucker wrote:
Like this is from page 2-3 of your filter. Everypost is a question or important statement compared to your afk/lurk give up and do nothing mafia meta this is when I got that read ill admit you been slacking since but your still town


I think several people would contest you on my "do nothing" mafia meta.
But otherwise, fine I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:42 GMT
#3316
On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?


Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them

As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything.


I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.)

I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:54 GMT
#3320
On January 03 2016 00:43 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 00:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote:
On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?


Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them

As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything.


I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.)

I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter.


and how do you know scum isnt going to shoot you?


Nobody ever shoots me, especially not after how lazy I've been recently.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 22:41 GMT
#3357
I'm just going to assume Trfel is confirmed mafia from here on out considering how badly he's playing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 00:32 GMT
#3378
On January 03 2016 09:06 nooniansoong wrote:
I hate figuring out mechanics stuff.
I'm really against killing Palmer today. I think slam is a good lynch that people can agree on.


Why not Palmar?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 00:39 GMT
#3379
I'm still hyper inclined to lynch Trfel, btw.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 00:49 GMT
#3381
On January 03 2016 09:41 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 09:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still hyper inclined to lynch Trfel, btw.


cuz?


Too apathetic to be town.
I'm going to write out a case when I get home since I'm going to try to pull quotes and such.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 01:25 GMT
#3383
On January 03 2016 10:03 nooniansoong wrote:
Ows I think he's scum but he's harder to lynch than slam. I can make a slam case at some point I think.


Hard to lynch is a myth.
Ride with me and help me claim Trfel's head.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 01:45 GMT
#3387
Honestly I could also say "screw it" and kill Onegu as well.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:12 GMT
#3429
There was one specific Palmar post that I also didn't like and I don't need my computer to pull it up.
I'll go take a look at it and point out why.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:13 GMT
#3430
Meh, I took a look and I'm not sure if it's important or not anymore.
I'll just continue my Trfel campaign and maybe I'll die before I have to think about Palmar some more.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:24 GMT
#3436
On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:
I don't understand why people don't want to lynch nooniansoong.

He's not doing anything, he's just existing. Seriously, he's not invested in the game at all, just going with the flow.

It's the same thing as ObiWanShinobi and Palmar. If people are pushing town all the time (Vivax, Tictock, Rels, Tictock again), why does mafia need to do anything? Mafia will sit back and go with it, let town argue about it. That's what nooniansoong, ObiWanShinobi, and Palmar have been doing this entire time.

I definitely see Damdred's point about NocturneMage, however I felt that N e s s's play seemed like town, and I'm not yet comfortable reading NocturneMage from these posts. The contrast is also a bit weaker because this is a much, much larger game than the last one NocturneMage replaced into.

I'll take another look at Alakaslam, but my impressions from his filter weren't aligned with most of the things that ritoky was saying.

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 00:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 02 2016 19:23 Trfel wrote:ObiWanShinobi
+ Show Spoiler +
He's just.... not doing anything at all.

He's not making any useful thoughts, he's not being commanding, he's just following the lead that everyone else is providing. He's just doing whatever, not trying to solve the game.

One example of this is ObiWanShinobi's read on boxerfred. He initially said that people scumreading boxerfred for doing nothing is bad, because boxerfred did nothing and got mislynched for it as town. However, when boxerfred continued to be useless, Holyflare said that he wanted to lynch boxerfred on Day 3, and ObiWanShinobi said that he agreed without mentioning boxerfred in between.


I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing.
So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred.

If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well.


Stuff it scumsack.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:28 GMT
#3437
Actually I'm going to go out and respond to it because why not.

I was voting Tt pretty much the entire time so it's untrue.
Even if it wasn't, bf still would have been a fantastic lynch for being useless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:35 GMT
#3440
On January 03 2016 12:31 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 12:20 Trfel wrote:
The Shining, please be town, and please help me.

If my reads are horrible and stupid, or don't make people scum, please tell me. And if it's just that they don't make people scum, if you could explain why, that would be great?


How can I help you when you respond to me once and then leave? =/ I also just remembered a decent amount of my TR on Trfel was based on the red check being real and Trfel hard aligning with TT, which wouldn't happen with both being scum. But TT was blue so that goes out of the window.

Obi, what makes Trfel scum? When can I expect your case?


You can expect it tomorrow.
I already explained why I thought he was scum (he's relatively apathetic).
Got called in late so now I'm stuck here fiddling with my phone and I can't post much of worth when I need quotes and such until tomorrow, so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:35 GMT
#3441
On January 03 2016 12:33 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 12:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually I'm going to go out and respond to it because why not.

I was voting Tt pretty much the entire time so it's untrue.
Even if it wasn't, bf still would have been a fantastic lynch for being useless.

That is nothing like what I said at all. Nice reading comprehension.

Sorry TS, busy.


Yes it is.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:44 GMT
#3444
On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:

Show nested quote +
I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing.


So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred.

If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well.


It's literally what you said.
I'm quoting it from your own post.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 03:49 GMT
#3449
On January 03 2016 12:47 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 12:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:

I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing.


So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred.

If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well.


It's literally what you said.
I'm quoting it from your own post.


Yeah I'm not sure where the disconnect is here. I think he's saying when you said you'd be willing to lynch BF, you having other scumreads would make you suspicious. And you said you were scum reading TT. So you did have at least one other scumread. But he called you out on reading comprehension? What did I miss?


I'm also sort of confused, so I'm asking.

Sort of off topic, but did he seem somewhat annoyed to you? He seemed sort of annoyed while he was here.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 04:00 GMT
#3451
Alright, I just wanted to make sure.
His annoyance makes him far more likely to be town, fyi.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 04:08 GMT
#3452
I'm going back to killing Onegu in the interim.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 06:14 GMT
#3460
On January 03 2016 14:51 ritoky wrote:
obi do you think i am mafia?


Not really?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 06:15 GMT
#3462
On January 03 2016 14:56 ritoky wrote:
I am asking if you think I am mafia to both of you because I would like you to explain why I wasn't roleblocked when I was clearly trying to feign that I was shooting between damdred and onegu. Why is that shot allowed through if onegu is mafia?


No offense, but I don't know and I don't really care that much.
This isn't really relevant towards me at all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 15:00 GMT
#3520
On January 03 2016 23:50 nooniansoong wrote:
3. Onegu - maybe scum
8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) - maybe scum
9. Exo_ - definitely scum
15. Glowingbear - probably not scum
17. Trfel - definitely scum
19. The Shining - definitely scum
24. Alakaslam - maybe scum


Why on Exo/GB?
And explain Trfel to me too pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 15:15 GMT
#3527
On January 04 2016 00:06 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 00:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 03 2016 23:50 nooniansoong wrote:
3. Onegu - maybe scum
8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) - maybe scum
9. Exo_ - definitely scum
15. Glowingbear - probably not scum
17. Trfel - definitely scum
19. The Shining - definitely scum
24. Alakaslam - maybe scum


Why on Exo/GB?
And explain Trfel to me too pls.


the above was in response to this


Okay, thanks.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 15:22 GMT
#3532
Actually, NM might not be a terrible lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 15:23 GMT
#3533
Kush talk to me about NM.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 15:27 GMT
#3537
Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 15:53 GMT
#3549
Possibly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 16:11 GMT
#3561
On January 04 2016 01:01 sicklucker wrote:
Have you ever played with onegu nocturnemage?

I think I have roleswapped with him twice before. its like all he does. Fakes power roles


If he's town and we lynch him, maybe he'll stop doing it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 19:24 GMT
#3589
On January 04 2016 02:24 Damdred wrote:
Wouldn't it be interesting to start lynching Palomar today and make him play super hardvtommorow to get a read off him


Yes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 19:47 GMT
#3592
On January 04 2016 04:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Some quotes I found that help me think palmar is town. There's more but this is enough.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:58 Palmar wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Well fuck you all. I'm going to sleep regardless of the flip. Good night

Such excited for the game he can't wait 3 minutes


This is a very good observation against rels that was made in the heat of the moment.
~~~

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 23:22 Palmar wrote:
Maybe scum:

Kush: Bad vote on me, called out Exo for things he didn't understand. He's been pretty shit all over
Artanis: he's being super reasonable and willing to listen to people. I know he isn't rayn or some other tunnel god, but still, it's a bit over the top how much he's trying to let other people form their own opinions and barely prodding it. Just like yesterday I didn't read his ows case I haven't read hf today and he doesn't really seem to care.

Probably scum:

GlowingBear: called me out in a really awkward way yesterday and then got into a argument I think. The main thing is that he was reading a conversation about a thing, and then asked about the very thing the conversation was about. It's 100% clear he wasn't actually reading the part of the thread he asked about, he just saw something and ran with it.

OK his kush read is terrible but palmar always has shit-tinted glasses when looking at me.
He goes a few levels deep on his artanis read.
He makes a clever and original point against GB.


I don't understand what was so towny about his Rels observation.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 03 2016 23:05 GMT
#3639
Game is hard.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 15:59 GMT
#3795
On January 04 2016 22:39 sicklucker wrote:
Ah man palmar is so town it hurts


Yeah.
Still catching up but his reads list looks fantastic.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 20:33 GMT
#3863
Caught up at work.
Will be at pc before deadline.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 21:40 GMT
#3872
Alright, I'm here and mostly caught up.
Give me one second.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 21:41 GMT
#3873
##vote glowingbear

I can roll with this - it beats a Palmar lynch any day.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 21:53 GMT
#3881
On January 05 2016 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, why am I being votes?


iirc being too backgroundy.
Palmar did some stuff that I thought was towny so I left him alone and voted you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:03 GMT
#3886
Why is Palmar a better lynch than Slam?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:15 GMT
#3895
On January 04 2016 23:03 Palmar wrote:
Glowingbear

I've had an issue with glowingbear since day 1. Remember I talked about my townread on Exo which then blew up into an argument between us two (this particular part of the game is also involved in my feelings about kush).

During this argument, Exo made precisely the point that GB makes in his question and I responded to it. There is no way GB was attentively reading that conversation to come up with that question, he just threw it out there.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


In fact, go to glowingbear's filter, like half of it, especially on day 1 is just him asking random questions without really following them up or giving any explanations to his thoughts while asking. I can quote quite a few:

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On December 27 2015 09:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal we need to establish that we are going to lynch me never and never putting me under suspicion.

That way I can give you great reads like this:

Town:
Trfel, ritoky, arty, Ness, Damdred and somewhat ticktock (slight lean)


Can you explain these?


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On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel


Why is Artanis town?

Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia?

Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia?


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On December 27 2015 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.

I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.

I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.



Why are you blowing your smurf?


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On December 27 2015 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)



+ Show Spoiler +
1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.

In your picture it would be:

Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"


2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.


first one is correct


Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else.

The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate.

The situation would go as follows:

As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White".

Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat.

Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".

^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with

Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username.

But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?

To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.)
I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm.


Much more important than who is town

Who is Mafia?


Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn what do you think of Ritoky and Ness?



Like I get trying to get people to explain things, but at some point you're just inflating your post count.

Which brings me neatly to my next point:

Glowingbear has a 10 page filter, 7 of which are from day 1. He has basically dropped off the face of the earth (which sort of fits him being mafia, because with tictock fumbling his claim the game is actually going splendidly for mafia.

He's not doing anything, he's been combative but isn't actually trying to get people to do his bidding. Even today he seems to barely care who gets lynched.

GB is perfectly capable of pushing things in later days, I've seen him do it. When he has conviction to do something he usually just does it, yet he is barely even trying this game. If you guys don't believe me go read christmas carol and compare his push on holyflare in that game to his push on holyflare or me this game.




Does none of this mean anything to you?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:30 GMT
#3905
Idk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:53 GMT
#3956
On January 05 2016 07:51 Trfel wrote:
I think Alakaslam is also probably going to flip town, but I feel that GlowingBear will be more able to prove his alignment to everyone.

GlowingBear, please be town

ObiWanShinobi is still mafia, though


Shut up already.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:54 GMT
#3959
I'm staying on GB.
If you guys want to get on my case because I voted with someone I thought was town, go for it. I'm perfectly content ignoring you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:55 GMT
#3964
On January 05 2016 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:
DUDE VOTE OWS


You know what's funny?
The last time you tried some last minute shenannies on me, you were mafia.

I'm feeling pretty good right about now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 22:56 GMT
#3971
On January 05 2016 07:56 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:
DUDE VOTE OWS


You know what's funny?
The last time you tried some last minute shenannies on me, you were mafia.

I'm feeling pretty good right about now.

literally worst meta, but I'll take it.


Yeah, but whatever though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:01 GMT
#3986
VICTORY!
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:05 GMT
#3999
On January 05 2016 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:
DUDE VOTE OWS


You know what's funny?
The last time you tried some last minute shenannies on me, you were mafia.

I'm feeling pretty good right about now.


Actually best meta.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:05 GMT
#4002
On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time

technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up.

either way, checking slam: fantastic idea.


Slam is lynchbait and a terrible check.
Someone like Trfel/OO/Exo might be more plausible.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:06 GMT
#4005
Terrible might be a strong word but I don't like that check.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:09 GMT
#4013
I'm back to thinking Trfel might just be scum again.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:26 GMT
#4033
On January 05 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
acualy the last time me and palmar were both town and crushed mafia he posted a similar gloat post I believe it was some chick flipping everyone off? Ya hes always gonna be town


Didn't you actually vote off wagon and into lala land that game for some reason?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 04 2016 23:35 GMT
#4040
On January 05 2016 08:34 sicklucker wrote:
Na me and palmar were the first two mafia nks so we were def crushing together. meh not important just gloating =]


Didn't you claim a role or something?
My memory is hazy.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 01:05 GMT
#4048
On January 05 2016 08:41 sicklucker wrote:
ya obi i was acualy thinking of two games. The first game was where palmar posted that and something weird was happening because i replaced onegu so I forget what happened there.

But a week later we were in another game and I acualy posted that gif after I saved palmar and got gb lynched something thats the game I was talking about.

So i was confused w/e


Uh huh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 15:58 GMT
#4109
On January 06 2016 00:57 Palmar wrote:
fuck it I'm actually going away

see you tonight maybe.

If I don't come back, don't lynch sl, damdred, onegu and ritoky. Probably don't lynch NM and maybe don't lynch exo. lynch into slam, shining, oo maybe ows

It's super important to remember the people who are not doing jack shit or just show up to randomly say things when it's convenient.

It's almost a good idea to just lynch shortest filter first tbh.


Awh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 15:59 GMT
#4110
Palmar what about Trfel?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 16:09 GMT
#4115
Exo, Palmar is not mafia.
Go do something else.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 16:17 GMT
#4119
Just an FYI, I know that exo has a history of getting into these long, detailed tunnels on people so him going nuts over his Palmar scumread doesn't look terrible despite it being misguided.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 23:51 GMT
#4175
Oh cool.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2016 23:52 GMT
#4176
I'll do stuff when I get home.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 03:41 GMT
#4205
Well I'm home.
Little has happened in the interim.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 04:00 GMT
#4213
On January 06 2016 12:48 ObviousOne wrote:
guys that ows vote sodoge

i've been mentioned a handful of times in his 8 page filter and suddenly i'm scum enough to vote immediately with 0 justification or mention

welcome to being me

srs now, bed time


I was green checked you useless dunce.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 04:01 GMT
#4214
On January 06 2016 12:55 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 00:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 03 2016 23:50 nooniansoong wrote:
3. Onegu - maybe scum
8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) - maybe scum
9. Exo_ - definitely scum
15. Glowingbear - probably not scum
17. Trfel - definitely scum
19. The Shining - definitely scum
24. Alakaslam - maybe scum


Why on Exo/GB?
And explain Trfel to me too pls.


You know...

A couple of posts, about a day, before this post, OWS claimed he'd write up a case on Trfel. That case never happened. And then OWS asked Noon to explain to him why Trfel was definitely scum. Why would he be asking why Trfel was scum if he already thought Trfel was scum and planned on making a case unless he knew he was town and therefore couldn't come up with a case?

Hm


I never wrote out my reasoning and can't expect someone to think the exact same thing I do without knowing why.
Not to mention that I was actually townleaning Trfel at that point.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 04:02 GMT
#4215
Okay so I was over the top to OO but the point still stands.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 04:52 GMT
#4217
Kush is likely town, fyi.
Narrow your search a bit more beyond that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 04:53 GMT
#4218
Actually I just skimmed and missed that part.
Shows me to not read stuff, doi.

Ignore meeeeeee.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2016 16:05 GMT
#4237
That reads list is lame.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 00:10 GMT
#4280
On January 07 2016 09:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Meh onegu just seems super town to me.


outside of mechanics i kinda agree with this. doesn't onegu tend to actually enjoy being mafia more than town? idk his filter isn't really filled with enjoyment tbh, it kinda trends more toward the pissy/not caring side which is the townier side of when he is inactive if i remember right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Onegu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=Onegu&page=5

i just see a lot more joy in these games than onegu has in the current one (he is scum in both of these)


Maybe.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 00:11 GMT
#4281
Just an FYI that I'm mostly taking other people's words for it that Onegu is town - I have no opinion beyond that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 00:32 GMT
#4285
On January 07 2016 09:32 nooniansoong wrote:
wait a second what if obi is godfather


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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 01:27 GMT
#4289
lol I didn't even know that hts was a part of this game.
Well okay then.

I'ma vote Slam since more people are voting him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 02:25 GMT
#4290
(Honestly I think they're both scum but to each his own - it seems that that's general consensus now and my will shall be done regardless of the order.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 16:36 GMT
#4310
Nm might be town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 20:39 GMT
#4344
On January 08 2016 05:29 The Shining wrote:
The vote count looks bad btw. Votes just piled on Slam. Obviously I'll look like shit if he flips scum for saying this but is this really a bus? I guess I just feel weird because all my scum reads are voting Slam and 3 of my town reads aren't voting yet.


It doesn't matter if slam isn't doing anything.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 21:26 GMT
#4359
Can we please just focus on slam/OO?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 22:13 GMT
#4388
On January 08 2016 06:27 ritoky wrote:
obi, what about oo should i focus on?


The fact that he's mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 22:38 GMT
#4405
On January 08 2016 07:31 The Shining wrote:
I like how our confirmed town is risking mod kill


He does that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 22:39 GMT
#4406
On January 08 2016 07:28 nooniansoong wrote:
if i were you guys i would probably think I was scum. My PoE now looks like
oo
ows
onegu
alakaslam

who are all basically lynch bait. Must be wrong. I probably towned EXO too easily today. NM does have a sick scum game as evidenced from that last newbie but this looks different.


Still green checked lalala.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 22:51 GMT
#4412
On January 08 2016 07:42 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2016 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 08 2016 07:28 nooniansoong wrote:
if i were you guys i would probably think I was scum. My PoE now looks like
oo
ows
onegu
alakaslam

who are all basically lynch bait. Must be wrong. I probably towned EXO too easily today. NM does have a sick scum game as evidenced from that last newbie but this looks different.


Still green checked lalala.


I really hope the gf flips in Slam or someone else tomorrow so I can believe you're 100% town. You keep using this as your main defense and it's starting to irk me =/


Yeah I'm actually godfather.
Oh well - you got me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 22:55 GMT
#4414
On January 08 2016 07:54 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2016 07:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 08 2016 07:42 The Shining wrote:
On January 08 2016 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 08 2016 07:28 nooniansoong wrote:
if i were you guys i would probably think I was scum. My PoE now looks like
oo
ows
onegu
alakaslam

who are all basically lynch bait. Must be wrong. I probably towned EXO too easily today. NM does have a sick scum game as evidenced from that last newbie but this looks different.


Still green checked lalala.


I really hope the gf flips in Slam or someone else tomorrow so I can believe you're 100% town. You keep using this as your main defense and it's starting to irk me =/


Yeah I'm actually godfather.
Oh well - you got me.


Lol all I'm saying is I'd like more from you than "I'm green checked." And once gf flips, I can put this to rest


I'll step up eventually, probably when I stop having fun or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 23:07 GMT
#4427
I'm still godfather.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 23:10 GMT
#4430
Palmar is probably mafia.
So is OO.

I can see ExO being a third.

I base all of these things on absolutely nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 23:20 GMT
#4441
On January 08 2016 08:14 ExO_ wrote:
Holy shit why am I scummy now? Jesus Christ its like a rotating door. I really hope it's scum coming in here trying to push suspicion on me yet again, and not townies.

OWS since you are all but confirmed town at this point please listen. I'm not scum. idk what to do but I don't want to lose the game later on b/c confirmed towns scum read me and ended up pusing me.


I don't feel strongly about anyone being scum right now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 23:22 GMT
#4444
On January 08 2016 08:17 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2016 08:08 The Shining wrote:
On January 08 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Congrats Obi on being basically confirmed town. To bad SL didn't make his second check better.

Interesting that palmar wouldn't move to slam yesterday when we were shenanigans.

Time to think


Hmmmm.

Palmar+OO+exo?

If not exo, NMs ritoky case might have merit.


Hey everyone, this was after the GB lynch and before the cop flipped. Remember this?

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time

technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up.

either way, checking slam: fantastic idea.






This might be valuable information though.
I know for a fact Palmar hates checking lynchbait so him saying this and Slam consequently flipping godfather looks pretty significant.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2016 00:30 GMT
#4461
On January 08 2016 08:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2016 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 08 2016 08:17 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 08 2016 08:08 The Shining wrote:
On January 08 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Congrats Obi on being basically confirmed town. To bad SL didn't make his second check better.

Interesting that palmar wouldn't move to slam yesterday when we were shenanigans.

Time to think


Hmmmm.

Palmar+OO+exo?

If not exo, NMs ritoky case might have merit.


Hey everyone, this was after the GB lynch and before the cop flipped. Remember this?

On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time

technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up.

either way, checking slam: fantastic idea.






This might be valuable information though.
I know for a fact Palmar hates checking lynchbait so him saying this and Slam consequently flipping godfather looks pretty significant.


o rly? why would you hate checking lynchbait... lynchbait seems like the perfect thing to check.


It's Palmar's general line of thinking as town.
I agree with it, which is why it's weird that he didn't think it this game. And, coincidentally, he tells people to check the lynchbait godfather of all things?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2016 16:34 GMT
#4480
On January 08 2016 21:32 Palmar wrote:
OWS is not correct, I always, always encourage checking low activity players who feel like a coinflip. Checking or shooting them.


iirc you got mad at hopeless for checking someone like that in that other game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2016 17:05 GMT
#4481
On January 08 2016 21:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Palmer can you defend the point nm made against you earlier?

You directed checking slam.
You are known to not like checking lynchbait players according to ows.


This isn't exactly what I asked, ftr.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2016 18:34 GMT
#4483
Yeah I wish i could double check my sources but I can't via phone.

Much lameness.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2016 18:35 GMT
#4484
Damdred could theoretically be scum ftr.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2016 20:53 GMT
#4488
On January 09 2016 05:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 03:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could theoretically be scum ftr.


such reasoning much wow


Right?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2016 15:13 GMT
#4643
Gonna try to catch up this afternoon/tonight, had a relatively busy Friday.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 00:52 GMT
#4675
On January 10 2016 07:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:07 The Shining wrote:
"He should be suspect some if he does not die"

That's not green check talk


Atually it can be if the godfather hasn't flipped yet.

Its like saying, hey this guy is green checked but i'm sort of worried about it because I don't know where the godfather is quite yet so look into it later.

It is possible palmar was checked if you read SL filter and his read progression he goes, light scum palmar->Heavy Scum (n1)->still thinks scum (d2)->Scum reads palmar more (n2)-> town reads palmar.

This isn't to say that its definitive at this point in time that palmar was green checked, but its just as likely that palmar was green checked especially by the progression in SL read. We don't know what SL checks are for all we now it could of been ME+HF or exo+ows.

We should parse what we have and go from there, me personally just reading sl filter its a bit likely that Palmar wasn't the check necessarily but I think there are a good bit of things in the thread that make palmar town.


What is the point of this post?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 02:01 GMT
#4677
On January 10 2016 09:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 09:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 10 2016 07:41 Damdred wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:07 The Shining wrote:
"He should be suspect some if he does not die"

That's not green check talk


Atually it can be if the godfather hasn't flipped yet.

Its like saying, hey this guy is green checked but i'm sort of worried about it because I don't know where the godfather is quite yet so look into it later.

It is possible palmar was checked if you read SL filter and his read progression he goes, light scum palmar->Heavy Scum (n1)->still thinks scum (d2)->Scum reads palmar more (n2)-> town reads palmar.

This isn't to say that its definitive at this point in time that palmar was green checked, but its just as likely that palmar was green checked especially by the progression in SL read. We don't know what SL checks are for all we now it could of been ME+HF or exo+ows.

We should parse what we have and go from there, me personally just reading sl filter its a bit likely that Palmar wasn't the check necessarily but I think there are a good bit of things in the thread that make palmar town.


What is the point of this post?


Exactly what I said


I don't get it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 04:14 GMT
#4680
I wasn't scum in Ippo.
I'd imagine Jat sent it to the database like that because Jat.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 07:07 GMT
#4692
Okay, so I'm aware of the fact that I've actually been for real busy and simply haven't had time to play.
But two pages guys? Bleehhhhhh.

I wish Hf was still alive or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 07:17 GMT
#4693
I don't particularly think Exo is scum.
Someone clarify what I'm supposed to be seeing because idgi.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 15:00 GMT
#4703
On January 10 2016 21:11 Palmar wrote:
I still think we need to lynch Exo.

Here's the short version of the reason:

Almost everything he says is based on looking at facts, not why they happened.

He thought I was mafia because reasons... other peopel said I was? I can't remember
Then I lynched mafia, suddenly I am not mafia. NOT because he believed my case on Gb (he didn't read it), but simply because a guy I voted flipped red.
Then I become mafia again because of I don't quite know why. I think it's because slam happened to be mafia too.

The point is, he doesn't care WHY things happens. He seems to have this flowchart of when it's correct to do something according to his plan and he just executes it without looking into it.

To point it out clearly, it's 100% irrelevant if GB flipped mafia or town. The result in my alignment based on that day should be considered in how genuine and solid my case was and if I pushed it in a townie or scummy way. I wouldn't have magically been mafia if I had been wrong on GB, I'd simply have been wrong.

In addition, he has multiple times this game accused me of being mafia for doing townie things. An example is like this:

"Palmar is mafia because he talked himself out of a lynch".

The problem is that, he implies that the ONLY way I could possibly be town is if I let myself become lynched. IE: my alignment, is predetermined and not concluded based on evidence.


This all makes perfect sense to me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 15:02 GMT
#4704
I just don't understand why I'm still alive if I'm borderline confirmed town.
It doesn't make any sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 15:33 GMT
#4705
Is anyone else here?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 16:12 GMT
#4710
Also makes enough sense to me, tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 16:12 GMT
#4711
I'm probably just going to sheep Palmar here after all is said and done.
I can't really find any other course of action worth following instead.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 19:07 GMT
#4713
Four hours to deadline and people still need to vote.
Come on.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 19:15 GMT
#4715
On January 11 2016 04:13 Damdred wrote:
Just been a busy day at work slowly catching up. Well not much to catch up with.

There are a couple teams I'm playing with but I might lynch exp today. Rit might be ok to hrm


Explain or link pls?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 20:25 GMT
#4727
Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 22:01 GMT
#4844
I hate all of you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 22:03 GMT
#4846
I'll vote OO I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 22:04 GMT
#4847
On January 11 2016 07:03 Damdred wrote:
Why's that obi?

Rit why me over SL or palmar after we lynched gb?


I hate it when people try to be clever with hiding their roles.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 23:03 GMT
#4892
Lame.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2016 23:04 GMT
#4896
Sorry OO.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2016 03:48 GMT
#4933
On January 11 2016 08:06 ExO_ wrote:
We're going to lose this game b/c of Coag. Coag being a non-partcipant is going to let scum win this game :/


There are a number of reasons why town is likely going to lose this game.
Coag is probably one, but saying we lost simply because of him is untrue.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2016 03:49 GMT
#4934
Btw, I think ritoky's play was absolutely brilliant.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2016 03:50 GMT
#4935
(Even though everyone decided that a last second CC was going to be an honest play. This is probably what I get for having a busy schedule but whatever.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2016 21:46 GMT
#4955
Palmar should be on table for you kush, at the very least.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2016 21:46 GMT
#4956
Mostly because I feel like the Exo lynch is an elaborate setup.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 17 2016 15:29 GMT
#5329
On January 17 2016 09:50 Palmar wrote:
There is a lot of dumb rage in the Obs QT. People seem to forget that watching isn't the same as engaging.

When Damdred is alive and Koshi isn't, I'll try to build my "towniness" in a way that I think will persuade damdred, and not give a fuck what might persuade koshi.

I didn't just kill people who were right, I killed people who were right or I had little chance of convincing based on the state of the game. It's about systematically destroying leadership and initiative in town. I'm actually sort of more proud of this performance than when I just get everyone to townread me, because it's a more roundabout way of winning as mafia.

My team played very well, thanks for a fun team guys.

GG everyone


I agree.
Scumteam deserved the win and town didn't.

WP all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 17 2016 17:21 GMT
#5337
On January 18 2016 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
Moral of this game just like every other. Stop fucking fake claiming.

And no damdy yours wasn't bad tbh but if no one fake claimed in general shit like this game wouldn't happen.


+1
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