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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 30 2015 10:38 GMT
#2800
On December 30 2015 19:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 18:32 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 18:21 ExO_ wrote:
On December 30 2015 18:16 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 18:11 ExO_ wrote:
On December 30 2015 18:00 ritoky wrote:
exo are you caught up fully with the thread?


For the most part. If I understand correctly:

Mafia has 2 kills, and then a 2 shot vig. Which explains the 3 deaths. Onegu is claiming a red check on TT, with no counter claim so far. I'm inclined to believe him b/c of the post TT made with the popcorn. I think TT is scum.

Artanis and Rayn were both convinced Palmar was scum. And I tend to agree. I'm in favor of lynching Palmar today for this reason: This means that if somebody CC's Onegu's claim we're not having last minute vote shenanigans again. If nothing changes in regards to TT then I think one of our gunsmith's shoot him.

I think I need to go really closely read how the vote switching happened. Who switched. Why they said they switched. I think some clues are there. And I think Artanis/rayn's filter should be read closely as well.


Why do you prefer a lynch on a scum read (to which there is a level of uncertainty) versus a player who is red checked by an uncc'd cop and CC'd for the role he claimed (which seems far more definitive)? What's the difference between lynching TT and shooting palmar and why is the opposite preferable?


Because rayn/Artanis both felt strongly about Palmar. I think Palmar is regarded well enough to have more influence on the game, and possibly talk his way out of this. TT isn't making it to the end of this game regardless, Palmar might find a way to talk his way out of it. I think Palmar is scum, and I don't want to give him a chance to slip by.

If possible I'd like to avoid voting Shenanigans at the end of the day today, and one way I could see that happening is somebody CCing onegu and then we end up lynching the wrong person again. I can't see a world in which somebody would CC onegu, and claim they got a green check on Palmar, it would look to obviously wrong. So if we lynch Palmar, shoot TT we get the most amount of scum, with the least amount of risk.


I am having trouble grasping this. It's been nearly half a day and almost every player has been to the thread and posted at least once; so the # of people who a CC to onegu could come from is extremely limited. Further if someone CC's onegu in the final hours, it is just awful play....like really bad; but beyond that it doesn't explain TT getting CC'd on top of the red check by damdred. On top of that TT not claiming GS under impending lynch yesterday makes no sense at all. He will claim under red check but not under imminent death? What? It would take one helluva last minute CC to cause shenanies.

Plus as of now I am shooting palmar which was what rayn and i had been saying all night before checks and cc's happened.


I didn't want to claim.

+ Show Spoiler [Stuff you wont believe till later] +

My dumbass decided to post "Lynch Onegu when I flip miller" Rather than just "...when I flip"

At least I'm glad I gave the gun to you kus I'm certain your town based off stuff today. I almost gave it to Damdred.

My EoD posts did have a lot of "You all are gunna be mad at me when I die" stuff.

My perspective right now is that Rayn/Art were onto something with Vivax/Palmar. At least one of them is scum imo and prob an important role.

Only reason it makes sense to have 2 people fake claims to get me lynched today.

Onegu is prob goon and doesn't have much time so is making the 1v1 trade for me.

Damdred Idk about. I'm fairly sure Onegu wouldn't fakeclaim on me outta the blue like this as town. There is some faint tinfoil ideas about Damdred faking a claim as town to get me lynched, it makes sense for him to be convinced I'm mafia here. Like it's a really stupid play for scum!Damdred to fake claim GS to get me lynched when there is already a red check on me.

I'd still put money on SL being scum this game as well, possibly still Ness and Kush. Ness I'm honestly thinking might have legit stormed off from the game though... though I think that's more likely to happen is he's scum here feeling caught rather than a town who just felt under pressure. Idk be interesting to gauge his return.


I need you to explain to me some things:

1) Why claim today when red checked but not yesterday when 7 minutes from lynch?

2) Why is onegu mafia? (other than I am GS and he claimed red)

3) Elaborate on your damdred tinfoil theories; he claimed your role, why isn't he mafia?

4) Why should I believe you when there's an uncc'd cop with a red check?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 30 2015 10:41 GMT
#2801
and while answering those keep in mind you basically need to shit a town rainbow so hard down my throat that it pours from every orifice of my body to get me to even consider going against an uncc'd red and a cc.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 30 2015 10:51 GMT
#2804
well then i guess i am not gonna get answers and should just go to bed before the baby wakes up and wrecks my life.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 30 2015 18:54 GMT
#2898
i might shoot you, there's that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 30 2015 21:05 GMT
#2913
what time exactly does the game get paused for 24 hrs? EoD or?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 30 2015 21:15 GMT
#2915
On December 31 2015 06:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
what time exactly does the game get paused for 24 hrs? EoD or?
10 AM Eastern, I believe.

Palmar is funny


thanx.

btw who are your top 2 mafia that aren't named palmar or tt?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2015 00:49 GMT
#2976
...well then...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2015 00:53 GMT
#2978
is something happening with ness too? that guy hasn't posted in like 72 hrs, i don't think he is coming back to these forums
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2015 01:09 GMT
#2980
dunno, i know he said he wanted hf to bet him money in the thread, but outside of that idk. doesn't matter tho mod already decided, discuss if warranted/how/why after the game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2015 01:14 GMT
#2983
shining do you think the modkill hit scum or not?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2016 20:28 GMT
#3062
gb post other reads, i am tired of reading your essay on HF.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2016 20:32 GMT
#3063
On January 02 2016 01:22 Coagulation wrote:
or mafia being cheeky do its a wash right?


are you gonna do anything all game with your free confirmed town spot or?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2016 20:34 GMT
#3064
i have such a bad headache

+ Show Spoiler +
for anyone who has ever been to or worked in an emergency room new years eve is the worst night of the year. it is the perfect shitstorm of people who are sad from winter/holidays (mental health), people who are drunk doing dumb shit, explosives (fireworks), kids doing reckless things while tired, and people not having to go to work the next day....it is fucking brutal
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2016 23:44 GMT
#3167
....really? ...like REALLY?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2016 23:50 GMT
#3173
onegu do you think damdred is town?

damdred do you think onegu is town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2016 23:57 GMT
#3177
On January 02 2016 08:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I lied, I'm actually still here.
I just perused OO's, Shining's, and Vivax's filters and haven't had issues with any of them.

Considering Palmar is so high up on everyone's lists and I townread him earlier, can someone explain to me why everyone thinks he's so scummy?

I'll be checking this thread intermittently throughout tonight but I'll try to respond to whoever is still trying to do things.


On December 29 2015 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way Palmar does neither of:
(1) stay on TicTock when having claimed to sheep me
(2) vote Vivax after unclaim
..as town.

There is just no way and it makes Palmar 100% mafia.



On December 29 2015 17:19 ritoky wrote:
palmar has no read on me, he has no read on koshi. palmar says he is sheeping rayn (who both made a case and did an idiot policy vote both of which i think palmar stands behind). i then announce GOGOGO on the shennanies and he is there before me and only after koshi. he also makes no comment about rels. like wtf is that?

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2016 00:00 GMT
#3182
tbh i am mad....that might be because the ibuprofen didn't kill the headache or cuz of this mess; but stop with the woe is me shit if you're town; i gotta figure out this pile of mess in 23 hours.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2016 00:03 GMT
#3189
On January 02 2016 08:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ritoky I don't understand what you're trying to shoot for with your bottom quote.
Can you elaborate more?


basically palmar says "i am sheeping rayn cuz i am not really playing this phase".

rels comes back and does a bunch of shit that was bad.

i start discussing shennanies onto rels

koshi votes rels

i say gogogo in the thread

i go to voting thread

palmar has already voted rels

i go to palmar's filter

palmar has no read on rels, no read on koshi, and no read on me.

why does town palmar not sheep rayn onto his case or a policy vote on a claim/unclaim, but instead follows a no-read onto a no-read?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2016 00:04 GMT
#3191
On January 02 2016 09:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 09:00 ritoky wrote:
tbh i am mad....that might be because the ibuprofen didn't kill the headache or cuz of this mess; but stop with the woe is me shit if you're town; i gotta figure out this pile of mess in 23 hours.


They're both probably town there's nothing to work out. Shoot slam please.


are you so sure of this you wouldn't lynch their ass at lylo?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2016 00:10 GMT
#3197
On January 02 2016 09:02 Vivax wrote:
Methinks trfel is mafia tbh, need to narrow down my shit soon


why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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