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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 02:23 GMT
#1254
after reading this shit, I am pretty disappointed in our 2 basically confirmed town and their lack of thread presence. Can you step up please?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 02:24 GMT
#1255
On December 28 2015 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Answer these questions.

How much mafia experience do you have? yes
How many times have you been mafia in your mafia meta? ok
If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? me
If you saw 3 buttons, 1 being green, 1 being yellow, and 1 being red, which would you push? ultraviolet sson


Is it sad that the sson at the end makes me think you're slightly mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 02:44 GMT
#1264
Probably gonna filter dive vivax and tt when I get home I'm a bit over an hr
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 02:46 GMT
#1266
On December 28 2015 11:40 nooniansoong wrote:
Not trfel I mean tt


Why do you think tt looks bad?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 03:19 GMT
#1271
On December 28 2015 12:11 nooniansoong wrote:
Why does tt look bad? Ask the people who are scumreading him.

I believe, ows, you said tts posts are empty..something like that. Your posts are pretty empty too. Your content is similar to tt in its length and depth.


So you can understand why artanis is voting ows and you think it is similar, you find them both empty posters and you're just content to let them do fuck all for what reason? Since apparently you don't scum read either of them
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 03:29 GMT
#1277
On December 28 2015 12:23 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 12:19 ritoky wrote:
On December 28 2015 12:11 nooniansoong wrote:
Why does tt look bad? Ask the people who are scumreading him.

I believe, ows, you said tts posts are empty..something like that. Your posts are pretty empty too. Your content is similar to tt in its length and depth.


So you can understand why artanis is voting ows and you think it is similar, you find them both empty posters and you're just content to let them do fuck all for what reason? Since apparently you don't scum read either of them


Why does null reading someone equate to being content to let them do fuck all?


prior to your post while I was typing mine you hadn't engaged either when both are here to get a read plus you're not pushing for anything. From what I remember you're default sitting on palmar and content to let people fuck off.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 04:11 GMT
#1284
On December 28 2015 12:40 Damdred wrote:
I kinda think mush is town now to hrmm


me too, i kinda like the defiance, although it isn't quite the being told to go fuck myself read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 04:13 GMT
#1285
On December 27 2015 08:51 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm mafia!

Lynch me

##Vote: GlowingBear


Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote?

Personally, I could try and get GB killed for 3 games in a row.


TT was this serious or not?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 04:17 GMT
#1286
On December 28 2015 12:32 The Shining wrote:
I'm caught up-ish? But I'm really tired and work is dragging so I'm not sure how much registered. I skimmed thru Ness filter before my headache got the best of me. I'm going to get a good nights sleep when I get home later and probably break my Monday/Tuesday no-play meta tomorrow to finish filters and be around for EoD. I'm *kinda* here for the next half hour.

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:12 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let me get this straight:

HF and Ness both think my interpretation of GB's posts is not correct.
Regardless of why i think what i do (either i am mafia or missing something) GB does not correct me. In the case on HF and Ness being right, GB not correcting me should mean GB HAS TO BE MAFIA for them, there is literally no other explanation since there should be zero reason for GB to let me say stuff that is just --- incorrect and he 100% knows it.

Neither of them is voting for GB....



Oh! Silliness, i love it!

Smh i'm not going to vote for GB, because while i have a gut feeling of him being mafia, theres nothing to support it yet :p


Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:54 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:48 N e s s wrote:
eh, rayn say whatever about me, atleast i know you're really, really wrong about everything

well said. about a guy who shares at least 2 of your scumreads.

smh what you say about me doesn't make any sense, 2 scum reads? What does that even fucking mean?

@glowbear

i don't know what to think about you, but i'm leaning towards town. The way you've been on me and asking questions is fine, and all of your posts have a meaning behind it.


Posts are in order. #959 and #1021. Ness, how serious was that gutread that you admitted had nothing to support it? What exactly gave you that gutread? Becuz post 1021 is a big change in town from scum gutread to town lean because of your interaction with GB. IMO GB didn't do anything outstanding in between these posts.


and that makes him what?

also why did you choose to read ness's filter?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 04:35 GMT
#1288
i really want my question to tt answered, i hope he didn't fuck off
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 04:47 GMT
#1290
On December 28 2015 13:41 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 13:17 ritoky wrote:
On December 28 2015 12:32 The Shining wrote:
I'm caught up-ish? But I'm really tired and work is dragging so I'm not sure how much registered. I skimmed thru Ness filter before my headache got the best of me. I'm going to get a good nights sleep when I get home later and probably break my Monday/Tuesday no-play meta tomorrow to finish filters and be around for EoD. I'm *kinda* here for the next half hour.

On December 28 2015 02:12 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let me get this straight:

HF and Ness both think my interpretation of GB's posts is not correct.
Regardless of why i think what i do (either i am mafia or missing something) GB does not correct me. In the case on HF and Ness being right, GB not correcting me should mean GB HAS TO BE MAFIA for them, there is literally no other explanation since there should be zero reason for GB to let me say stuff that is just --- incorrect and he 100% knows it.

Neither of them is voting for GB....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSsrvsszcs

Oh! Silliness, i love it!

Smh i'm not going to vote for GB, because while i have a gut feeling of him being mafia, theres nothing to support it yet :p


On December 28 2015 02:54 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:48 N e s s wrote:
eh, rayn say whatever about me, atleast i know you're really, really wrong about everything

well said. about a guy who shares at least 2 of your scumreads.

smh what you say about me doesn't make any sense, 2 scum reads? What does that even fucking mean?

@glowbear

i don't know what to think about you, but i'm leaning towards town. The way you've been on me and asking questions is fine, and all of your posts have a meaning behind it.


Posts are in order. #959 and #1021. Ness, how serious was that gutread that you admitted had nothing to support it? What exactly gave you that gutread? Becuz post 1021 is a big change in town from scum gutread to town lean because of your interaction with GB. IMO GB didn't do anything outstanding in between these posts.


and that makes him what?

also why did you choose to read ness's filter?


Phone post. This, coupled with my other post replying to GB, makes me inclined to lean scum but I already mentioned in my other post that his activity with so many lurkers makes me hesitate. That's why I want to see his response.

I picked Ness because I just caught up. I randomly picked GBs filter to read first because I've played with GB before, saw his interactions with Ness and him scumming Ness then saying he might be tunneled, noticed they were voting together when I checked the voting thread. So I wanted to see Ness read on a GB that was scumming him but that he voted with.

This is all in my 5 post filter btw =/


so do you think he is scummy or null as of now without his response? and what exactly gives you pause regarding lurkers?

i can understand that, but why i guess my question was more of why ness before someone in threat of being lynched?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 05:07 GMT
#1293
well i think you're kinda town for no particular reason other than you sound honest.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 06:06 GMT
#1297
Well clearly TT fucked off so just gonna make my post w/o his response cuz i can't be fukin bothered to wait hours b4 deadline for him to return b4 i post this.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 06:41 GMT
#1302
So basically TT made some bullshit read progression last game on a new player that he totally never makes as town. basically he made an awakward joke then randomly backed out of a town read over literal nothing and over-explained why he did so. He hasn't quite done that this game, but he has some elements going on.

On December 27 2015 08:51 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm mafia!

Lynch me

##Vote: GlowingBear


Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote?

Personally, I could try and get GB killed for 3 games in a row.


Like is this a joke or is it serious? Normally I just assume this is 100% a joke, but GB is one of those assholes who would claim scum as scum or claim cop as cop just to dick around. He would also do both as VT for the same reason. So it very well could be him using some meta and taking it actually serious. And if it is not serious then it isn't really funny and it is a shitty joke...shitty jokes actually tend more toward scum.

On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.

Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.

No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi

I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything.


Bold #1: Firstly I just disagree with this pretty strongly. Secondly, his eventual reason for this read is "you ask questions and then don't conclude things" (which btw after this post you don't really do either of those things) which is the most vague and gray goo accusation of a new player ever. It feels like you pulled it out of a box.

Bold #2: This is the part that really blows my mind. Why the fuck koshi? Of all people, why koshi? I say this ENTIRELY because of the last game. To give you context: in nutcracker koshi opened the game with the literal exact same post basically and attempted to hold to it; after approximately 12 hours he crumbled and started spamming the thread (or the equiv of spamming in a post limit game). #1) If you're going to base your read off of koshi making the same play shouldn't you actually wait until a proper amount of time has passed for koshi to explode and fail at being quiet or succeed and then make your judgment from then on? #2) koshi had been fairly calm (for his standards) up until kinda recently where he posted some more which is the OPPOSITE of what happened in the last game. So I have a very hard time grasping this read, because I can only assume there is some meta behind it since koshi was nowhere near the most town in the thread from a play perspective. Like either you think koshi got better at being quiet and is town (in which case how the fuck did you make this read so fast?) or this read is manufactured.

Bold #3: If the above was serious and based on meta (which to me this post kinda indicates it slightly was) then you backed out of a meta read about GB claiming scum super easy and at a time when I don't really think he deserved it in the slightest. In fact GB was pretty fucking scummy early and I think he still has a solid chance of flipping scum.

On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.

It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion.

Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart.

What if he's changed his play style?

But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Well here is where we disagree..
And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means.

But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do.

Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town.

Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point?

TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething).
Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.


Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it

Seems legit


To me this part is weaker than the koshi part, but still scum indicative. Basically it is simple: he is not reading and doesn't care. Multiple points in the thread and the pages surrounding this, kush, rayn, and hf had all mentioned that kush was a smurf who admitted he was a smurf because he couldn't log on his original name from work. It is mentioned quite a few times, but TT agrees with the read made initially that kush = scum cuz admitting smurfing = nonsense. But he keeps standing by it in the face of facts. Facts that he hadn't read because he didn't care about making an informed read. It is only when I quote it for him a bit later that he says "oh". Also when your read goes from he admitted he was a smurf -> oh, nothing after 1 correction of facts....and it is your most prominent read; clearly he isn't interested in finding scum.

On December 28 2015 12:11 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 23:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ness is town because he asked this "can you see whos viewing thread" basicly hes asking if people can see if hes lurking or if he can see lurkers.

If hes mafia and he is worried about people seeing him lurk he would ask his mafia qt so this is not possible.

This only leaves the other option that he legitly wants to see if people are lurking.

I think this statement alone makes him town and alot of other people have reasons to think hes town so im sure he is.

The only other option is an intentional dumbtell which is very rare. I dont think a mafia would ask this ever due to being afraid of suspicion


My only issue with this thinking is that it could just be a very legit, NAI, question he asked there and you are way overthinking it.

I will admit that the nature of the question is more town indicative, but this wont really change my opinion by itself.


Like this, he is just shitting on someone's town read, but even in shitting on it he is being wishy-washy about shitting on it. However after dumping on it he provides nothing of his own. No indication of direction or wanting people to get on board with him lynching Ness. He simply shits to shit.

I don't see how posts like this push town in any positive direction. Like where are you trying to find scum? Where are you gathering information? Where are you showing you're reading the thread? Where are you trying to get people to understand your point of view? You're doing none of that, so you're probably just mafia.

On December 28 2015 12:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm.


Ouch.


Ouch is right.

Currently I think TT is a better lynch than Vivax. Vivax is nibbling at the edges while actively reading which annoys me greatly and also engaging in riddles before gameplay which also frustrates me, but he has some LS in him....and that kinda makes me a pussy about it.

##unvote:
##vote: TickTock
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 19:25 GMT
#1743
On December 29 2015 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 04:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh I forgot OWS and TT on there. Coloured in red so I skipped over them

post your chart real quick

[image loading]


wtf are you doing? the fact that you didn't extend the column to have ows's name fully inside pisses me off soooooooo much.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 19:26 GMT
#1745
On December 29 2015 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If this is the reason people actually TR me I swear I'm going to shoot someone

You mean the chart?
No, if you didn't have one you would be scum.

If Vivax actually unclaimed we lynch him 100%. I don't fucking care if he is town or not but we lynch him.


what do you think of hf being so heated @ gb that he didn't even give vivax unclaiming the time of day?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 19:32 GMT
#1756
On December 29 2015 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care about vivax's unclaim because night actions will sort it out and I think he's still the jk because:

A) nobody said they wanted to lynch vivax after he claimed
B) his thread participation has increased a modicum
C) he's still shit and I ignore the majority of posts he makes atm


doesn't the whole actually being JK but unclaiming to try and dodge a bullet/confuse scum thing usually happen during the night phase?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 19:32 GMT
#1760
also who the fuck is waylanner?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 19:34 GMT
#1763
On December 29 2015 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 04:33 ExO_ wrote:
throwing my vote back on TT, will be back before EoD.


don't do it, he's town


why is he town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 28 2015 19:35 GMT
#1767
On December 29 2015 04:34 Vivax wrote:
cant actually believe town rayn would scumread me here, regardless of any claims


can believe town rayn policy votes you for doing something idiotic here, regarding your claims
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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