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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:18 GMT
#1065
This thread doesn't understand the word civilised.

Fuck is not a normal word people used in civilised conversation.
Calling someone stupid is not something people do in civilised conversation.

Your way of questioning him was blatantly antagonistic and not getting the desired results and I'm pretty sure he misunderstood the phrasing of the whole thing and was confused so it did nothing to alleviate the situation.




Ness when someone says "Sharing reads," they simply mean that you have some scum reads and they also have the same scum reads as you. You haven't shared anything per se but you both have the same some scum reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:21 GMT
#1070
I won't stop white knighting you because that's what the situation called for and it clearly made you get to a point that no person should get to.

They just want to know the following:

What are your scum reads?
Why did you say Rayn was wrong on everything?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:38 GMT
#1085
On December 28 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
HF this is a game, a game of deception. It's not like we're having a business meeting. I understand he's new, but you have got to be willing to play the game. ness needs to calm down and explain himself, instead of just irrationally lashing out.


You were rude and it was uncalled for. You don't have to tell me how this game works but you were degrading and antagonistic when it was uncalled for, don't blame the game for your bad manners when you yourself get angry for the same exact things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:39 GMT
#1086
On December 28 2015 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:36 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:27 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:23 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:19 N e s s wrote:
@rayn
how the hell am i not even trying, i did fucking try but you said i'm full of shit.

so could you answer what sharing reads in you opinion meant?

Well i see the word sharing so i know what that means.

I can tell from context clues it means "sharing reads with another person" but i didn't even know i was sharing reads with you.

So, again...
Why did you then decide to say i am wrong on everything.
In my opinion that means all of my reads are bad, no?
But then, after that, you said that you don't know what my reads are (which was already confirmed).

How can you say that? It's not like if i am wrong on you all my other reads are shit aswell, is it?

What i meant when i said that was you're wrong about me being scum and that your perspective on me saying that exchange between me and GB was wrong in your eyes.

Okay.

I still can't understand why you asked people on bandwagoning on Moosy (which wasn't exactly bandwagoning since exactly one person voted on him). You know what voting people for either RVS or pressure at the start of the game is, right?

Like... the way you approached to the situation -- based on where you come from, doesn't make sense to me.
So could you explain these things:
1) Why did you were actually concerned on people RVS'ing/"wagoning" on Moosy at the start of the game, when it is completely normal play regardless of anyone's affiliation on almost any forum that plays mafia?
2) Why did it seem like it was a reason to suspect the guy who voted? Did you really think that guy is a suspect for it? If not, again -- why (1)?

1)I still have no clue as to why everyone voted for moose at the start, am i missing something? Because it doesn't matter alignment or not when voting someone, why would you vote for someone with no reason to at the start?
2) I don't understand what you're asking here, i didn't think anyone who called someone scum in the start would be mafia in a sense, i mean that i don't understand why someone would bother to vote for a person with little or no reason to.

Ugh.... can someone else with better english skills reword the question in case it is unclear because i don't think this answers -- or even tries to -- anything i asked.....

And i don't know if it is my fault or not...


You're using acronyms he doesn't understand I think, just explain what RVS means?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:41 GMT
#1089
Ok Ness, rayn is saying that in your forum there is a stage at the beginning of the game where everyone votes randomly for no reason. Rayn is questioning why you were concerned with people voting for Moosy randomly when it happens in your forum just the same way and means nothing.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:43 GMT
#1094
On December 28 2015 03:42 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Ok Ness, rayn is saying that in your forum there is a stage at the beginning of the game where everyone votes randomly for no reason. Rayn is questioning why you were concerned with people voting for Moosy randomly when it happens in your forum just the same way and means nothing.


i'm not an idiot. I've played mafia plenty of times.


Yes but that doesn't answer the question.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 18:57 GMT
#1101
On December 28 2015 03:55 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:47 N e s s wrote:
WHY i thought voting moose is idiotic because there was nothing to go off of from it.

Honestly why can't people realize that, come the hell on people! You realize that we were voting for someone with no reason to.

THATS why i was keen on not understanding why people were voting for him. I know that RVS means Random voting stage, but come on. I don't even use RVS that often.


I don't know who moosey is, but I was able to figure out that it was a policy lynch joke vote. They were talking about it pre game. I don't see why you shouldn't have been able to figure that out as well. If you were reading the thread. Quite honestly I think you aren't reading the thread, and to make up for that you are yelling a bunch.

Also fuck off HF with your holier than thou bullshit. I can expect people to read the thread, or be treated poorly for not doing so.


Please don't talk to me in that regard I am a human being with feelings and will not be treated with such disrespect because you have some mental problem where you need to insult people. I am truly sorry for your aggression problems. Ness didn't even know the game had started and was wondering why people were voting Moosy even then it's not hard to expect he didn't know what was happening at the start too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 19:06 GMT
#1106
Please stop being so abrasive, I might get perturbed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 19:46 GMT
#1119
What's the point in playing when the 2 people I want to vote have wagons on them and there are like a million people afk? 0 point
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 21:09 GMT
#1152
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 21:27 GMT
#1156
On December 28 2015 06:14 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI


I based my read on two pieces of information.
1 He played try hard scum last game. I was in that game with him and I remember it very well.
2 I read his filter this game and it looks much lower effort than his mafia game.

I don't think it's tmi.


And then you said he could be burnt out and made the leap to him being town instead...?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 21:44 GMT
#1161
On December 28 2015 06:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI


I based my read on two pieces of information.
1 He played try hard scum last game. I was in that game with him and I remember it very well.
2 I read his filter this game and it looks much lower effort than his mafia game.

I don't think it's tmi.


And then you said he could be burnt out and made the leap to him being town instead...?


There is no leap. His activity points to two options: burnt out scum or town. Which of those he is, I do not know. However, I do not think his lack of activity and the emptiness of his posts is a scumtell, due to his last scumgame. That is what most people are basing the scumread on.

Is he burnt out scum or town? If his behavior doesn't point to one being more likely than the other, than it is more likely he is town, simply because town is the more abundant role.


That's most definitely a leap and unless you have a view on all the other players in the game and have narrowed down mafia also a really bad leap.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 22:56 GMT
#1178
On December 28 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:
Got some food poisoning or someshit this morning so been kinda out of it today.

Will be catching up and whatnot as I can at work.


You can go to work with food poisoning? I think not my friend.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 23:02 GMT
#1180
On December 28 2015 08:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I'm gonna attempt to be good and actually work at work which I've been terrible at so I'll be gone for the next ~18 hours.


So you're gonna throw away your vote on non of the leading wagons on obi when he plays bad a lot and just afk the rest of the day?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#1185
What if they just care about the most important things...?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 23:13 GMT
#1198
On December 28 2015 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Slam, ExO is practically confirmed town due to dumbtelling himself into oblivion by not believing the mason claims for forever.


That's a bad reason because he said they are likely VT's fake claiming too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 14:31 GMT
#1403
I think we just lynch the people that blindly didn't want to lynch vivax a while ago, that is guaranteed mafia. As for names I'll find them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 14:58 GMT
#1417
On December 28 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch the people that blindly didn't want to lynch vivax a while ago, that is guaranteed mafia. As for names I'll find them.


That would make them mafia why? Are you going to lynch anyone who wasnt your bitch? Eradicate some intelligence from this game?


Well if perchance you are town then the people that aren't following a good case of vivax does shit all as mafia early in the game and we should pressure him generally have TMI and are mafia themselves, there is 0 reason to not form a wagon on you to make you do stuff unless they are scared to look out of place and are mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:11 GMT
#1420
On December 29 2015 00:08 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch the people that blindly didn't want to lynch vivax a while ago, that is guaranteed mafia. As for names I'll find them.


That would make them mafia why? Are you going to lynch anyone who wasnt your bitch? Eradicate some intelligence from this game?


Well if perchance you are town then the people that aren't following a good case of vivax does shit all as mafia early in the game and we should pressure him generally have TMI and are mafia themselves, there is 0 reason to not form a wagon on you to make you do stuff unless they are scared to look out of place and are mafia.


Well there is SL's argument that he is easier to read as the game progresses.

Then there is someone else's argument that low activity is not scum indicative for vivax, since he has been known to play like that as town. Which makes him only as scummy as all the other inactives.


both of which are bad arguments
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:11 GMT
#1421
and had nothing to do with what people were saying earlier
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