EPTOn December 27 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Usually, yes. But that's usually because you're actually around for the start of the game. This time, you weren't so I interacted with other people instead. By the time I returned to the thread you were gone so I couldn't interact with you. I know Tina said she can read you very well and she called you town. Townreading her means that's good enough for me and I'm feeling lazy so eh.
As for your scumread, I already told you why I don't think TT is scum.
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On December 27 2015 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like... the first thing you usually do in any game is to form a read on me. Here you "form" a read on me due to... association?!?!? You completely ignore my scumread however...
On December 27 2015 22:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's probably kinda true in the sense that there were like 17 pages to read when I woke up and I kinda read them but did it pretty fast so it's likely not everything actually registered.
On December 27 2015 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because it looks like you are both reading the thread and not.
Because it looks like you are both reading the thread and not.
That's probably kinda true in the sense that there were like 17 pages to read when I woke up and I kinda read them but did it pretty fast so it's likely not everything actually registered.
So like... the first thing you usually do in any game is to form a read on me. Here you "form" a read on me due to... association?!?!? You completely ignore my scumread however...
Usually, yes. But that's usually because you're actually around for the start of the game. This time, you weren't so I interacted with other people instead. By the time I returned to the thread you were gone so I couldn't interact with you. I know Tina said she can read you very well and she called you town. Townreading her means that's good enough for me and I'm feeling lazy so eh.
As for your scumread, I already told you why I don't think TT is scum.
O rly. And I just saw you were voting TT. I wonder how that will happen.
On December 27 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
He keeps pushing him on the same thing without getting anything new, basically. Asking questions that lead nowhere which is basically what he's accusing N e s s of.
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On December 27 2015 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That doesn't answer the question.
What has GB pushed him for after the initial questioning?
On December 27 2015 22:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF made a case on Ness, waited for him to respond to it whilst doing other shit and didn't attempt to bury him. I saw direction which I didn't really see with GB whom had to be reminded to look at him. Whereas HF decided he's probably town, GB's still on the fence but it doesn't feel like he's trying to actually find out N e s s's alignment, more just continuously explaining why he has this minor scumread.
On December 27 2015 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Artanis what exactly is different in HF's/GB's questioning on Ness?
This is the only thing GB has "pushed" Ness for after the initial questions. I am like 90% sure if i go to Ness' home forum and pick any mafia game there the game starts with RVS -- which makes this perfectly valid (and unanswered) question.
So, what other difference there is? Is GB pushing Ness as scum rn?
On December 27 2015 14:15 GlowingBear wrote:
You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe
On December 27 2015 14:12 N e s s wrote:
mmmm on the contrary
that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you.
Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game.
please answer my question now.
On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:
It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.
On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:
Food for thought~
Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?
I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.
Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?
On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from
On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:
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Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?
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Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?
It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from
Food for thought~
Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?
I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.
Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?
It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.
mmmm on the contrary
that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you.
Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game.
please answer my question now.
You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe
So Artanis what exactly is different in HF's/GB's questioning on Ness?
This is the only thing GB has "pushed" Ness for after the initial questions. I am like 90% sure if i go to Ness' home forum and pick any mafia game there the game starts with RVS -- which makes this perfectly valid (and unanswered) question.
So, what other difference there is? Is GB pushing Ness as scum rn?
HF made a case on Ness, waited for him to respond to it whilst doing other shit and didn't attempt to bury him. I saw direction which I didn't really see with GB whom had to be reminded to look at him. Whereas HF decided he's probably town, GB's still on the fence but it doesn't feel like he's trying to actually find out N e s s's alignment, more just continuously explaining why he has this minor scumread.
That doesn't answer the question.
What has GB pushed him for after the initial questioning?
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On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:
It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.
On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:
Food for thought~
Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?
I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.
Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?
On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from
On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:
Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?
On December 27 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me ask you something
What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?
On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote:
Alrighty! So, heres my defense.
First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum.
Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on.
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7
You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time.
...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this-
Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose.
this. this rubs me the wrong way.
1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it?
2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me?
3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical.
Smh answered those first 2 already.
but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest.
But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all.
Alrighty! So, heres my defense.
First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum.
Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two:
Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on.
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7
At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything.
You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time.
but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.
...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this-
Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious.
Why would you band wagon this early with no reads?
Why would you band wagon this early with no reads?
Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose.
Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret.
On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious.
On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious.
If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for.
this. this rubs me the wrong way.
1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it?
2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me?
3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical.
1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions?
2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?
3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?
2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?
3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?
Smh answered those first 2 already.
but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest.
But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all.
Let me ask you something
What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?
Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?
It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from
Food for thought~
Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?
I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.
Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?
It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.
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On December 27 2015 14:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I have slight SCUMREADS on you, Tictock (his jokes on hammerig me and stuff seems off, he doesn't seem invested in the game) and ritoky (which I'm not sure anymore)
I have slight SCUMREADS on you, Tictock (his jokes on hammerig me and stuff seems off, he doesn't seem invested in the game) and ritoky (which I'm not sure anymore)
He keeps pushing him on the same thing without getting anything new, basically. Asking questions that lead nowhere which is basically what he's accusing N e s s of.
2 games ago, town GB was pushing TT the entire time for an opening post. Really hardcore begging people to lynch him.
TT can confirm. I wonder if you know that. Probably not. But being stubborn about an opening post is very town GB by meta.
On December 27 2015 23:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which applies my other graph's double no..
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/m653h/daf7a3ca8d.png)
Which applies my other graph's double no..
Having misslynched GB twice in the last 2 games this graph is not correct.
