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On December 27 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
@rayn
im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams.
It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part? IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it. D1 you were quite adamant when i couldnt see it. The problem is gb is posting but not being ADD at all...which is how i read him. like he seems pretty focused on a limited number of things rather than being volatile bear. if youre sure i can drop him for a day cause i like a viva lynch too
Yes.. He also does that as mafia. The thing is it is not townie. This, here, is townie, at least for now -- given the state of the game. It is true it doesn't exactly look like his town play but imo it doesn't look like his mafia play either, and when something is MORE townie than what someone usually does as TOWN, i can't possibly consider them scum for it. 
Did you look at TT's reasoning for his scumreads?
Any comment?
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Man tt post was bad.
Rayn totes town so now I can sound board off him without butting heads.
I think koshi and exo are town also.
So town: exo, ness, truffle, art, koshi, RS, rayn, ritoky,
still town lean: tt
what do you think of that list besides tt for you rayn?
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Also I forgot but I am leaning town on GB now
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omg... at this rate I cannot learn to cope under suspicion.
Let's wait on Onegu I guess..
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Mrt ok i can drop it for now rayn
ill revisit...its bad that i read it and cant remember what he said already though lol
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On December 27 2015 12:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you think Artanis is scum or town or anything? Nh, i kinda think town or pocketing me hard tbh. its not a well-developed read
Okay we are in the same boat with where his alignment falls atm.
Like some things look very town but there are a few really weird things in his filter. Like the Trfel townread (well not that in itself) but the followup... Is like... meh. I also didn't like the GB question from him because considering N e s s as mafia at that point was imo perfectly reasonable.
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On December 27 2015 12:27 Damdred wrote:
Man tt post was bad.
Rayn totes town so now I can sound board off him without butting heads.
I think koshi and exo are town also.
So town: exo, ness, truffle, art, koshi, RS, rayn, ritoky,
still town lean: tt
what do you think of that list besides tt for you rayn?
I disagree with the Artanis read.
I somewhat disagree with ritoky. He looks town but in the last game he was fucking supertown so he should play up to that if he is town.
Idk why you think Koshi is town? I really don't have a read on him.
I'd add Slam and maybe rsoultin and HF.
was there someone else? prolly not since i don't remember.
i kinda speedread the thread... I thought this would start tomorrow. 
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I don't feel like lynching Vivax at this point
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Rayn what do you think of Ritoky and Ness?
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On December 27 2015 12:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 12:25 rsoultin wrote:On December 27 2015 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you think Artanis is scum or town or anything? Nh, i kinda think town or pocketing me hard tbh. its not a well-developed read Okay we are in the same boat with where his alignment falls atm. Like some things look very town but there are a few really weird things in his filter. Like the Trfel townread (well not that in itself) but the followup... Is like... meh. I also didn't like the GB question from him because considering N e s s as mafia at that point was imo perfectly reasonable.
Hm. Well art has been relying more on tone recently than he used to and ness was pretty tonally town so it didnt bug me too much, but i gey where youre coming from.
As for tt, idk. The scumreads seem rather lazy. smurf thing is an ick reason but his ness scumread is focusing on scummy things i guess even if i disagree that scum posts so blatantly scummy. he could believe it maybe?
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On December 27 2015 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn what do you think of Ritoky and Ness?
I think i just answered that.
If you want something more specific go ahead and lay it out.
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@Rayn
On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel
This post of him felt really scummy to me. I kinda liked his answer but I asked more questions and I don't remember him answering it yet. What do you think of it?
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On December 27 2015 12:35 rsoultin wrote:
As for tt, idk. The scumreads seem rather lazy. smurf thing is an ick reason but his ness scumread is focusing on scummy things i guess even if i disagree that scum posts so blatantly scummy. he could believe it maybe?
The kush thing is basically at best him not reading the thread properly -- it was pointed out by HF already that kush outed his smurf in another thread, there is absolutely nothing scummy in it.
Ness' play looks more like he (she?) just doesn't know who is scum and isn't overplaying anything. I don't know where the "he doesn't follow up on his questions" comes from because basically noone ever answered him in the first place....... It just doesn't make any sense to scumread Ness here, it would make sense to not townread him -- but scumread is definitely not a legit read, at least for those reasons imo.
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This was his answer:
On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel Why is Artanis town? Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia? Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia? artanis is freely posting thoughts instead of releasing them in blocks of text. artans waits, sounds calculated, and posts in paragraphs/walls when he is scum. slam and rsoul are doing things that aren't alignment indicative but make me like them; plus slam is just hot irl. you're mafia because town GB calls that guy an idiot or worthless, town GB doesn't call him mafia. trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia. we done with your shitter read? ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/c5d1933f5de28e7d39fe5405c65188fb/tumblr_mzb0vb9qKx1t7d0aqo1_250.gif)
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On December 27 2015 12:39 GlowingBear wrote:@Rayn Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel This post of him felt really scummy to me. I kinda liked his answer but I asked more questions and I don't remember him answering it yet. What do you think of it?
I don't think the "pocketing me" category can be considered non-joke, at least i consider it as a semi-joke at least.
I can see why he thinks you are / were mafia when he made the post. I can also understand the town reads.
The only thing i don't really get is the Trfel read, which gives me a pause on ritoky. I heavily disagree with that read.
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Yeah i dont have a good read either way on tt. Seemed fairly comfortable start but he wasnt really talking about the game there, just joking, which can be easy to do once youve played enough games.
I could see him believing his scumreads.
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Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.
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On December 27 2015 12:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 12:39 GlowingBear wrote:@Rayn On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel This post of him felt really scummy to me. I kinda liked his answer but I asked more questions and I don't remember him answering it yet. What do you think of it? I don't think the "pocketing me" category can be considered non-joke, at least i consider it as a semi-joke at least. I can see why he thinks you are / were mafia when he made the post. I can also understand the town reads. The only thing i don't really get is the Trfel read, which gives me a pause on ritoky. I heavily disagree with that read.
Hmm...
Okay
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On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.
its bad to go off of meta.
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