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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:01 GMT
#461
On December 27 2015 11:44 rsoultin wrote:
Hf and slam to town pile

I hate you for being more articulate than me hf :/

Rayn, bad. bad. bad rayn. drams was a clusterfuck d1 cause i was having difficulty finding scum which led to the whole marv fiasco. this is not comparable at all. this is clarity.

You think gb looking more town (please define what you mean here) than he normally does as town is a good thing?

I obviously understand what youy mean here. The point was you have been wrong on his alignment before, which you basically claimed you havent. Yes, the situation was "different", but that doesnt change the fact you can be wrong on him.

GB is actually not makig shit out of shit that doesn't mean shit and most likely trying to genuiinely figure out shit.

You know hat; If you want to lynch him, go ahead. If it's you and HF, especially if someone like Artanis / Damdred joins there you are gonna get you lynch, most likely. But you are most likely wrong. I am not going to use my limited time here woth nonsense like arguing about reads like this -- especailly since whenever i listen to other people i am gonna go super wrong adn then people come tell me it was somehow my responsibility to do the right thing when 100% of the other people couldn't do it.

I am just gonna have a nice game with glasses of red wine i got for Xmas and tell who i think is scum and who isn't.
<3

##unvote
##vote TicTock
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 03:03 GMT
#462
On December 27 2015 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think the best players to lynch today are Vivax for my preceding posts:

On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.


He has been present since then and is only concerned with Koshi's riddle in the meantime.


As another candidate I also think GB could be mafia;

His posts towards N E S S were barebones and unable to really follow up on anything meaningful and his suspicion has seemingly been dropped off the planet since then, he was in fact more concerned with being accused by rsoultin and trying to get her to change her mind rather than following up with N E S S:

It's not an attempt to discredit, dear. I think you are wrong instead of Mafia, and knowing that you were wrong on me before reinforces the perspective where you're town here. And, since you usually can read me well, I'm not worried about a read you have on the first hours of the game. There is plenty of time until you can correctly read me.

On December 27 2015 10:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, dear, the way you inquired me about my lack of reaction in you scum reading me felt townie. You call me Mafia, I don't OMGUS, you find it weird and you decide to investigate this better. I can see a person trying to confirm suspicions on my alignment rather than trying to force a wagon on me.

Also, if you were Mafia, I don't think you would risk getting tunneled by me like that. You could simply town read me and go after a better target.



The rest of his posts are very empty and just questions that do not lead anything such as: "Why do you think that?" "Elaborate," "Calm down."

This speaks of a GB who wants to be friends with everyone rather than a GB that wants to solve the game IMO. Things may change, they may not, GB I am on to you.



Oh boy.

I'm feeling it.

It's coming.


Are you or are you not concerned about the responses of your initial scum read? To me it looks like you want to take him to a nice spa and give him a massage while you regale him with tales of your youthful antics.

You haven't questioned N E S S at all.


I didn't? I am questioning and I'm also letting you question him and evaluating what has been said. I asked him for his scum reads, he picked sicklucker. He said he was going to give his town reads later, and you asked a good question about his defense which has yet to be answered. I'm waiting for it. Meanwhile I am trying to gather informstion about other players.

So what if I ask him to calm down? I don't know his alignment and he has a chance on being town legit upset. I don't understand why I can't be kind to a newbie even when I have a slight scum read on him


I am placated by your response for now and question why you are not lynching Vivax with me or Ticktock with Rayn.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:04 GMT
#463
To further my case;

TicTock was more interested in talking about his townreads (which he claimed are not really town reads) instead of his scumreads. As scumreads he just pointed out (easy) names.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 03:05 GMT
#464
Why would anybody use a smurf instead of his main account? Sense it makes none.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:06 GMT
#465
And don't get me wrong,kush can still easily be scum.
Just not that sure about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:06 GMT
#466
On December 27 2015 12:05 Koshi wrote:
Why would anybody use a smurf instead of his main account? Sense it makes none.

Because people are stupid.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 03:06 GMT
#467
On December 27 2015 12:05 Koshi wrote:
Why would anybody use a smurf instead of his main account? Sense it makes none.

On December 22 2015 08:42 kushm4sta wrote:
dude actually i want to smurf because kush is inappropes for work

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 27 2015 03:06 GMT
#468
On December 27 2015 12:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think the best players to lynch today are Vivax for my preceding posts:

On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.


He has been present since then and is only concerned with Koshi's riddle in the meantime.


As another candidate I also think GB could be mafia;

His posts towards N E S S were barebones and unable to really follow up on anything meaningful and his suspicion has seemingly been dropped off the planet since then, he was in fact more concerned with being accused by rsoultin and trying to get her to change her mind rather than following up with N E S S:

It's not an attempt to discredit, dear. I think you are wrong instead of Mafia, and knowing that you were wrong on me before reinforces the perspective where you're town here. And, since you usually can read me well, I'm not worried about a read you have on the first hours of the game. There is plenty of time until you can correctly read me.

On December 27 2015 10:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, dear, the way you inquired me about my lack of reaction in you scum reading me felt townie. You call me Mafia, I don't OMGUS, you find it weird and you decide to investigate this better. I can see a person trying to confirm suspicions on my alignment rather than trying to force a wagon on me.

Also, if you were Mafia, I don't think you would risk getting tunneled by me like that. You could simply town read me and go after a better target.



The rest of his posts are very empty and just questions that do not lead anything such as: "Why do you think that?" "Elaborate," "Calm down."

This speaks of a GB who wants to be friends with everyone rather than a GB that wants to solve the game IMO. Things may change, they may not, GB I am on to you.



Oh boy.

I'm feeling it.

It's coming.


Are you or are you not concerned about the responses of your initial scum read? To me it looks like you want to take him to a nice spa and give him a massage while you regale him with tales of your youthful antics.

You haven't questioned N E S S at all.


I didn't? I am questioning and I'm also letting you question him and evaluating what has been said. I asked him for his scum reads, he picked sicklucker. He said he was going to give his town reads later, and you asked a good question about his defense which has yet to be answered. I'm waiting for it. Meanwhile I am trying to gather informstion about other players.

So what if I ask him to calm down? I don't know his alignment and he has a chance on being town legit upset. I don't understand why I can't be kind to a newbie even when I have a slight scum read on him


I am placated by your response for now and question why you are not lynching Vivax with me or Ticktock with Rayn.


What does placated means?

I have no reason to vote any of them. Maybe Tictock, but Vivax is most likely a null atm than a scum read
I'm adorable.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 03:07 GMT
#469
On December 27 2015 11:27 sicklucker wrote:
its just funny that you scum read me for making a sarcastic post. but if you ignore the sarcastic part im doing a very townie thing asking you about your mafia history


pretty meh about this self-aware part of this post. could be mafia frustrated about not getting townreads for things he thinks he should be TR for.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2015 03:07 GMT
#470
On December 27 2015 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To further my case;

TicTock was more interested in talking about his townreads (which he claimed are not really town reads) instead of his scumreads. As scumreads he just pointed out (easy) names.


I am on board with a TickTock lynch as well as Vivax, especially Vivax.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:09 GMT
#471
Let me read Vivax.
First impression is that i don't remember anything he has posted so he could be scum very well.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 27 2015 03:10 GMT
#472
On December 27 2015 11:37 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.

Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.

No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi

I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything.

this.

why lynch me or noonian?


You kus you posted a bunch of questions to everyone but haven't really used peoples responses to further reads. Also these:
On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote:
And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad.

He could be mafia,
[image loading]


On December 27 2015 11:22 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)



+ Show Spoiler +
1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.

In your picture it would be:

Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"


2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.


first one is correct


Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else.

The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate.

The situation would go as follows:

As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White".

Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat.

Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".

^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with

Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username.

But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?

To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.)
I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm.


Much more important than who is town

Who is Mafia?

Choose one person with not much to go off of?

Sicklucker, just because.
That or whoever seems scummiest rn i don't care enough to do anything


On December 27 2015 11:24 N e s s wrote:
*as to why sicklucker

his posts are annoying me. he's giving me a gut feeling of him being scum.

Butttt Ness! Isn't Glowbunny scummier?

Gb seems good. He was going after me, which seems alright. While others did too i don't think he's mafia atm.


Noonian mostly kus of the smurf thing.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:11 GMT
#473
On December 27 2015 10:40 Vivax wrote:
I just disagree with your reads and Damdred's too when I think they aren't warranted, there is no intent to discredit anyone, but I'll let you know that ritoky town and GB mafia is not what I'm seeing in their posts so far.

Oh yeah there was this which was basically disagreeing with just for the sake of disagreeing ("no reasoning"), instead of legitmately poiniting out his own read even don't align with them.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:15 GMT
#474
It's like.... It looks like the post i just quoted is like an infinite pointless bunch of nothing.
Like it doesn't really try to achieve anything, it doesn't question anything, hell it doesn't even accuse anyone of anything -- it's just " there is no intent to discredit anyone".
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 27 2015 03:16 GMT
#475
Koshi to town pile.

@rayn

im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams.

Ill look at tt but honestly i doubt i know him well enough for a d1 read of any worth
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:19 GMT
#476
On December 27 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
@rayn

im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams.

It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part?
IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 27 2015 03:19 GMT
#477
Lol rayn is town anyway so theres that
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 27 2015 03:21 GMT
#478
Do you think Artanis is scum or town or anything?
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 27 2015 03:23 GMT
#479
On December 27 2015 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
@rayn

im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams.

It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part?
IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it.


D1 you were quite adamant when i couldnt see it. The problem is gb is posting but not being ADD at all...which is how i read him. like he seems pretty focused on a limited number of things rather than being volatile bear. if youre sure i can drop him for a day cause i like a viva lynch too
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 27 2015 03:25 GMT
#480
On December 27 2015 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you think Artanis is scum or town or anything?


Nh, i kinda think town or pocketing me hard tbh. its not a well-developed read
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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