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On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't.
So the only reason you are scum reading me is VCA?
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On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't.
Exo continues to refuse to understand the game because it's easier.
I didn't switch because GB was my wagon, I was sure on him. Yes, I always hedge a bit and waffle, but that's pretty normal.
Why would I then immediately go on to point out that GB didn't vote on his counterwagon, and proceed to instantly vote slam the next day?
hurr durr save godfather.
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On January 09 2016 09:10 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't. So the only reason you are scum reading me is VCA?
I'm scumming you b/c of how little you've done during the game. Like out of all the people here you've done just about the least in regards to solving the game. Ironically if not for the fake claim I wouldn't have any doubt in my mind. The fake claim doesn't make sense on the surface from a scum perspective. But everything else tells me you're scum.
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On January 09 2016 09:13 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 09:10 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't. So the only reason you are scum reading me is VCA? I'm scumming you b/c of how little you've done during the game. Like out of all the people here you've done just about the least in regards to solving the game. Ironically if not for the fake claim I wouldn't have any doubt in my mind. The fake claim doesn't make sense on the surface from a scum perspective. But everything else tells me you're scum.
If if I told you that is NAI for me and multiple other people tell you my activity and whatnot is NAI how do you respond?
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On January 09 2016 08:46 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:On January 09 2016 08:28 Damdred wrote:
Shining answer me this, why as scum do I
1) Lead a shenanigans d1 on Rels when I had a town lynch in Tt sewed up.
2) Everyone basically who has died has town read me hard, why would I kill these people
3) led shenanigans or attempted shenanigans onto godfather slam when the cop was still alive.
4) as non godfather open myself up for a cop check by cc Tt knowing he would flip town.
If you can answer the scum,motivation besides ducking tinfoil you :/ an suck read me until then do something useful Wow look at that tone you take with someone you've had as town lean to lock town literally all game. You say I'm scum during night phase with a nervous laugh and I don't let it get to me but that's how you react to a tinfoil post?? Noted. It's tinfoil and a bit if a fear read since you're not a bad scum player and you're still alive d5 even though multiple NKs + alive players townread you. But your reaction is bad, especially after doing the same thing to me, and you should feel bad You still fail to answer the questions and comment on tome when people who should obviously town read me start sliding back into scum reading me. Look at my record I make it to a lot of lylo and late games.
You did the same shit to me first. Shining is scum haha when you're basically the only one who had a correct read on me. Of course I'm going to question where the town motivation is in that and if you are really town after that.
1- I voted right when you did. Why am I more likely to do it as scum than you are? It's a wifom argument and you're good enough to know how to spin that in your favor
2- eternal town reads. I've killed you for this before in my last scum game, so it's not like it's impossible. They town you, you kill them before you can reconsider.
3- there is still a rolecop. I have no way of knowing if SL was rcd the night phase before the Slam shenanny occurs and he was the preplanned NK the next night, anyway. But it's not impossible. And my tinfoil gets stronger when you flip your read on me during night phase for no Damn reason
4- no idea, honestly, and that's why you were at the very end of my POE with a sigh. Because if you did this as scum, it's really risky but you've also explained it away really well.
None of this makes you lock scum but it does raise questions when you hard town me all game then call me scum after ritoky, kush and palmar all include me in their POE.
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On January 09 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't. Exo continues to refuse to understand the game because it's easier. I didn't switch because GB was my wagon, I was sure on him. Yes, I always hedge a bit and waffle, but that's pretty normal. Why would I then immediately go on to point out that GB didn't vote on his counterwagon, and proceed to instantly vote slam the next day? hurr durr save godfather.
I mean you know the cop is dead and can't call slam green anymore at that point. Which is the entire point of saving the GF: get the cop to clear him as green. Since SL popped up as the dead cop that play is no longer going to work.
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On January 09 2016 09:13 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 09:13 ExO_ wrote:On January 09 2016 09:10 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't. So the only reason you are scum reading me is VCA? I'm scumming you b/c of how little you've done during the game. Like out of all the people here you've done just about the least in regards to solving the game. Ironically if not for the fake claim I wouldn't have any doubt in my mind. The fake claim doesn't make sense on the surface from a scum perspective. But everything else tells me you're scum. If if I told you that is NAI for me and multiple other people tell you my activity and whatnot is NAI how do you respond?
NAI = ?
Either way then I would say you should play differently. If you're telling me to rely on what other players meta read you as, when I feel like you are scum, it's not going to happen.
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On January 09 2016 09:15 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 09:11 Palmar wrote:On January 09 2016 09:08 ExO_ wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier regarding the GB/Slam vote. None of the scum players were bussing the God Father, Slam, except for Kush. Palmar and Onegu were both on the GB wagon, not the slam. Palmar tried to act like he was going to switch, but didn't. Exo continues to refuse to understand the game because it's easier. I didn't switch because GB was my wagon, I was sure on him. Yes, I always hedge a bit and waffle, but that's pretty normal. Why would I then immediately go on to point out that GB didn't vote on his counterwagon, and proceed to instantly vote slam the next day? hurr durr save godfather. I mean you know the cop is dead and can't call slam green anymore at that point. Which is the entire point of saving the GF: get the cop to clear him as green. Since SL popped up as the dead cop that play is no longer going to work.
Let's assume I AM INDEED MAFIA.
Why would I ever shoot SL, he was my strongest supporter?
answer: I might have known he was cop.
But if that is the case, then I would have known that at the beginning of the night.
soo....
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On January 09 2016 09:01 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 08:59 The Shining wrote:On January 09 2016 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Position of vote doesn't mean who led a shenanigans at all and you know that palmar.
Rels posted I started hammering away at him, Tt hit hi a vote there I continue hitting at him you put your vote lots of people move I hammer him at that point when I know it a secured.
Ok and who voted Rels literally right when you did after scumming TT during day phase? Don't know why that matters when I think your town?
That's not what you put into the thread last night, which is what started this whole tinfoil. What motivation would you have to put that in thread, even as a joke, when you're heavily towned and think I'm town? Couple that with your reaction to me saying you could be scum if I'm wrong on my first 3 and telling me to be useful when you know I react to shit like that to the point where I'll tilt is anti-town, especially if you think I'm town.
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On January 09 2016 08:55 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 08:30 nooniansoong wrote:
@shining let's talk about this recent desire to lynch me next.
I didn't react to OO.. what's to react to. He's confirmed town unless we get a CC today.
You want me to say "OH SHIT MY POE WAS WRONG"?
What is scummy about me wanting to lynch onegu over you? (not that I do want to do that)
I haven't been exactly scum forever on you. I've been wavering between you and exo being scum or not for the past several days. If oo is confirmed town, you're wrong on at least 1 of your POE. Instead of trying to reconsider, or make any sort of case for why onegu or myself are scum, you resort to suggesting a plynch late in the game, then backtrack and say you're not serious. You think. So what do you gain from posting any of that? You scummed me after our interaction d1/n1, can't remember, but it was Damn early and only recently started to waffle between exo and myself. But I've been in a bunch of your poe lately, which makes me wonder why you'd mention a plynch instead of casing scum. And you rushing me to respond to you is trash, since my last response was to Damdred and was a post before yours. I'm phone posting, I'm not going to immediately respond to everything at once.
you need to chill out bro. We can be friends and still be on opposite alignments, right?
ya sorry I rushed you. I thought you ignored me.
Yes I realize my PoE from earlier is wrong. You wanted me to post another one right away? That would have made me look townier?
"let's plynch onegu" - You are implying that I was serious. Can you think a few levels deep on this one and reconsider?
You ask, what do I gain from posting that? Nothing. But what do I gain as scum? Also nothing.
Obviously people aren't going to want to "plynch" this late in the game. So that wording had to be snarky and not genuine. Do I want to lynch onegu over you or exo? I don't know. Right now I'm thinking you are the best lynch and I might have to hard defend exo today. But I'm not sure before I filter dive or talk to you guys more.
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On January 09 2016 09:14 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 08:46 Damdred wrote:On January 09 2016 08:42 The Shining wrote:On January 09 2016 08:28 Damdred wrote:
Shining answer me this, why as scum do I
1) Lead a shenanigans d1 on Rels when I had a town lynch in Tt sewed up.
2) Everyone basically who has died has town read me hard, why would I kill these people
3) led shenanigans or attempted shenanigans onto godfather slam when the cop was still alive.
4) as non godfather open myself up for a cop check by cc Tt knowing he would flip town.
If you can answer the scum,motivation besides ducking tinfoil you :/ an suck read me until then do something useful Wow look at that tone you take with someone you've had as town lean to lock town literally all game. You say I'm scum during night phase with a nervous laugh and I don't let it get to me but that's how you react to a tinfoil post?? Noted. It's tinfoil and a bit if a fear read since you're not a bad scum player and you're still alive d5 even though multiple NKs + alive players townread you. But your reaction is bad, especially after doing the same thing to me, and you should feel bad You still fail to answer the questions and comment on tome when people who should obviously town read me start sliding back into scum reading me. Look at my record I make it to a lot of lylo and late games. You did the same shit to me first. Shining is scum haha when you're basically the only one who had a correct read on me. Of course I'm going to question where the town motivation is in that and if you are really town after that. 1- I voted right when you did. Why am I more likely to do it as scum than you are? It's a wifom argument and you're good enough to know how to spin that in your favor 2- eternal town reads. I've killed you for this before in my last scum game, so it's not like it's impossible. They town you, you kill them before you can reconsider. 3- there is still a rolecop. I have no way of knowing if SL was rcd the night phase before the Slam shenanny occurs and he was the preplanned NK the next night, anyway. But it's not impossible. And my tinfoil gets stronger when you flip your read on me during night phase for no Damn reason 4- no idea, honestly, and that's why you were at the very end of my POE with a sigh. Because if you did this as scum, it's really risky but you've also explained it away really well. None of this makes you lock scum but it does raise questions when you hard town me all game then call me scum after ritoky, kush and palmar all include me in their POE.
1) I've hard defended you basically all game the moment you were posting.
2) obviously you can't read a joke when I just got done hard defending you and nothing happened in between.
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Shining looks kiiind of town in this other conversation that's going on.
In fact, shining seems to look kind of maybe town every time he's in the thread, but it's so little that meeeh.
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I really need to sleep.
I somehow won dota even though I kept tabbing out. ez game.
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Palmar only plays dota when he a scum ezgame
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new meta: when i play dota but keep playing mafia anyway im town
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Onegu
Kush
Damdred -- Town
OO -- Town
ExO -- Town
Ritoky
OWS -- Town
Shining -- Town
Palmar
3 scum slots for 4 players: Palmar/Ritoky/Kush/Onegu Out of these 3 names, there are 4 scum. And I guess there's an incredibly off chance Damdred is scum. If he is scum, he fooled me well.
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I kinda want to say that I should be confirmed to damdred because he knows I think he's good and therefore would have shot him but that would open him up to claiming the same to me so I'm easy
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On January 09 2016 09:25 ExO_ wrote:
Onegu
Kush
Damdred -- Town
OO -- Town
ExO -- Town
Ritoky
OWS -- Town
Shining -- Town
Palmar
3 scum slots for 4 players: Palmar/Ritoky/Kush/Onegu Out of these 3 names, there are 4 scum. And I guess there's an incredibly off chance Damdred is scum. If he is scum, he fooled me well.
WHy is shining for likely town than damdred?
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On January 09 2016 09:19 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 08:55 The Shining wrote:On January 09 2016 08:30 nooniansoong wrote:
@shining let's talk about this recent desire to lynch me next.
I didn't react to OO.. what's to react to. He's confirmed town unless we get a CC today.
You want me to say "OH SHIT MY POE WAS WRONG"?
What is scummy about me wanting to lynch onegu over you? (not that I do want to do that)
I haven't been exactly scum forever on you. I've been wavering between you and exo being scum or not for the past several days. If oo is confirmed town, you're wrong on at least 1 of your POE. Instead of trying to reconsider, or make any sort of case for why onegu or myself are scum, you resort to suggesting a plynch late in the game, then backtrack and say you're not serious. You think. So what do you gain from posting any of that? You scummed me after our interaction d1/n1, can't remember, but it was Damn early and only recently started to waffle between exo and myself. But I've been in a bunch of your poe lately, which makes me wonder why you'd mention a plynch instead of casing scum. And you rushing me to respond to you is trash, since my last response was to Damdred and was a post before yours. I'm phone posting, I'm not going to immediately respond to everything at once. you need to chill out bro. We can be friends and still be on opposite alignments, right? ya sorry I rushed you. I thought you ignored me. Yes I realize my PoE from earlier is wrong. You wanted me to post another one right away? That would have made me look townier? "let's plynch onegu" - You are implying that I was serious. Can you think a few levels deep on this one and reconsider? You ask, what do I gain from posting that? Nothing. But what do I gain as scum? Also nothing. Obviously people aren't going to want to "plynch" this late in the game. So that wording had to be snarky and not genuine. Do I want to lynch onegu over you or exo? I don't know. Right now I'm thinking you are the best lynch and I might have to hard defend exo today. But I'm not sure before I filter dive or talk to you guys more.
Sure, after the game. I'm actually a pretty nice guy when I wanna be. But us being opposite alignments means you're scum and Idk how to be nice to scum trying to ML me.
Why are you concerned with what would make you look townier if you think I'm scum? You also didn't say plynching was a joke until you were called on it. It could very well have been a temperature check to see if anyone would roll onboard with it and lynch onegu. That's what you gain as scum.
And no, nothing is obvious when I've seen town do pretty dumb things before. I guess we can talk more after you filter dive, or have anything else to add. I do find it interesting that you don't comment on me being right about you claiming I was scum since our first interaction, though, then subsequently waffling.
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*why is shining more likely scum than damdred?
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