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rsoultin
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@rayn im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams. Ill look at tt but honestly i doubt i know him well enough for a d1 read of any worth | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part? IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it. D1 you were quite adamant when i couldnt see it. The problem is gb is posting but not being ADD at all...which is how i read him. like he seems pretty focused on a limited number of things rather than being volatile bear. if youre sure i can drop him for a day cause i like a viva lynch too | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think Artanis is scum or town or anything? Nh, i kinda think town or pocketing me hard tbh. its not a well-developed read | ||
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ill revisit...its bad that i read it and cant remember what he said already though lol | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay we are in the same boat with where his alignment falls atm. Like some things look very town but there are a few really weird things in his filter. Like the Trfel townread (well not that in itself) but the followup... Is like... meh. I also didn't like the GB question from him because considering N e s s as mafia at that point was imo perfectly reasonable. Hm. Well art has been relying more on tone recently than he used to and ness was pretty tonally town so it didnt bug me too much, but i gey where youre coming from. As for tt, idk. The scumreads seem rather lazy. smurf thing is an ick reason but his ness scumread is focusing on scummy things i guess even if i disagree that scum posts so blatantly scummy. he could believe it maybe? | ||
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I could see him believing his scumreads. | ||
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On December 27 2015 12:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: The kush thing is basically at best him not reading the thread properly -- it was pointed out by HF already that kush outed his smurf in another thread, there is absolutely nothing scummy in it. Ness' play looks more like he (she?) just doesn't know who is scum and isn't overplaying anything. I don't know where the "he doesn't follow up on his questions" comes from because basically noone ever answered him in the first place....... It just doesn't make any sense to scumread Ness here, it would make sense to not townread him -- but scumread is definitely not a legit read, at least for those reasons imo. Nh i was looking mostly at the bolded sections of the quoted posts. and yeah the kush smurf read is ick. Idk could be. Could lynch but i cant say that im fully convinced hes scum | ||
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Lol im just gonna call you town <3 for the day | ||
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Uber cuteness ^^ Its more just that hes a new fish in a big pond with suspicion on him already but still is unafraid to post and contradict ppl. i dont see him being this relaxed as scum in a new environment and its enough to townread him for the day and focus on others i think | ||
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On December 27 2015 16:43 Trfel wrote: To throw my reputation out the window or not...... Meh, I guess I'll go for it. rsoultin? (runs for cover) >> and here i was compiling reads before bed. tsk tsk course blah that's too much work so i'm just gonna glance down the player lynch and do shitty lists! \o/ Town (in no particular order cause why) Coag Damdy rayn art slam koshi truffle - cuz otherwise he's a stupid little mafioso  No Lynch D1 N e s s ritoky - think is town and rayn is wrong, but could fool me hf - could fool me Preferred lynches Viva GB (maybe...kinda don't want to let this one go cause i'll be mad if y'all talked me out of it and he ends up being scum) OWS Could lynch noon (doesn't sit right...not too familiar with kush, but is he normally this much of a pussy? i know he frequently afks as town and gets mislynched) tt (more cause i know rayn is town and don't mind sheeping him than because i really feel he's scum, but whatevs. rayn picks up on things i don't ^^) sl (voting the wrong dude  )yup didn't include anyone i don't have an opinion on (though i may have forgotten people too, and that should worry them for being forgettable ^^) | ||
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hrum | ||
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On December 27 2015 17:08 ExO_ wrote: So far for me: Town: Damdred, ritoky Questionable: HF, trfel, artanis When I pushed Damdred for responses, he answered me. I think he could've very easily brushed me off with the mood in the thread at the time, but he didn't. Good enough so far for me. ritoky changed his logic and thinking on trfel mid post. Though I guess it's not necessarily alignment indicative I think backing off of trfel mid post as he types, seems towny to me. I don't see the incentive to do this if he was scum. Artanis/trfel - I initially had them both as town reads. Both of them seem to be playing off each other. Artansis specifically asking trfel what he thinks about something, then trfel coming in. But when I took a closer look at the filter, trfel immediately after scum reading me (following in artanis's lead) backs off it when the thread starts to shift away from scum reading me. I lean town on these 2 for now, but I think they're the same alignment: either both town or both scum. HF - Not a big fan of HF so far. Really pushing Vivax based only on his lack of responding. At first he was only questioning others without offering his own reads, but he did start to at least back up some of his reads in the bottom half of P1 in his filter. I'm not convinced this super heavy pushing of Vivax is entirely justified just yet. I think I really dislike HF's style of heavy asking questions rather than presenting a case, but this doesn't make him scum. I think in general HF asks too many questions that ultimately don't help with solving the game, while simultaneously offering up very little of his (is it her? I seem to recall HF being a woman) own opinions. But if I recall correctly I've had this opinion of HF in other games and it was incorrect. I lean scum on HF but not very heavily. Those are my initial impressions of people that have stuck out to me so far. i'd pout for old time's sake but honestly...eh i've been kinda not bothering with you either ^^ hihi! disagree on the vivax thing with hf, predominately because it is known that vivax will play as town and not as scum, though it's also true that viva has been mislynched for deliberately playing to his scum meta as town (no i don't understand why people use this cop out way of making themselves harder to read instead of just working on their scum game, but whatevs). that's all to say i think it's a legit enough read PLUS if hf is scum he'd 100% buss a scum viva who wasn't playing anyway, so this doesn't really matter imo i like that you're focusing on the big names instead of lynchbait tho ^^ might bump you into my do not lynch pile with oneg now i really should sleep :/ | ||
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but as for my ows read, he was just sitting there asking questions when i asked him if he'd finished reading yet, because it was kinda obvious he hadn't. when i said "just spinning your wheels" i meant he was doing nothing of any significance. he gave a couple reads after that but it was pretty blah to me. maybe i should give him towncred for admitting he wasn't reading the game when i called him out on it but i don't really think it means anything when he was already caught with his hand in the cookie jar so to speak as for hf, he and rit both just seem to be seeing the game similarly to the way i am. which either means they're town or i'm very wrong ^^ since i'm capable of being very wrong and they're capable of fooling me as scum, they get fun waffly disclaimers. tbf though i kinda feel like hf's approach here where he questions people and gives them room is more town indicative. i remember his scum play being more aggressive than this and this reminds me more of how he questioned slam in some town game that i forget. it might have been the one we were both nk'd n1 i don't remember | ||
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On December 27 2015 17:18 ExO_ wrote: why's onegu in a do not lynch pile? The guy's done nothing in the game this far. Until he actually makes some effort I don't see why he shouldn't be lynched as an inactive for instance. What makes you think he's worth keeping so far? gut feels i won't discuss at this time | ||
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On December 27 2015 17:27 Trfel wrote: Thanks rsoultin, I guess I'll probably have to re-evaluate tomorrow. I can't trust myself to think right now For later, but, that game where Holyflare questioned Alakaslam... Were you thinking of Guardians of the Galaxy mafia? Because that's the game I thought of, and I checked it, and it didn't feel similar to this at all. Though Holyflare is clearly using a different style this game (which I don't think is very alignment indicative, if anything slightly town indicative), so I don't feel comfortable with the meta. Anyway, I'm not really sure about Holyflare All I do know is that I refuse to mislynch him, and I'm not going to scumread him for stupid reasons, but I suffer from extreme paranoia, so I have a lot of things to work through.@ExO_, historically rsoultin has been good at tone reading Onegu. At least, I'm pretty sure that she thinks so  nh one game i decided i wanted to push lynchbait onegu and did a thorough dive of his past games, and i've been pretty accurate since, this is true. it's early to call this read rock solid, though, so gut feel it is and yes, that's probably the one? maybe? it was the one where slam was trying to play more serious and hf went after him for it but was still leaving things open for slam to defend himself i know that the play isn't exact here and i'm not saying i'm sure on hf cause obviously i'm not, but i think of his play in...himalayas that's the one...where he was super aggressive and i'd say this is closer to his town play. one thing i admire about his play (and really all the better players on this site) is their ability to resist getting tunneled at least to some extent. take it or leave it but that's why i'm inclined to townread him even though i know he's one of the best scumplayers on TL | ||
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knowing how much effort you put into games, truffle wuffle, all i can say is you're very much wasting your time here ^^ even if you can't get over your paranoia it would serve you better to look elsewhere for my so-called "scum-mates" | ||
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On December 27 2015 18:01 Onegu wrote: HAHAHAHA Rsoul is scum. She wants to put me in her no lynch pile because she knows I would OMGUS her so hard so she tries to buddy me. BUT I MINDTRICKED HER SO HARD. drat :/ you caught me | ||
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On December 27 2015 18:03 Onegu wrote: Baby Seals + Show Spoiler + shh. maybe the stupid townies won't notice >> they are pretty good at ignoring onegus | ||
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