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On December 28 2015 00:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe the kush smurf is actually kush, i would never expect kush to enter the game "hey folks im gonna work on my read accuracy", as if kush ever cared about such a thing. Kush is like the joker he just does stuff This is a blatant post that much like TickTock proves that Vivax wasn't reading the thread AT ALL and just jumped on something that his defender (SL) was posting because SL wasn't also reading the thread. Nobody even jumped on this. People not reading the thread: TickTock, SL, Vivax
How do you know this?
Kus it's def not true and there is 100% every reason to think the opposite for all of us I think (even Vivax, a little).
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On December 28 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote:
So kush is now a good lynch to a point.
Also...shining could be a good lynch
If anyone cares what I think
I listen damdred.
Twice as hard when I'm scum ^.^
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On December 28 2015 01:52 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. This post is scummy imo. Scum Ticktock Exo Ticktock isn't focused in the game at all, he even said it as a post, and that post of his above is making me think he's scum. And Exo because i thought he was town earlier in game, but to me him getting mad is more of him going all Gung Ho on everybody. But if vivax ever makes a defense, i'm going to change my vote to TickTock.
Didn't you already ask me about this and stuff?
Also Exo is not scum.
Still pretty sure you are mafia just jumping on all the easy shit going on.
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On December 28 2015 04:46 Holyflare wrote:What's the point in playing when the 2 people I want to vote have wagons on them and there are like a million people afk? 0 point 
Did I miss you give a read on me?
Or you fine with it just kus?
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On December 28 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:
Got some food poisoning or someshit this morning so been kinda out of it today.
Will be catching up and whatnot as I can at work. You can go to work with food poisoning? I think not my friend.
Yep, sick around 9, get that shit all outta your system, head in by 1 with a couple hours extra sleep to get over it.
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On December 28 2015 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Oh that makes sense, there wasn't actually a case. Most of your inital post on TT was bitching about how me and GB were reading GB poorly. Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To further my case;
TicTock was more interested in talking about his townreads (which he claimed are not really town reads) instead of his scumreads. As scumreads he just pointed out (easy) names. Actually my main reason for scumming TT is a discrepancy in appearance; on one hand, giving (weak) reads. On the other hand, claiming not to really care and playing the bravado card.
Why is this a discrepency?
Even though I'm halfassing this game (which I said when I /in'd btw) I'm still gunna react to stuff and post right? Naturally making reads is part of that.
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On December 28 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
anyone want to lynch koshi because I might be open to that
No, not at all actually. Why do you?
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On December 28 2015 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 10:04 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:18 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 14:15 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:12 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
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It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from Food for thought~ Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is? I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum. Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum? It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment. mmmm on the contrary that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you. Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game. please answer my question now. You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe I find you being town hard to believe. Nobody's even told me why we were band wagoning Moose jesus christ. *sighs* Us arguing won't contribute to anything anyway, i'm done with you for now. I have bigger fish to fry then you, my friend c: You said I was town for the way I was pushing you. What changed? I am actually retracting from my townread on Ness. This is one thing. The other thing is he calls sicklucker mafia for "just because". Then he votes for Vivax?!?!?!? Than he says this... Bigger fish to fry? Like.... sicklucker who he has basically no read on and just calls scum? Or Vivax, who is basically a non-poster at that point? Pfft rayn I pointed that out forever ago, and btw yes I still do think Ness is scum No you actually just quoted posts..
Exactly.. I also added a bold.
Ofc you wouldn't notice 
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On December 28 2015 12:20 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 12:11 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 23:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ness is town because he asked this "can you see whos viewing thread" basicly hes asking if people can see if hes lurking or if he can see lurkers.
If hes mafia and he is worried about people seeing him lurk he would ask his mafia qt so this is not possible.
This only leaves the other option that he legitly wants to see if people are lurking.
I think this statement alone makes him town and alot of other people have reasons to think hes town so im sure he is.
The only other option is an intentional dumbtell which is very rare. I dont think a mafia would ask this ever due to being afraid of suspicion My only issue with this thinking is that it could just be a very legit, NAI, question he asked there and you are way overthinking it. I will admit that the nature of the question is more town indicative, but this wont really change my opinion by itself. Huh? Isn't your opinion already changed if you admit to it being town indicative? It's hard to believe you have a strong enough d1 case to counteract someone doing something town indicative.
Actually I think it was a pretty legit NAI question. I can agree town is more likely to ask this about lurkers, but not necessarily kus it's also nice to use that to point fingers as scum.
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On December 28 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:51 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm mafia!
Lynch me
##Vote: GlowingBear Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote? Personally, I could try and get GB killed for 3 games in a row. TT was this serious or not?
Absolutely not.
Was semi-bait.
I think Ness was the only person to react to it till now.
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On December 28 2015 13:35 ritoky wrote:
i really want my question to tt answered, i hope he didn't fuck off
Was work posting, I get short breaks >.<
I'm prob around the rest of the day though.
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On December 28 2015 16:08 Trfel wrote:
Hey, Tictock, we appear to be at exactly the same place in the thread XD
What did you think about the Artanis/raynpelikoneet argument about GlowingBear a page or two ago?
Can you encourage me to keep reading and make it through?
Nope I'm half ignoring rayn kus he had similar reactions to shit about Kush and Ness that I did, but I'm scum for it.
I recall having town feels from them based on that, but tbh it was awhile ago.
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Ok I'm caught up.
I was serious about this:
On December 24 2015 22:46 Tictock wrote:
Wow this game has grown to epic proportions.
/in
My only condition: I refuse to tryhard this game.
So I'm still ok with lynching Ness but I don't think Vivax is a good lynch anymore.
Art's case on Obi is pretty good I think, I also know I don't know how to read Obi and he swore to never play with me after mislynching me in New Personalities.
I'm not at all sure about HF kus I've never played with the guy but I wouldn't trust him right now.
Oh the Kush stuff, yea don't lynch Kush either. Don't know why everyone assumes I should know he outed his smurf in the other game before it got pointed out by HF.
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Yea that's about all the people I care to mention atm.
Gunna do something a lot more fun than read this game now.
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On December 28 2015 18:04 Trfel wrote:
I think I want to lynch nooniansoong.
"I'm going to try hard to work on read accuracy" -> "No reads for a while" -> Townread on Tictock -> Lots of posting with no effort to solve the game
There's really no desire to solve the game, despite him saying early on that he'd try hard to get accurate reads. The suspicions from his first post weren't followed up on at all, either. The number of posts that he made about the game without saying anything at all (his posts show that he knows he isn't doing anything) is remarkable.
Furthermore, the vote on Palmar, without caring to push it, and saying that he's willing to lynch about a dozen people for a policy lynch, seems very mafia-motivated. He's leaving his options open for later and not committing to anything.
Given how Kush played last game as town I'm not surprised by a lot of what you are calling him out for here.
His vote on Palmar is... meek? though, you have a point there.
Last game I remember Kush throwing his vote out early and without giving a shit.
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On December 28 2015 18:35 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 18:27 Tictock wrote:On December 28 2015 18:04 Trfel wrote:
I think I want to lynch nooniansoong.
"I'm going to try hard to work on read accuracy" -> "No reads for a while" -> Townread on Tictock -> Lots of posting with no effort to solve the game
There's really no desire to solve the game, despite him saying early on that he'd try hard to get accurate reads. The suspicions from his first post weren't followed up on at all, either. The number of posts that he made about the game without saying anything at all (his posts show that he knows he isn't doing anything) is remarkable.
Furthermore, the vote on Palmar, without caring to push it, and saying that he's willing to lynch about a dozen people for a policy lynch, seems very mafia-motivated. He's leaving his options open for later and not committing to anything. Given how Kush played last game as town I'm not surprised by a lot of what you are calling him out for here. His vote on Palmar is... meek? though, you have a point there. Last game I remember Kush throwing his vote out early and without giving a shit. I checked his filter from last game. It seemed remarkably different from this one. However, last game I checked MoosyDoosy's previous game and felt it was remarkably different from it, and he was town anyway, so I'm just bad. Meta aside.... It's mostly that nooniansoong doesn't seem to care about solving the game, but there are strange contrasts in his posting. Not having time to make reads but having time to talk a bunch about useless stuff. Seeming to care enough to tell people how to play, but at the same time spending several posts arguing about his "I have no reasons to think anything about this person at all". And that he seems to know more about the game than he lets on ("ObiWanShinobi looks scummy for similar reasons as Tictock"), but still doesn't actually care about the lynch at all.
Remarkably is an overstatement but otherwise I agree there is a difference, bleh meta though.
I'm gunna sleep/think on this though kus you're making pretty decent points. Only thing is why would he bother as mafia to poke a sleeping Palmar when there are much easier wagons or throwaway votes?
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On December 28 2015 19:31 ExO_ wrote:
Morning Ladies and Gents. Read through the pages I missed at the end of last night. I feel like overall we've really stalled out.
I really think we should consider lynching an inactive, such as BF
TickTock is okay (and the way he just ignores shining's case on him doesn't sit well with me) but I would still rather take out the trash and people who aren't here in the thread trying to help are better than lynching someone who is actively talking on day 1.
Speaking of people not talking, here comes Palmar. Calls me town, and that's about it. Really fucking easy thing for a scum to do, walk into the thread and call a town a town. If this is all we get from Palmar, I think its scummy as hell.
I assume you mean Rit's case, which I am ignoring
Also Palmar seems pretty likely town imo, post he just made is some solid thinking
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Ah, I see you all want to lynch me.
I should care, but I don't.
I expect lots of rage from people when I flip.
I still won't care.
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On December 28 2015 23:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 15:59 Tictock wrote:On December 28 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now. I like Obi a little this game... I guess. Any particular reason why? I'm not sure this quote means much and I'm pretty vain about stuff like that.
I agreed with your post there.
That's about it.
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On December 28 2015 23:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:On December 28 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch the people that blindly didn't want to lynch vivax a while ago, that is guaranteed mafia. As for names I'll find them. That would make them mafia why? Are you going to lynch anyone who wasnt your bitch? Eradicate some intelligence from this game? Well if perchance you are town then the people that aren't following a good case of vivax does shit all as mafia early in the game and we should pressure him generally have TMI and are mafia themselves, there is 0 reason to not form a wagon on you to make you do stuff unless they are scared to look out of place and are mafia.
This doesn't really track at all, there is also 0 reason why Mafia wouldn't jump on an easy wagon with solid reasons. Especially when you said you'd give free townreads for voting with you.
People not voting Vivax being mafia is most likely if Vivax is mafia, not if he is town.
Though tbh this is not a solid metric either way, so the fact you keep talking in absolutes about it is kinda odd HF.
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