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I forgot who who won it the last time. I think it was one of the hosts.
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Looking up the answer gets you a special place in hell obviously.
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On December 27 2015 10:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6e42219a5876ee6211266625f19c3353.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) The person that can see the 2 hats in front of him yells a color. If he gets it wrong, it means he was already seeing two different colors. This confirms his color as the opposite. Then the middle guy yells another color based on the color he is seeing in front on him and the other color that is confirmed.
The first person who yells out a color needs to be correct. Otherwise they all die.
On December 27 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) how many hats are there for each color?
This is unknown to the players. Could be 0-9 of each color.
On December 27 2015 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Koshi's riddle #1
If the guy in the middle says the opposite of what he sees in front of him, and then the guy behind him too, the third should know his own color?
1 in front. 3 in back.
#2: I am black -> #1 knows he white
#3: I am white -> # 2 knows he black
#1: knows from #2 hes white
in any other case #3 knows what he is just from the 2 colors in front. My try I guess
In the first riddle the first person who says a color needs to be correct. If he is correct they all are spared.
On December 27 2015 10:51 Vivax wrote:
And in riddle #2 they get told apparently? Or is it a fake tell?
In riddle 2 they don't get told anything except that they have a black or white hat.
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It is hard to type out these riddles correctly. :/
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On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
 first one is correct
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On December 27 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:56 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) The person that can see the 2 hats in front of him yells a color. If he gets it wrong, it means he was already seeing two different colors. This confirms his color as the opposite. Then the middle guy yells another color based on the color he is seeing in front on him and the other color that is confirmed. The first person who yells out a color needs to be correct. Otherwise they all die. On December 27 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) how many hats are there for each color? This is unknown to the players. Could be 0-9 of each color. On December 27 2015 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Koshi's riddle #1
If the guy in the middle says the opposite of what he sees in front of him, and then the guy behind him too, the third should know his own color?
1 in front. 3 in back.
#2: I am black -> #1 knows he white
#3: I am white -> # 2 knows he black
#1: knows from #2 hes white
in any other case #3 knows what he is just from the 2 colors in front. My try I guess In the first riddle the first person who says a color needs to be correct. If he is correct they all are spared. On December 27 2015 10:51 Vivax wrote:
And in riddle #2 they get told apparently? Or is it a fake tell? In riddle 2 they don't get told anything except that they have a black or white hat. Puzzle can't be solved if they can only say black or white and never move
That is incorrect
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On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".
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That one was really hard.
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Not voting HF will be such a pain in the ass. Auto vote D4 though.
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On December 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:18 Damdred wrote:
Your right guys I'm 100% wrong. I'm sorry I'll be back later No youre not wrong.
Been
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Been a while*
happy hunting rayn! I'll be watching.
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Why would anybody use a smurf instead of his main account? Sense it makes none.
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omg... at this rate I cannot learn to cope under suspicion.
Let's wait on Onegu I guess..
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Because everybody is so townie I ended up reading Alakaslam. I was not impressed.
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On December 27 2015 13:46 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:39 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 13:38 Damdred wrote:
I'm kinda sad hf isn't lobbying for me to vote vivax yet, ignored and alone rip.
But seriously I'm not entirely sure that bivax is a good lynch at this moment You should be voting for Vivax. Also i understand why you think Vivax is scum, but why are you asking everyone to vote for him?
It is well known that if you can get the person you think is mafia lynched, that you have an enormous penis.
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On December 27 2015 13:49 N e s s wrote:
Just curious, is there a way to know if someone is viewing the thread or no?
No.
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##unvote
##vote Vivax
Now that I can't scumread HF I guess I have to work with him
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On December 27 2015 14:53 Trfel wrote:I think that Artanis is town for post count. Post count seems to be an extremely huge tell for him. I don't care if he knows that I will read him based on post count, we both know that he can't keep a high post count as mafia this game The fact that he made this many posts early seems extremely town-motivated to me. I just don't see Artanis doing that as mafia, it's a futile effort that would be irrelevant to his survival (since his activity will drop off). Call me silly, but I think it's an easy read.
You are silly. Mafia with issues on postcount can keep up early. They struggle later.
On December 27 2015 15:12 N e s s wrote:
Also Slam i can't understand this passive-agressive attitude you're giving me.
good read
I also have no clue what slam is doing.
On December 27 2015 15:46 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:11 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta. its bad to go off of meta. It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion. Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart. What if he's changed his play style? But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on. Well here is where we disagree.. And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means. But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do. Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town. Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point? TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think. Yeah i have been reading your posts, i just wanted your general gathering of who you think is scum. This subtlety had done it. Scum players are generally quite a bit better than you may be used to here; that's been mucking with your reasoning and play style. Assume scum is like 3 steps ahead of us. We might catch them that way.
What are you doing slam? You townread the guy? lol
Page 34. If I read any faster I will skip too much. First lists are coming out it seems. Lists suck. 25 people game. rofl. Nobody cares. Put them on a piece of paper for yourself. Nobody here gives a fuck about townreads xcept mafia. And you make it easy for mafia to see if they can keep you in the thread for future days. Keep it easy to put the idea of a mafia being generally townread into the thread. etcetc
stop being bad.
only scumlists are more interesting.
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On December 27 2015 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 21:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Have a random read list cause they're fun.
100% Town forever
Artanis[Xp]
N e s s
Town
Damdred
Trfel
Rsoultin
Alakaslam
Town by association of people I think are town reading them as town and me being a lazy shit
Raynpelikoneet
Onegu
Weak Town
HF
Ritoky
ExO_
Koshi
TickTock
Null
Anyone not in other categories
Weak Mafia
Boxerfred - Made one post and it was bad.
GB - Development on Rso was meh. Seems to be thread cop more than all over the place. Way he engages N e s s doesn't really make much sense to me.
Leaning Mafia
Vivax - doing fuck all, not being remotely tinfoil. Very much out of the ordinary for Vivax. So you're scum? This post doesn't make much sense....
Thank you. I was planning to let it slide but that list is the worst I ever saw. The association read was incredible retarded.
##unvote
##vote Artanis
Pro-tip for everybody:
Stop putting green names in lists. How fucking dumb are you?
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