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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 03:07 GMT
#470
On December 27 2015 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To further my case;

TicTock was more interested in talking about his townreads (which he claimed are not really town reads) instead of his scumreads. As scumreads he just pointed out (easy) names.


I am on board with a TickTock lynch as well as Vivax, especially Vivax.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 04:10 GMT
#520
+ Show Spoiler [N E S S post] +
On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote:
Alrighty! So, heres my defense.

First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum.

Show nested quote +
Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two:


Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7

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At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything.


You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time.

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but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.


...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this-

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Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious.

Why would you band wagon this early with no reads?



Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose.

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Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret.

On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious.


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If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for.


this. this rubs me the wrong way.

1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it?
2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me?
3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical.

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1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions?

2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?

3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?


Smh answered those first 2 already.

but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest.

But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all.


+ Show Spoiler [My response] +

I like these responses. No further questions your honor.

To answer some of your queries though, I mentioned MoosyDoosy because you had bolded 4 questions but seemed concerned about why people were voting Moosy (game relevant information), I would have thought that question would have been a 5th bolded question since it was game relevant and not an afterthought in one of your bolded questions or later.

Also at the time there were no answers to it you just said you use the information later and I couldn't see how you would use the colour of someone's choice over the game relevant information. And while yes your first two questions were "analytical" they were questions that anybody could ask and weren't showing insight into information that had popped up.


GB can you elaborate on why you refuse to want to lynch Vivax? He has dodged every situation and game relevant scenario to do nothing and somehow that makes you not want to lynch him, the player who doesn't really play as mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 04:18 GMT
#525
This game is pretty boring, everyone that posts a lot is relatively towny and the rest can go die in a mafia fire.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 04:25 GMT
#534
TickTock I suggest that you catch up and post some fleshed out reads rather than arguing semantics, it'll help expedite things nicely

You can also vote for Vivax or explain why you aren't for free bonus points. Which everyone else should be doing too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 04:39 GMT
#545
On December 27 2015 13:38 Damdred wrote:
I'm kinda sad hf isn't lobbying for me to vote vivax yet, ignored and alone rip.

But seriously I'm not entirely sure that bivax is a good lynch at this moment


You should be voting for Vivax.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 04:40 GMT
#546
Or TickTock although I'm not sure yet on that one, he's blatantly ignoring half the thread but posting things in an accusatory way nonetheless.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 04:59 GMT
#564
The next two people to vote Vivax get a free town read, you can ignore GB's trash posts about it being null since it's not null.

If you're not sure just think about this, Vivax is known to play harder under threat of being lynched if he's town.

If he's mafia you'll be following me to victory.

There is no downside to voting Vivax.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 05:26 GMT
#580
On December 27 2015 14:19 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Vivax


Now that I can't scumread HF I guess I have to work with him


[image loading]

you da real MVP
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:31 GMT
#818
Holy fuck you people are awful.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:35 GMT
#822
Sicklucker is there any reason you keep blindly defending vivax because of one game where he didn't post much as town compared to about 10+ mafia games where he didn't post?

I think it's funny you want to get rid of trash but are happy to let Vivax play the same way. You also keep repeatedly mentioning me to blatantly discredit everything I say but never interacting with my posts to explain your read, how did I "Discredit multiple town reads," when you yourself were questioning the same thing from N E S S?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:36 GMT
#827
On December 27 2015 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe the kush smurf is actually kush, i would never expect kush to enter the game "hey folks im gonna work on my read accuracy", as if kush ever cared about such a thing. Kush is like the joker he just does stuff


This is a blatant post that much like TickTock proves that Vivax wasn't reading the thread AT ALL and just jumped on something that his defender (SL) was posting because SL wasn't also reading the thread. Nobody even jumped on this.


People not reading the thread: TickTock, SL, Vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:42 GMT
#835
On December 28 2015 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe the kush smurf is actually kush, i would never expect kush to enter the game "hey folks im gonna work on my read accuracy", as if kush ever cared about such a thing. Kush is like the joker he just does stuff


This is a blatant post that much like TickTock proves that Vivax wasn't reading the thread AT ALL and just jumped on something that his defender (SL) was posting because SL wasn't also reading the thread. Nobody even jumped on this.


People not reading the thread: TickTock, SL, Vivax

The thing is the master conspiracy theorist Vivax could easily make this post as town even if he read the post where kush says he is kush (well he actually read the post, otherwise he couldn't make the post he did in the first place). I don't know where you are coming from with this?


What the hell are you talking about if he was reading the thread he'd see me linking both the newbie game where Kush says he is Noonian in pre-game twice and also the post where I tell you that it's not a big surprise he's Kush because of the last two posts.

Have you been hit with a stupid stick all of a sudden?

Sicklucker defends Vivax --> Vivax says something that makes Sicklucker defend him more (something SL has been repeating multiple times because he's an idiot) --> more SL defending Vivax.

AKA Vivax just wants to survive and do shit all, he's not doing anything at all and I'm not letting it slide (Well TT also valid lynch).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:45 GMT
#839
On December 28 2015 00:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:35 Holyflare wrote:
Sicklucker is there any reason you keep blindly defending vivax because of one game where he didn't post much as town compared to about 10+ mafia games where he didn't post?

I think it's funny you want to get rid of trash but are happy to let Vivax play the same way. You also keep repeatedly mentioning me to blatantly discredit everything I say but never interacting with my posts to explain your read, how did I "Discredit multiple town reads," when you yourself were questioning the same thing from N E S S?


thats the whole fucking point man. vivax can fake being town for 1 day. but he cant really do it for two or three days .At the same time people like to bandwagon on him day 1 before that easy read comes into effect. So you wait a day or two and you get a 99% vivax mafia flip rather then lynch him now for a 40-50% flip. and you can take out the trash you can never read now.


I have a good history of lynching mafia Vivax, your points are irrelevant.

On December 27 2015 13:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:34 Tictock wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:23 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
[quote]
its bad to go off of meta.

It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion.

Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart.

What if he's changed his play style?

But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Well here is where we disagree..
And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means.

But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do.

Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town.

Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point?

TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething).
Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.


Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it

Seems legit


and your read on kush is: he's a smurf

which he literally explained pre-game when he said "this is a smurf, cuz i can't view kush account at work"

...like wat?


Ah, I didn't see that

So you just selectively decided to read some of my posts and not all of them?
Why?


^ Rayn it's pretty much the exact same thing you questioned TT for I don't see why you have a huge problem understanding Vivax doing it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:47 GMT
#841
On December 28 2015 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
What the hell are you talking about if he was reading the thread he'd see me linking both the newbie game where Kush says he is Noonian in pre-game twice and also the post where I tell you that it's not a big surprise he's Kush because of the last two posts.

I am saying he has obviously seen this because he KNOWS kush has claimed kush, otherwise he couldn't have known, right? So your argument that he isn't reading the thread is incorrect by default.

If he believes it is actually kush or not is another thing, but it doesn't mean he is not reading the thread --- in fact it points to the opposite.


It's hilarious that you think not reading the thread means reading absolutely 0 of it -.-

It's quite clearly a skim the thread into post whatever looks good to appease people or bolster people town reading him aka what TickTock was doing to you "Oh you have the same read as me why are you scum reading me!" and what Vivax is doing to SL.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:48 GMT
#844
I really give absolutely 0 shits what you think SL. You're just defending random people but then wanting to lynch BF and other people for being equally useless. Your points are irrelevant.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:49 GMT
#847
I think your grasp of english is somehow failing this conversation so I'll stop because it doesn't really matter anymore.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:53 GMT
#855
Anyway, when I was reading through I got total creepy vibes from rsoultin because of the amount of flattery she's been putting in to her posts and then when Onegu busted into the thread with his "Oh rsoul is buddying me," it actually looked pretty plausible but becomes irrelevant if she is masons with coag. So that should be cleared up since SL was more than happy to go on about it for 10 minutes while telling everyone to shut up about it.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:56 GMT
#859
On December 28 2015 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:51 sicklucker wrote:
well have fun lynching the obvious town newbie and null vivax like you guys do everygame and lose audios


That sounds like the mafia strat to go for this game


Are you gonna continue playing like trash? What happened to you Vivax, total disappointment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:58 GMT
#864
On December 28 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote:
So kush is now a good lynch to a point.

Also...shining could be a good lynch

If anyone cares what I think


Why aren't you interacting with me to get a better read on me since I'm not in any of your lists? :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2015 15:59 GMT
#866
shit tier
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