EPTOn January 05 2016 08:16 Palmar wrote:
am in pain i am laughing so hard. the koshi got me
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On January 06 2016 04:29 sicklucker wrote: would be pretty sick of dandreds like the cop here tho. Make a bad fakeclaims to avoid nks/ live forever. please be true would vote him for hugest balls 2016 | ||
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On January 06 2016 04:40 sicklucker wrote: Obi is still my boy hes done nothing to not deserve mt tr Dandred is probably town I think going against that is game losing I would gamble onegus town Palmar is town for sure but he should be suspect some if he does not die i think. But there is a rolecop so they could leave him around knowing hes vt or something weird I think oo is kinda town and gb spewed him as well Kush probably deserves a town read Scums probably tref/slam/exp/ritoky that seems right to me but im not 100% positive on any of them potential greens on obi and onegu? | ||
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On January 06 2016 08:18 Damdred wrote: Nah he never checks onegu there I think how often him and onegu have done that. I think he checked obi+someone depends on how sketched out he was post tt flip. i don't really remember so i should probably go look at some point. | ||
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On January 06 2016 13:17 The Shining wrote: Town 3. Onegu 7. damdred 11. ritoky 16. coagulation 19. The Shining 20. Palmar 4. nooniansoong 8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) 9. Exo_ 18. ObiWanShinobi 22. n e s s (replaced by NocturneMage) 24. Alakaslam do you not think obi is green checked? if so, why? if you're wrong on 1 tr who is it? | ||
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On January 06 2016 15:18 ExO_ wrote: On my phone. Tomorrow im flying back to Houston, so don't expect lots of activity from me until the following day (or if Im not tired after getting home tomorrow). Im not sure 100% who I think is scum. Since I have to choose today though: kush shining slam and +1. Im really not all that sure for the last slot at all. why shining? fabrication, omgus, inactivity or? | ||
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ritoky coag damdred onegu obi palmar exo shining kush nm oo slam | ||
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group 2 is people i have reasons to think they are town, palmar cuz lead mafia lynch + SL read, exo cuz mason stuff + convo in my filter where i had to talk him into mechanically correct play, shining cuz damdred says so, kush cuz SL read + similar reads + aggro questioning group 3 is people i think are scum or have no reason to think are town, slam is scum lynch him, nm is durdling in the past for days on end and producing nothing extremely relevant slightly townier than doing nothing but not town, oo just got nothing to read him town if i have no opinion this late and rarely remember you you're probably just mafia. that took way longer than normal holy shit typing is hard. | ||
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On January 06 2016 23:20 NocturneMage wrote: Some quick thoughts regarding my reads I have so far: I am getting town feeling from Damdred particularly from the way he is reevaluating people, re-evaluating me. His argument and his basis for fakeclaiming Tictock makes sense from a town perspective I think. I think Noon is also town for wanting to push harder on Alakaslam, proven by the fact that GB flipped vanilla scum and did not vote Slam. Alakaslam is for certain mafia (based on my argument that flipped mafia GB sacrificed himself), and for now I will place my vote on him unless I can find someone better. (Mechanically with a cop flip, the godfather is now expendable as is the vig so bussing is still possible.) Palmar is scum though, and I really think he just managed to weasel his way out of the lynch. In spite of what everyone is saying...something just isn't feeling right. And Shining, I took a quick look through your filter, I am also getting a sense of town feeling, similar to your play in Dark Tournament. I am also getting a scum feeling from reading ritoky's reaction to Damdred's initial suggesting why my town game wasn't reflecting in this game. The way ritoky pounced on it looked opportunistic in comparison to how he tried to pounce on me in Fullmetal, the slightest reaction that was non alignment indicative (my reaction to Trfel) he made it so, and here my inactivity in this game cannot be compared to my normal scum meta because it's a larger game (my first one ever), and I'm playing in two games at once (a mistake I won't make again). That is not alignment indicative and his reaction was at best, much less townie than Damdred. The contrast is that Damdred actually presented a basis (casing HTS and getting to work) and ritoky didn't. That might look OMGUS and all but it gives me some caution with ritoky. Now I realise these may look a bit shallow but those are my observations from what I've seen in the little activity/interaction I've had in this game. I admit I'm still reading a load of filters. point 1: i initially gave damdred pushback for calling you scum because i felt from the first filter he linked it was pure activity basis and not so much content; only after the 2nd one did i notice the content being significantly different. you should read it again. point 2: why am i mafia and don't just have a terrible read on you? point 3: "presented basis" such as: shining is town cuz feels like it, palmar is mafia cuz feels like it? this post is kinda mafia meta from NM. if you go read his past games (DB and damdred's filter) the majority of his reads as mafia are extrapolated from the first person. everything begins with me or i and how he is feeling or how people are reading him. as town he actually tends to derive the majority of his reads from association or events within the game. | ||
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On January 06 2016 17:57 Palmar wrote: I really should be in your townreads ritoky. over people who in my mind are pretty much mechanically/procedurally cleared? nah | ||
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why am i allowed to shoot if damdred or onegu is mafia? especially since all greens were killed so mafia likely didn't know who was blue at that time (and consequently who to occupy with the rb) | ||
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On January 07 2016 07:33 ExO_ wrote: walk me through what you're asking here exactly. I know you've talked about it before but walk me through it here the premise you need to accept is this: mafia don't want to risk being 50/50 shot at night or 100/0 shot at night (1st implies 1 of damd/onegu mafia, 2nd implies both). or rather mafia is generally risk averse to put it more simply. if you accept that then here's what follows. damdred and onegu do claim stuffz on TT. TT flips blue, i spend the night blustering a bit like i am going to shoot between the two, damdred encourages me to shoot him or onegu. so that night everything is set up so that (in my mind at least) the mafia team should believe with relative certainty that i am shooting between 1gu and damdred. if that shot is an unfavorable outcome for the mafia team, then they would simply roleblock me. they denied a town kp by lynching TT and denying a second one while potentially saving a teammate is too good of EV for a sensible player to pass up. if me shooting into damdred and 1gu is a favorable outcome aka both are town then it makes perfect sense to leave me unblocked and allow me to shoot a town (and probably subsequently try to ML the other). i thought of this though and mind gamed them, because to me the EV is too high to pass up RBing me if 1 is mafia so basically if i get blocked i confirm at least 1 is mafia, if i don't get blocked i confirm both are town; and so i shoot outside of the two knowing that if block then 1 is mafia, if not block then both are town. | ||
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On January 07 2016 07:51 ExO_ wrote: It relies on you being right about convincing scum you are going to shoot Damdred or Onegu. I don't really remember at this point how everything went down, but are you sure scum would've believed you? Who claimed first, Damdred or Onegu? gu claimed red, tt claimed gs, damdred cc'd gs. i think i am right. | ||
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