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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 02:50 GMT
#2721
On December 30 2015 11:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
If I base a scum team solely off of tt's filter it's :


Sl/tt/bf/palmar +2 (probably ness +1 more)


Maybe I just got pocketed but SL didnt seem that bad to me, I see little benefit for him to try and pocket me of all people on top of that by doing that he was going against the grain of people more influential than me on d1.

Moosy Trfel are possible too. Im not a trfel whisperer tho


Well it was just based on tt's filter so it's not particularly what I would say but sicklucker does weird shit that goes against the grain all the time but this game what he's saying at each point in time doesn't make sense.

Blue fishing, what rayn said about him, he wanted to lynch lurkers but at deadline wanted to pull votes off Tictock to vote me instead of any other lurker in the game. Defending you was super weird too, it was so out of the blue. All this evidence of me hammering mafia but him still calling me mafia.

Doesn't really make much sense to me.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 02:50 GMT
#2722
On December 28 2015 16:08 Trfel wrote:
Hey, Tictock, we appear to be at exactly the same place in the thread XD

What did you think about the Artanis/raynpelikoneet argument about GlowingBear a page or two ago?

Can you encourage me to keep reading and make it through?


On December 29 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If this is the reason people actually TR me I swear I'm going to shoot someone
Oh, wow, I was about to case Artanis but I guess he's actually town

Artanis, what's in the rest of the chart? Like, not the specifics, but how do you go about taking notes for the game?



Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:29 ritoky wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:26 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone want to lynch nooniansoong here, or should I give up?


he basically told me to go fuck myself and i thought it was town; why is he mafia?
Because he doesn't want to lynch Tictock, but he's not trying to do anything at all to vote for someone else or even explain why he's voting for Alakaslam (at least, I don't remember seeing anything).



Rsoultin, did you see the quote I brought up about GlowingBear (this page, or last page)? I don't feel that GlowingBear's tone is robotic in this game, and I believe that's the only reason you are scumreading him. Please explain?


On December 29 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:49 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:46 Trfel wrote:
On December 29 2015 05:46 Vivax wrote:
Im going to like the kush - TS exchange, kush might actually find points that point to TS being mafia
But he's still voting for Alakaslam this whole time, without talking about him, without ever trying to move the lynch.

This is not an attempt to solve the game. This is not actually caring about the game, or trying to find the best lynch.


Trfel I see you voting off wagon and not really attempting to do anything with TT, why is that? I don't think you've really gone into a TT thought process much at all other than mentioning he's not a very good lynch? Not that I remember anyway.
I get the impression that Tictock actually is reading the thread, primarily because last night as I was catching up, he supposedly read 15-20 pages at the same time as I did. Like, he'd comment on posts every so often, and was basically on my pace the entire time. That seems difficult to fake.

I don't think that Tictock would actually put that much effort to read the thread and then not care to actually try to move the lynch as scum. I also don't think there is much reason to scumread him, notably I didn't like the criticisms of his first post (there were some reasons I wanted to townread Koshi then, and I liked that Tictock wasn't sharing a widely accepted read, but instead a more unique one).

The arguments against Tictock seem to be arguing that he's bad instead of that he's scum? Though I have not caught up yet and I have been reading quickly without having a chance to double check things.


Nah, I'm thinking Trfel is town after these. In the first one, I feel like scum has trouble communicating with eachother for Trfel saw they were around the same place in thread and tried to engage him. It seems pretty honest, especially the last line. "Can you encourage me to keep reading?" If TT is scum, no way is Trfel scum with him.

The second post is him explaining what he sees RE: Tictock. Again, if Tictock is scum, I don't think Trfel would defend him like this as a scum partner. He did it before with Breshke in another game and it worked out horribly for him when Breshke flipped. Maybe I'm just bad for assuming he wouldn't make the same bad play twice but I really don't think so here.

Also, he noticed what I did about Kush not wanting to lynch TT but not doing anything about it or pushing another wagon, which I agreed with and called Kush out on, too. Which makes me want to vote Kush with him.

Yeah Trfel is town after reading his filter.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 02:53 GMT
#2723
On December 30 2015 11:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 11:39 The Shining wrote:
On December 30 2015 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
Nah shining bf is 100% scum, I actually liked that trfel XD reaction too.


Why 100%? I'm suspecting he is, too, but this is super low effort compared to his last scum game. He also bussed his own RB in that game when we had a Vet so I would expect him to bus TT D1. Then again, being completely off-wagon on Trfel looks just as bad.


He was afk most of the game. Anyway I actually find bf as town to be somewhat intuitive and say things I actually agree with and here his thoughts and posts seem like he's saying one thing but posting others. Such as his post about me being mafia if GB is town, he tried to cover his tracks by saying "yes I added that afterthought!" but it didn't add up at all with what he was saying, he basically made a massive post that pastures to set me up for a lynch but then saying he has no opinion other than a 33% chance of each situation occuring.

Also like GB said his whole thought process doesn't add up, if he thinks I'm mafia then why would he want to lynch GB first to prove that. Aka posturing.

Then there's all that association from tt calling gb town so of gb is town bf's posts fit that scenario even more.


Hm, this is good. Is it worth me finding a town game of his to see him being intuitive? I've only ever played with him as scum, but I do see similarities, notably the afk and brazenness but someone said that's a town trait of his, too.

But the posturing and association is a good point. I still want to read his filter to confirm that and see if maybe it's just horrible town play but I'm almost convinced here, just wanna fact check.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 02:53 GMT
#2724
I think kush is playing his anti meta this game. Normally playing with tmi but now playing with tmi and saying the opposite! Makes sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 02:56 GMT
#2725
Uhhh i want to say it was gaiden he was in with me that he said stuff that I just generally agreed with. There was also his first game where he was so on point it looked like he was just spouting off perfect info as mafia but was actually town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 03:00 GMT
#2726
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia

This was the other one
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 03:04 GMT
#2727
Well if I'm being honest, I'll probably get around to reading BF and Gaiden but I might not come back tonight, although I'll try. Damdred was right in expecting me not to be here tonight, I rarely play Monday/Tuesdays because its my weekend(I've mentioned this in like every game I play). I don't work and RL keeps me busy AF. I have a very limited time to get a lot done every weekend.

But ya, voting TT, pretty sure HF is right and BF is scum but going to read/fact check, Kush is dropping to my scumleans.

Oh ya, what do you mean by anti meta? Does that mean you think he could be scum, too, and just playing the exact opposite of how he normally plays scum? I played with Kush once and he was a blue that got lynched D1 and gave no fucks. So I'm not sure how he plays scum.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 03:11 GMT
#2728
Pretty much what your last paragraph says yeh. He normally says things too accurately as mafia afaik.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
December 30 2015 03:15 GMT
#2729
On December 30 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Emergency shifts at work are fun I had my analysis done but it's at home on ny conp.

Just incase here's my reads without reasoning but will elaborate if I survive please if I die don't discredit I promise they are well reasoned and thought through.

Town:
Damdred
Rsoultin/Coag
Raynbabyrayn
Artanis
Shining
Vivax
Koshi

Probably town:
Gliwingbear
Holyflare
Exp
Kush
SL
Rit

Night action please
Ticktock. This makes me uneasy as I feel could be town vs town.

Nullish
Onegu maybe I should trust rs read here I had town feels at one point.
Ness what happened to our love it faded so quickly had him more town than null in my notes

Scum lean:
Slam
Palmar
Obvious one

hey damdred can you explain your scum lean on me, is it activity based, because of waylanner?

i changed my mind about tmi regarding you after poking through your filter, i think you might be town. sometimes your posts read like you know everyone's alignment but i think that's because you believe it with conviction
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 03:18 GMT
#2730
On December 30 2015 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia

This was the other one


I read his filter for this game. It's super short. Like, longer than mine but less stuff to read there. How is that possible? You're also right, I don't like that post about "if GB flips town, HF is scum" and then is 100% on HF being scum after voting Trfel(super early) for "sounding forced" but literally never moved his vote.

And that "not themed" mafia game, I skimmed like 4 pages before I realized there's literally no way to compare it. Like if THAT'S his normal town game, he's 100% scum. I'd have to see a less active town game, if there is one.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 03:19 GMT
#2731
On December 30 2015 12:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Emergency shifts at work are fun I had my analysis done but it's at home on ny conp.

Just incase here's my reads without reasoning but will elaborate if I survive please if I die don't discredit I promise they are well reasoned and thought through.

Town:
Damdred
Rsoultin/Coag
Raynbabyrayn
Artanis
Shining
Vivax
Koshi

Probably town:
Gliwingbear
Holyflare
Exp
Kush
SL
Rit

Night action please
Ticktock. This makes me uneasy as I feel could be town vs town.

Nullish
Onegu maybe I should trust rs read here I had town feels at one point.
Ness what happened to our love it faded so quickly had him more town than null in my notes

Scum lean:
Slam
Palmar
Obvious one

hey damdred can you explain your scum lean on me, is it activity based, because of waylanner?

i changed my mind about tmi regarding you after poking through your filter, i think you might be town. sometimes your posts read like you know everyone's alignment but i think that's because you believe it with conviction


Hi. You poked through Damdred's filter and think he might be town now? Did you miss the part where he claimed?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
December 30 2015 03:20 GMT
#2732
On December 30 2015 12:19 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 12:15 ObviousOne wrote:
On December 30 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Emergency shifts at work are fun I had my analysis done but it's at home on ny conp.

Just incase here's my reads without reasoning but will elaborate if I survive please if I die don't discredit I promise they are well reasoned and thought through.

Town:
Damdred
Rsoultin/Coag
Raynbabyrayn
Artanis
Shining
Vivax
Koshi

Probably town:
Gliwingbear
Holyflare
Exp
Kush
SL
Rit

Night action please
Ticktock. This makes me uneasy as I feel could be town vs town.

Nullish
Onegu maybe I should trust rs read here I had town feels at one point.
Ness what happened to our love it faded so quickly had him more town than null in my notes

Scum lean:
Slam
Palmar
Obvious one

hey damdred can you explain your scum lean on me, is it activity based, because of waylanner?

i changed my mind about tmi regarding you after poking through your filter, i think you might be town. sometimes your posts read like you know everyone's alignment but i think that's because you believe it with conviction


Hi. You poked through Damdred's filter and think he might be town now? Did you miss the part where he claimed?

probably, i looked harder at the first few pages than the last few

what's with all the claiming going around, should i claim too?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 03:22 GMT
#2733
On December 30 2015 12:20 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 12:19 The Shining wrote:
On December 30 2015 12:15 ObviousOne wrote:
On December 30 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Emergency shifts at work are fun I had my analysis done but it's at home on ny conp.

Just incase here's my reads without reasoning but will elaborate if I survive please if I die don't discredit I promise they are well reasoned and thought through.

Town:
Damdred
Rsoultin/Coag
Raynbabyrayn
Artanis
Shining
Vivax
Koshi

Probably town:
Gliwingbear
Holyflare
Exp
Kush
SL
Rit

Night action please
Ticktock. This makes me uneasy as I feel could be town vs town.

Nullish
Onegu maybe I should trust rs read here I had town feels at one point.
Ness what happened to our love it faded so quickly had him more town than null in my notes

Scum lean:
Slam
Palmar
Obvious one

hey damdred can you explain your scum lean on me, is it activity based, because of waylanner?

i changed my mind about tmi regarding you after poking through your filter, i think you might be town. sometimes your posts read like you know everyone's alignment but i think that's because you believe it with conviction


Hi. You poked through Damdred's filter and think he might be town now? Did you miss the part where he claimed?

probably, i looked harder at the first few pages than the last few

what's with all the claiming going around, should i claim too?


If you're scum, then yeah, by all means =D

So how caught up are you? Do you have any other reads besides flipping your Damdred read?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 03:23 GMT
#2734
On December 30 2015 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Pretty much what your last paragraph says yeh. He normally says things too accurately as mafia afaik.


I dunno i read through his filter this game and I actually don't hate it but we'll see
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 30 2015 03:27 GMT
#2735
Maybe we just lynch all the people that don't know what's happening in the thread and find the mafia, seems like the mafia trend this game.

ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
December 30 2015 03:30 GMT
#2736
On December 30 2015 11:02 Tictock wrote:
Yep, my new years gift to you all is an easy obvious lynch today.

I played like shit, I deserve it.

Gunna for reactions to my flip, but we have to wait almost 72 hours... Lame.

this was a scum claim right?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
December 30 2015 03:31 GMT
#2737
On December 30 2015 12:22 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 12:20 ObviousOne wrote:
On December 30 2015 12:19 The Shining wrote:
On December 30 2015 12:15 ObviousOne wrote:
On December 30 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Emergency shifts at work are fun I had my analysis done but it's at home on ny conp.

Just incase here's my reads without reasoning but will elaborate if I survive please if I die don't discredit I promise they are well reasoned and thought through.

Town:
Damdred
Rsoultin/Coag
Raynbabyrayn
Artanis
Shining
Vivax
Koshi

Probably town:
Gliwingbear
Holyflare
Exp
Kush
SL
Rit

Night action please
Ticktock. This makes me uneasy as I feel could be town vs town.

Nullish
Onegu maybe I should trust rs read here I had town feels at one point.
Ness what happened to our love it faded so quickly had him more town than null in my notes

Scum lean:
Slam
Palmar
Obvious one

hey damdred can you explain your scum lean on me, is it activity based, because of waylanner?

i changed my mind about tmi regarding you after poking through your filter, i think you might be town. sometimes your posts read like you know everyone's alignment but i think that's because you believe it with conviction


Hi. You poked through Damdred's filter and think he might be town now? Did you miss the part where he claimed?

probably, i looked harder at the first few pages than the last few

what's with all the claiming going around, should i claim too?


If you're scum, then yeah, by all means =D

So how caught up are you? Do you have any other reads besides flipping your Damdred read?

my eyes have crossed through all the words in the game but the retention is pretty bare minimum

i have quite a few town reads that don't need to be mentioned, going through filters at the moment.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 03:31 GMT
#2738
On December 30 2015 12:27 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe we just lynch all the people that don't know what's happening in the thread and find the mafia, seems like the mafia trend this game.



LoL I don't actually hate this idea, but I'm sure one scummer is at least semi-active and caught up. Sure it's a 25 person game but believing all 5 scum yolo'd and decided not to read 2700 posts seems unlikely. But definitely not impossible...meh.

OO, that's what I assumed. So I see you're getting really close to being caught up, then?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
December 30 2015 03:31 GMT
#2739
any filters people want me to pay attention to?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 30 2015 03:34 GMT
#2740
Ninja'd. Outside of TT, let me know if you find anything or anyone scummy. Because right now, the only thing I've gotten from you is an awareness about Damdred scumleaning you. That's not a townie brownie for you. More like a null skull or even a scummy gummy.

I'll hopefully be back in an hr or two. If not, I should be around at work all day tomorrow.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
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