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TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 18:52:03
December 19 2015 18:20 GMT
#32
/in ?

edit: I have a bunch of off-site experience, but I'd rather sign up as a newbie just to dip my toe into the waters.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 29 2015 21:48 GMT
#326
Sorry for the delay everyone. I am just getting into the game now. I will be starting me read of the thread in about 15 minutes, and will make a post after I complete my first read-through.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 00:04 GMT
#354
Not sure if this is necessary but just letting you all know that I haven't flaked, but there is just a lot of catchup to be had. I intend on doing a full and proper introduction when I am ready (which will be soon(tm)) as well as laying down some preliminary reads and/or votes.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 00:05 GMT
#356
I have caught up to post 252. I still have 100 more posts to go through.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 01:03 GMT
#378
Okay, finally caught up! Here's my introduction proper.

Hello everyone, I'm TheCow. This is my first game here on the TL site. I have previous experience on other sites such as TownOfSalem and MafiaScum as well as several anime and manga sites such as MangaFox. I look forward to playing here.
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##vote:Kmatt

I am voting Kmatt because I believe he has a reasonable chance of being scum at this time. The specifics of this is up to debate but here are my primary points:

1) Kmatt appears to be sort of inconsistent with his stances in a way which -- in my eyes -- suggests he's playing in a opportunistic manner. First example: Posts 187 and 192.
2) The appearance of minor [active lurking] in that I cannot see many definitive stances, contention points, or general conviction in his filter.
3) Flimsy accusations where they exist (Kmatt->GB, Kmatt->Onegu).

Another scum read I currently have is Scott. Here are some direct quotations from my notes:
+ Show Spoiler +
Scott->Irish TR cite " extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available". After implying GB is scum/bad/some combination thereof. "hmmm..." The posts Scott chooses to look at are the pretty benign one. Looks like he is attempting to appear that he is going through the thread without going through the thread -- active lurking. Need further information, but scumlean for now.


Because of scott's lower activity level and because he is already the leading wagon, I decided to place my vote on my secondary scum read (Kmatt) as I believe it will be far more productive.

=====


At this time, I have town-leans on Noct, Shapelog, (tentatively) Giygas.

I have null reads on Irishbound (conflicted), Fidei (do not trust myself to read this slot), GB (conflicted), Onegu (do not trust myself to read this slot), mderg (require further reading), nooniansoong. (S,T,T,~,~,S) respectively.


TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 01:09 GMT
#381
Correct, those are my current leans -- scum, town, town, null, null, scum respectively.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 01:38 GMT
#388
EBWOP: 197*
192 was a mistake.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 03:07 GMT
#421
This post is being written as of post 415.

@Kmatt
Before we proceed, I'd like to ask you three quick questions just to get a better understanding of you as a player.
1) How much experience do you have with the game Mafia?
2) How do you feel about this game in its current state?
3) In one sentence, describe yourself as a person. (not a question, but close enough ._.)

@Irish
On December 30 2015 11:25 Irishbound wrote:
@TheCow - I'll need you to explain a few things for me; 1) Given that you're aware your secondary scum read has two votes on them and your initial one has none why didn't you vote Scott and ensure that a scum read of yours has a higher chance of getting lynched? 2) Can you explain your conflicted reads on myself and GB in some detail for me and 3) What makes you not trust your ability to read Fidelis and Onegu?

1) I did not and do not want to narrow my own and the threads field of vision by simply bandwagoning the leading wagon. Aside from that, Scott's activity level would waste the pressure of a vote -- much unlike Kmatt who is here now.
2) You, Irish, I had as topscum for a little while when I was catching up. Between that time and me catching up, you managed to redeem yourself in my eyes and became a void read. GB, I am conflicted because though they have been somewhat anti-town, they have not been overtly scummy -- or enough for a vote, at least.
3) Onegu looks like a player who is mislynch bait and without meta-experience, I do not feel comfortable making a definitive read without more evidence. For Fidelis, here is a quote from my notes:
+ Show Spoiler +
[Fidea] seems to be the type of player I will scumread into oblivion regardless of their actual alignment.

I have always had issues reading players like Fidea -- just their style and attitude doesn't mesh well with me.
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 03:32 GMT
#432
This post is being written as of 425.
===

Regarding my early-game read on Irish.
Irish's comment of scott "bandwagoning" noonian felt like an overreaction and the usage of the buzzword (##aside <I realize the irony of using this word>) left a bad taste in my mouth. The entirety of 185 looked like shade, with that bit on 168 also sticking out. This worry was partially extinguished by giaga lamping 172.

Distancing occurred between Kmatt and Irish in the early game with Irish putting (from a SvS PoV) unnecessary pressure onto Kmatt. This caused minor polarizations in my reads. At this moment, Irish was gut-scum. #236 furthered this read.

The developments in my Kmatt and Scott reads contributed to me reevaluating my Irish read. Upon reevaluating the earlier posts in the context of the later posts, things started to line up in a more town-ish way especially with the recent #395. So ultimately it was a null read.

Would you like me to go into more specific detail and do post analysis, or does an overview suffice?
TheCow
Profile Joined December 2015
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2015 03:33 GMT
#434
On December 30 2015 12:15 Kmatt wrote:
For the record I totally am not parroting NMs post about the association. You guys just type faster than me >.<

Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 12:07 TheCow wrote:
This post is being written as of post 415.

@Kmatt
Before we proceed, I'd like to ask you three quick questions just to get a better understanding of you as a player.
1) How much experience do you have with the game Mafia?
2) How do you feel about this game in its current state?
3) In one sentence, describe yourself as a person. (not a question, but close enough ._.)


Odd, but here we go.

1) I know the rules/role structure from having played the SC2 mod (in that mod each day/night cycle is only a few minutes so there's no real discussion). There was a lot of variety in player powers so I know a fair bit of those interactions, but as for forum mafia and reading people this is my first game.

2) We seem to be converging on a number of potential lynch targets, but there are just too many people staying quiet for my liking. Some of these accusations seem legitimate, but with the deadline looming it doesn't look like we'll have a solid choice.

3) I'm rather calm and slow to anger, taking a patient approach to problem solving, sometimes at the cost of initiative.

I need to process this and do a bit of rereading to put things into perspective.
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