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FF are you good at being mafia or do you suck?
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I'm going to devote my lunch this game. First on my agenda is relooking at fidei. His filter length is scummy, and I may have let him off too easy.
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NM it's not that it's a lowball argument. I looked at it and thought the same thing: "wow what a bad reason to scumread/vote someone"
But it's so obvious that mafia can think of it easily.
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clarification: I thought GB's reasoning was bad. Mderg's reasoning for scumreading that post wasn't bad but it's too easy to get townpoints for.
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Could be scum:
1) Kmatt
2) Shapelog replaced by FecalFeast
3) TheCow replaced by The Shining
5) GiygaS
7) Fidei86
8) mderg
Scumteam?:
FF
Fidei
mderg
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Gigyas did something that seemed town to me. I'd have to find it again though.
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On January 05 2016 01:24 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 01:07 nooniansoong wrote:
clarification: I thought GB's reasoning was bad. Mderg's reasoning for scumreading that post wasn't bad but it's too easy to get townpoints for. That's not wrong BUT is there anything I get scumpoints for? Seriously, both you and GB have been scumreading me for like 5 rl days without giving any proper explanation for it but for some reason want the others to prove that I'm town. That's so fucking stupid I can't even believe it.
um that's gb who is doing that not me.
I just can't townread you so I'm assuming you're scum. What you can do about it is tell me who is scum and why.
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On January 05 2016 01:30 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 01:27 nooniansoong wrote:On January 05 2016 01:24 mderg wrote:On January 05 2016 01:07 nooniansoong wrote:
clarification: I thought GB's reasoning was bad. Mderg's reasoning for scumreading that post wasn't bad but it's too easy to get townpoints for. That's not wrong BUT is there anything I get scumpoints for? Seriously, both you and GB have been scumreading me for like 5 rl days without giving any proper explanation for it but for some reason want the others to prove that I'm town. That's so fucking stupid I can't even believe it. um that's gb who is doing that not me. I just can't townread you so I'm assuming you're scum. What you can do about it is tell me who is scum and why. HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT DOING IT? If you're town I sincerely hope you get a coach next game!
Ok maybe I am doing it.
So who is scum and why?
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Mderg is pissed that there's no case to defend himself from
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FF my reads are in flux right now. I dont really find Fidei scummy. Not sure who my scumteam is right now.
nm, i understand mderg's problem with my suspicion against him. he can't defend himself.
I took a look at one of his scumgames and after he defended himself from a case everyone thought he was townie.
I'm not giving him a chance to defend himself. The only way he can prove he is town to me is if he acts townie.
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and mderg dont go into depth about how my metaing of you or whatever the above is is wrong. I dont care.
just attempt to find scum.
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On January 05 2016 05:23 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 04:32 nooniansoong wrote:
FF my reads are in flux right now. I dont really find Fidei scummy. Not sure who my scumteam is right now.
nm, i understand mderg's problem with my suspicion against him. he can't defend himself.
I took a look at one of his scumgames and after he defended himself from a case everyone thought he was townie.
I'm not giving him a chance to defend himself. The only way he can prove he is town to me is if he acts townie. If you had actually looked at my scumgames carefully, you'd have seen lots of differences to my play now.
Like what? I'm a sucker for self-meta.
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Ok I think I changed my mind about gb. More later
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On January 05 2016 21:27 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 21:22 nooniansoong wrote:
Ok I think I changed my mind about gb. More later From your filter I think you were town reading him before? So now you're scum reading him?
I'm going to have to look through his filter, but let's just say I have a better idea what his scumgame looks like now from other games. I was underestimating it.
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add to that the fact that I have too many townreads this game and it's not making sense to me.
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On January 05 2016 23:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Ugh lots of people seem to be switching onto GB but I haven't really seen a convincing case yet. I'd much rather lynch into mderg/Gigya/KMatt. NM what are these phrases you talk about? I don't remember looking at the Mafia QT in NSM XIV..
I see you defending GB a lot, but I don't see you putting forth good reasons to vote mderg/gigya/kmatt.
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Gb less questions more conclusions from you.
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On January 06 2016 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2016 02:30 nooniansoong wrote:
Gb less questions more conclusions from you. I need answers so I can draw conclusions.
You have 54 pages to draw conclusions from.
Your questions aren't specific. They are broad, asking for list posts. It makes it seem like youre asking them for the sake of asking them.
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On January 05 2016 06:22 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2015 05:33 mderg wrote:On December 31 2015 03:54 Irishbound wrote:On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town) Fair warning but if we lynch Scott today and he flips mafia like I expect he will then I'll probably voting you for this, the sheer amount you've now defended him and made it less likely that he gets lynched is baffling given your read on him. It makes no sense as a stance whatsoever and really does ignore what the issues with him really are, sure he his lesser activity may fall under his meta, him town reading Noon for the reasoning he does doesn't though and him calling me town due to being a "newb" similarly doesn't make sense. I'd say scott flipping town would make GB look worse. Strongly defending a townie based on nothing just screams too much information. Setting up what if scott flips town even though before this you made your first real post about someone about scott being mafia. Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 23:01 mderg wrote:Went through scotts filter and realized that there was even less content than I thought. Only 2 posts really. + Show Spoiler +On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 07:29 Irishbound wrote:
I can already tell my complete lack of meta or understanding of what happend in prior games you guys have played together is go<script id="gpt-impl-0.34227765889966854" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script>ing to make it difficult to scumhunt and follow some conversations.
Know it's a weak thing but I'm leaning town on Noonian already, think scum would be less likely to be so brazen to make #62 and like his instant "That's anti-town to do" reaction towards Glowings statement.
I understand that we're meant to be voting in a separate thread to make it easier for the mod to tally up votes but I'd appreciate if everyone also posted here with their vote -- it'll make following the game and reading into context behind votes much easier than attempting to line up timestamps of when people voted in comparison to their thoughts/posts in here.
@Glowing - Who is this Kush you're voting? You're the quickest townread I have ever had! Hi! Welcome to the forums! Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong. Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax GB throwing out townreads like it's drunken Monday - hmmm... Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 08:52 Irishbound wrote:On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:What exactly you didn't like about their openings? I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses. Okay, I'm extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available. Maybe GB was right  You get a townlean for this Irish. Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 09:08 NocturneMage wrote:Greetings everybody! We're going to start the day by getting rid of obvious scum. And by obvious scum, I mean the dota players. Because as we all know Dota is a shitty game played by shitty people so it's never too soon to start taking out the trash! ##vote Fidei86Fidei is the worst of them all, as he's openly admitted pre-game, he steals my wife on a regular basis playing dota with her in the evenings. After Fidei, we plow through Onegu who I understand plays with her on occassion and then we take out GlowingBear who has told me in a previous scum qt (newbie 13) that he wouldn't coach me because I'm a League player.  Welp. EZ game EZ lyfe get rekt scum. I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now... Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 09:13 Kmatt wrote:On December 29 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 08:59 Kmatt wrote:On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 08:36 Irishbound wrote:On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong. Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name? And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet. Nop. Just kush. Yeah, it's a joke to be fair we are kinda very "jokish" here in TL Mafia in the beginning of the games. We even call it "joke phase" No, I don't, these opens are basically not alignment indicatice (NAI) What exactly you didn't like about their openings? If this is jokephase I got one: What do you call a Zerg player that researched Chitinous Plating? + Show Spoiler +Promoted to diamond league It's funny because it happened to me and I felt validated but now I hear that ultras are OP and doubt myself. On second thought let's not tell jokes. As for openings, I only thought yours was fishy, but it's day one and you probably end up being more valuable alive since you're still likely town. Why am I likely town? Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet. On December 29 2015 09:02 Irishbound wrote:
@Kmatt, what did you find fishy about Glowings opening? He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like. On December 29 2015 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol did I? Anyway, you're now my buddy!!! On December 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
100% true
##Vote: kush On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
You're the quickest townread I have ever had!
Hi! Welcome to the forums!
Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.
Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts. This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well. I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime) In the first one he mentions GB's strange townread on Irish which isn't bad in itself. But the fact that I had done just that before and that he doesn't provide any follow up at all makes him look bad in my eyes. Then he townreads Irish and Kmatt with only vague reasoning, nothing worth mentioning. Also the strange "I could possibly jump on this". I have no idea where to put this. + Show Spoiler +On December 30 2015 14:21 scott31337 wrote:
So I have CPR and first aid training tomorrow morning so I have to get up early - I should be back on before EoD.
The thing that gets me is - why would noon have a town read on me and go against thread sentiment if he was mafia? What's the motivation - so he moves up for me.
Giygas's filter looks the worse - there's some SC stuff and nothing else - so I'm going to vote for him for now. In the second post he provides a weak defense of noon. I don't like it regardless of noon's alignment. Then he votes Giygas. I don't think this one is particularly scummy, it's just a vote based on the lack of actual content from Giygas. His own lack of content is not something that should be taken into account for this vote. I'd say he's pretty scummy and I'm gonna vote him for now because I'm not sure I can be back before the deadline and he looks like a good place to safely park my vote. ##vote scott To me it seems weird to be talking about what if scott flips town after this.
Why is it weird,especially when he wasn't the one who brought it up? He wasresponding to someone else who had brought it up.
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On January 06 2016 04:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Right and it felt like the response was setting up a town flip but I can see it being purely a response to irish speculating on a mafia flip...
I don't want to put effort into my reads kush come on
To me it seems contradictory that #1 you dont want to put in effort and #2 you complain about the game not being active enough.
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