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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:37 GMT
#1184
And the reason it relates to Fidei is because he's making an assertion on mderg that I think is scummy and I think you should comment on that too.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:42 GMT
#1186
On January 06 2016 23:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 23:20 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 06 2016 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 21:20 nooniansoong wrote:
Irish said he had to re-read and reasses therefore his scum reads were going to change


Reassessing scum reads doesn't mean he would drop them, necessarily. Why are you pushing this information so hard?

Um because it is your only current scumread with actual reasoning behind it. So I don't have a lot to push lol.

We can argue in vain about how sure he was about his reads. All we know is "reread and reasses" indicates he had some extent of doubt about his reads. That doubt was not acknowledged by you and it makes your reasoning for voting gigyas that much weaker.

People have answered your questions. You have done nothing with the answers. I'd like you to make some content other than defending yourself.
You could give your thoughts about fidei's case since that seems to be the hot topic right now.


NO

IT DOESN'T MAKE IT WEAKER

BECAUSE REASSESSING DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN DROPPING

And as soon as people told me I was WIFOM I've reevaluated and dropped it.

Now I'm conscious about Giygas and I think he looks scummy for all the reasons I've brouhht AND IF YOU THINK I'M PUSHING GIYGAS BECAUSE OF THE NIGHTKILL YOU ARE NOT READING MY FUCKING POSTS


Okay, let's ignore the nightkill argument on GigyaS.

Let's break this down and let's start with his latest vote on you and your explanation on him.

On January 06 2016 12:39 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't admit that. I admit that Irish was killed because he was looking townie. Which doesn't mean Mafia didn't think he was also a danger to the team while scum reading Giygas.

But the reason I scum read Giygas is that it is already day3 and I know nothing about his reads. He is not engaged, he is not investigating. He is here, comes by and do nothing. There is something in particular: he decided to vote me last day. After asking me questions that I answered and made him say "oh yes you're right you already said that". What I mean is that, from our interaction, you can see that he had a suspicion on something about me and when proved wrong, he backtracked. Therefore, it basically means he dropped his suspicions on me. Why voting me, then? It came out of the blue.

Then Gyigas voted Onegu. Again, what under Giygas POV makes him switch to Onegu's wagon? Basically, me and Onegu are never partners for the way we've pushed each other. So if Giygas actually was scum reading me, how come he switches to Onegu?


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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:43 GMT
#1187
pfffff hold on, I hit post too early.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:47 GMT
#1189
I'm getting interrupted at work. GlowingBear, I want to pick up at post 1186 when I return.

How much longer are you around?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 16:01 GMT
#1203
phoneposting -

On January 07 2016 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, lynch me today
When I flip town lynch my scum reads

They are Giygas/mderg/?

Also remember what I said on NM before

I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day.

I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads.


I don't understand

(1) why is mderg mafia? Your reason for scumming him boils down to his style. I read his town games (disclaimer - could not get to his scum games yet) and his style in this game is similar to his town games. so I don't like your argument and any of the arguments against him on passivity. Of further note, mderg has gotten mislynched a bunch of times looking at his record.

(2) your points against gigyas are somewhat legitimate regarding not understanding his reads, mindset but I also agree with Noon that how he's formulating scumteams looks towny. what I had wanted to ask you was the way you attacked his approach to the thread, he gave a lot of RL excuses but those excuses were nai.

where I have more trouble is that gigyas had posted since yet you made that same conclusion.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 16:03 GMT
#1204
On January 07 2016 01:01 NocturneMage wrote:
phoneposting -

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, lynch me today
When I flip town lynch my scum reads

They are Giygas/mderg/?

Also remember what I said on NM before

I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day.

I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads.


I don't understand

(1) why is mderg mafia? Your reason for scumming him boils down to his style. I read his town games (disclaimer - could not get to his scum games yet) and his style in this game is similar to his town games. so I don't like your argument and any of the arguments against him on passivity. Of further note, mderg has gotten mislynched a bunch of times looking at his record.

(2) your points against gigyas are somewhat legitimate regarding not understanding his reads, mindset but I also agree with Noon that how he's formulating scumteams looks towny. what I had wanted to ask you was the way you attacked his approach to the thread, he gave a lot of RL excuses but those excuses were nai.

where I have more trouble is that gigyas had posted since yet you made that same conclusion.


ebwop - his record for getting mislynched is somewhat relevant, I forget which game it was but I recall him defending himself against a vigshot/vote for not scumhunting, and I felt that argument sort of paralleled what is going on in this game with him.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 16:11 GMT
#1205
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:
mafia
mderg
(no original thoughts. the guy is just following the thread and rarely putting any original thoughts on the thread. Throw suspicions without going after it, like he did talking about me and kush avoiding each otherm and simply isn't caring for actually uncovering people's alignment)


for further clarity

this is the argument you are using against mderg, as far as I've read your filter, and you continue to scum him throughout

this is the argument I am disputing.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 21:43 GMT
#1228
phoneposting.

yeah, 8 players left, 3 mafia.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 21:45 GMT
#1230
odd, he's an experienced player too. hell, he was my coach in my first game on TL.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 21:49 GMT
#1233
On January 07 2016 06:46 mderg wrote:
GB not realizing it's MYLO definitely makes one doubt. Of course he could be saying that on purpose but still...


Hmmm, does it make sense for scum to wifom something like this? IDK.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 21:56 GMT
#1238
On January 07 2016 06:54 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, lynch me today
When I flip town lynch my scum reads

They are Giygas/mderg/?

Also remember what I said on NM before

I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day.

I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads.

6 hours ago I think.


gb was final vote, and the prior vote count with the 7 other votes was 23h ago. so even that is possible wifom.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 21:59 GMT
#1241
FF hasn't posted in 20 hours.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 22:00 GMT
#1244
What the hell?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 22:01 GMT
#1248
Wait there was no second blue role?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 22:02 GMT
#1250
I am at a loss for words.

GlowingBear I'm sorry.

GGs everyone else.

DoYouHas, I am grateful for your expertise, KMatt fantastic go as first time on the forum and James way to hang tight.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 22:05 GMT
#1255
1000% agreed. As soon as the noms go up for 2016, I am definitely putting in for DYH for that category. really appreciate him taking a decent chunk of his leave to help us with our scum game.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 22:07 GMT
#1256
Could the mods please explain why there was only one blue role? Not trying to be persnickety but we were trying to brace for a blue claim in mylo and none ever came. Now I realise why...
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-06 22:09:33
January 06 2016 22:08 GMT
#1258
Also Onegu, why do you call Fidei F-word dude for real? I can only imagine what comms are like when you two play dota together.

(Speaking of which, I mislynched two dota players, woohoo!)
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-06 22:59:09
January 06 2016 22:12 GMT
#1261
On January 07 2016 07:08 nooniansoong wrote:
I had the sneaking suspicion that NM was too agreeable but godamn he did so much analysis..
kmatt how is that your first game.. you liar


I'll keep that in mind.

I hear so many people moan about playing scum and I wasn't confident really in my play going into this. But I wanted an honest go and wanted to learn, not gonna learn if you don't play, so if anyone has any comments on my play, shout please, much appreciated.

edit: looking at obs qt, I'm looking at especially Rels and LightningStrike, you caught me well on it looks like.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 22:18 GMT
#1269
obs qt is hilarious. She is utterly fuming. You have no idea.

Artanis, she was reading the thread, she said I was biased.
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