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Can you swear you are not scum ? | ||
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On December 17 2015 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could, but i won't, because it's cheap. If you're town, DP already made a big "emotion to the max" post, so no it's not cheap compared to the standard of this game. And I think you couldn't as scum. | ||
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On December 16 2015 23:20 DarthPunk wrote: it's actually fine for me to die. Just make sure you get the last lynch right. game stuff ends here I have this feeling in the pit of my stomach like I really want to fight my lynch the way I would have in the past but real life takes too much time to play mafia properly and there is no way I can work a 12 hour day on less than 6 hours sleep. During this game I was able to spend at the most 3 hours per day to read and post in the thread and the way I have always played has been in a very interactive way that requires lots of time and attention and spam  Basically the reason I am saying all this because this will be my last game of mafia for the foreseeable future. (No Rayn you will not again convince me to play after I refuse citing time constraints so you can lynch me due to not doing enough.) It is not fair on my past self and all the effort I used to put into this game I loved. I can't play to my own standards and it is incredibly frustrating to be in that situation where instead of a mafia god I am a fucking grandfather who should have already retired. I am grateful though that I got to play in this last game with two of my favourite players ever (marv/Rayn) And someone new who vividly reminds me of how I once played the game. So thanks for that. Also, as it's my own fucking eulogy: Rso you are legit terrible at the game. Artanis fuck you for not trying in vengeful you prick. Rayn thanks for the memories but I still lynched the shit out of you in hydra. Marv you are a god except your ego is a force of fucking nature. Fuck you holy flare. I think that's everything . I'm turning off my phone so I can salvage some sleep. It was a wild ride while it lasted. Peace! Do you think this is cheap if DP is scum ? Or better / worse than cheap ? | ||
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On December 18 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care. It is not the right question. The right question is "is DP scum or town for that" and the right answer is; town There is not my question though. If you're town, that post was made by scum. On a scale from 0 to 10, corresponding to "horrible person" to "angel", how would you rate DP as a person ? | ||
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On December 18 2015 00:19 GreYMisT wrote: So first off everyone needs to have a lynch target and analysis post before day end. a new one. if someone does not everyone is to assuume that person is scum. I will have one as well, so dont worry. I also have something and I want both DP and Rels to humor me, and i'd like rayn to go along with it. I'd like both of you to do your best to make a case on rayn. disregard how unlikly it is, or whether or not its something youu actually believe. ill be here occassionally to respond, but ill mainly be following along and gathering my thoughts for the end of night post. LOL you're the doc not the mayor last time I checked. But it's going to be easy. I think rayn is scum because he couldn't swear he's town; and I think I know why. If he swears he's town, that means DP is confirmed being a super dick posting a super cheap post; and rayn cannot do this. | ||
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On December 18 2015 01:07 DarthPunk wrote: What is cheap about that post exactly? Everything in it was true and I fucking self voted, I wasn't angry or rage quitting. I just hoped Rayn would win the game after I died. It's cheap if you're scum. | ||
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On December 18 2015 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I completely understand this from the town point of view. This makes no sense from mafia point of view. It makes completely sense that DP is angry at himself here as he has had time constraints in comparison to each other. As his play revolves around interacting with people, i can understand it's really fucking annoying when someone calls you out for basically "not interacting" when it has been impossible for you. Now he COULd have played differently but... ...if DarthPunk is mafia here, my case is the exact reason he is mafia, and he knows it. That is the reason i don't see him making this post, especially the bolded part, as mafia. It doesn't make any sense to get genuinely mad when someone calls you scum for the reasons you are scum for. It just doesn't make any fucking sense to me. - Furthermore his read evolvement on Greymist throughout the game is really townie - His actions during D1, when marv was here are pure townie (i have talked about this before) There is basically no way he is scum here. My reaction when I read that post this morning: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU DESERVE TO LOSE | ||
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On December 18 2015 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey actually, i have a question to both of you. Who would you have killed if you were mafia and why? GM. Cause if I was scum you would not be voting me. | ||
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1 - I am obvious town to anyone that has played with me as both alignements. But I can fake my town play pretty well so it's normal people doubt. 2 - marv not voting me to survive means we are fucked if we are scum together. If I get lynched D1, marv is super suspicious. Coupled with his difficulty to play scum, there is no way we win. If DP gets lynched D1, marv and I are the obvious team and we have a hard time winning the game. If marv gets lynched D1, I am super suspicious and I have a hard time winning the game. Now: On December 14 2015 05:38 Damdred wrote: Marv is town, the reason I say this is he hates giving town information if he is scum and going to roll over. Two hours and thirty to go and he comes in and tries to fins scum? Maybe he gets lynched maybe not but I he basically Poe town and I don't think scum marv does that on his death bed+ tone. ##unvote marv hates giving information when he's playing scum. He's almost sure to be the lynch D1, and virtually garanteed to be lynched D2 if town if lynched D1. So it's impossible marv goes for a play that results of his team being the "obvious" suspects whatever the lynch person is (see above). | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Rels, if we lynch you it's you who deserves to lose if you are town. Not me. No. People are never confirmed town for emotional BS in my mind. If you really have discarded DP as a suspect because of this, you deserve to lose. Unless you're scum ofc, then you kinda deserve to win, even if you were helped by arsoul not doing shit. | ||
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Mm maybe I base this on the quote that is ON THE FUCKING POST JUST ABOVE THIS PARAGRAPH | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: What? Why is shooting GM the best play for you? Cause he's doc and potentially (even if unlikely) didn't save you or Damdred N1. GM is safe kill. And, again, you would not be voting me if I was scum. | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except i do not think anyone is confirmed town for emotional BS. I legitmately think your actions in this game are more scummy than DP's. So how about you start telling why you are not scum and why me/DP is scum instead of.. .emotional BS? I do not need to do anything else. I just proved beyond reasonnable doubt I was not scum; marv would never go for the no-vote on me if he was partner with me. That do not make DP or you scum, but that makes me almost confirmed town. On December 18 2015 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: So because Damdred said so it must be true? Damdred also said you are mafia at some point. Is that true too? People having opinions of people's alignement != people stating facts about people meta. | ||
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rayn you are almost confirmed town for that marv lynch too. You just need to see that I cannot be his partner given the way he played. | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) Yes, so am i and so is DP. So hety.. we have a problem here right? 2) Let's say for a second i believe you here. Which brings me back to my question; Why does marv not sheep me into lynching you? Because that would make him not suspicious.... 3) a bit more on this. marv was NOT "almost sure to be the lynch D1" when he started posting because me and DP unvoted him, Greymist later. I don't know what game you are reading if this is your interpretation of the situation. I don't know the #1 about DP. Apparently he's way more aggressive as town though (see arsoul first post .... LOL), but if you don't see a difference, whatever. #2 EXACTLY. If marv was scum with me, he would have sheeped you into me. The way he played, he gave away his partner, and the only way I or he can defend against it afterwards is by playing the WIFOM card. Like I'm doing right now actually. #3 When he started posting, he was the lynch. Then I was. If he succesfully deflected the lynch off me by lynching DP, we look bad. If I am the lynch, he looks bad. | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels you are arguing in circles again... Can you go into N2 end and answer my post on you and DP with the best you can? This isn't helping rn. If you want. In return, please think about the situation. Yes it's WIFOM; and yes it doens't make sense (especially for "doesn't give info to town" marv) to put the two scums into the "obvious suspects" position. marv is the lynch. He starts posting. Rels is the lynch. marv deflects the lynch to DP. I deflect the lynch to arsoul. If DP is lynched => marv and I are the obvious team. If I am lynched => marv looks bad. If marv is lynched => I look bad. This move doesn't have a scum motivation. WIFOM is a tool for scum to escape situations they look scummy when looked in the "obvious" way; but scums wouldn't make themselves look bad just for WIFOM. | ||
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