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On December 18 2015 10:13 Damdred wrote:
Last post you can ignore me later koshi, what's mafia motivation to try to switch last minute from two towns and draw attention to themselves?
As a townie you would have wanted to make the right choice between kush and gb. There was a 0% cha ce Vivax would happen. You would have wanted to vote "right" as a townie. But instead you wasted your vote.
I do not give a single fuck why you would do it as mafia. Only mafia would do it. You did not have a good enough townread on both gb and kush at that moment that you didnt want to make the best choice between them to go forward in solving the game. It was important for towns progression to lynch between gb and kush.
Ahhh why am I explaining this to mafia... They dont get it.
Tomorrow I will point out why it is best to lynch damdred first. Never lynch the person a suspicious player calls town. At least rels called damdred mafia.
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1) pretend to care about the lynch
2) put suspicion on saved person.
3) save teammate
4) wifom in every shape or form
5) yolo plays to look town
5 different reasons why mafia could do it. There are kore and some can be split up further.
I am sleeping 0229
Everybody who townreads damdred is a bad player.
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On December 18 2015 18:01 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2015 08:09 Koshi wrote:
I ll keep my filter low this game. Just going to focus on cases and finding mafia.
Not making excuses but my game might be trash.
We will see. But I will not be buddied.
disclaimer: don't expect too much though. Will probably still be pretty low content stuff. Koshi now with an 8 page filter... Lol Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Vivax is impossble and fucking no information in there if he flips town. What the fuck are you doing Damdred. You fucker. Koshi why do you keep siding with Vivax based on nothing? I know you did this last game as town, but there he at least went bonkers when I pushed him. What has he done to deserve you defending him like you have this game? Also you've ebeen pretty sure Rels and Damred are mafia together today, but I think I showed why thats not possible in my big wall back there. What do you think about them now?
Vivax could be mafia. But he also could be town.
Remember how in last game I actually found that GB could not be mafia because of the fefe fiter? And that Chrom was most likely mafia from the fefe filter?
Retarded as I am, I didn't follow that information, BUT, that kind of information is HUGE. Also, I think there is a very good chance Damdred flips mafia, Vivax is like 60% due to PoE.
Damdred is 60% due to PoE and I got brilliant reasons.
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I hope you are town Onegu. I would enjoy actually seeing you play a game as town. Then you can realize how hard actually playing is. I do not believe rsoultin is so insanely crazy to play as Shape is doing. Totally different stuff.
Damdred is mafia. +85%
Rels is maybe mafia. But he actually also has pushed the people I think most likely are mafia. Maybe Rels is their powerrole, but I am not going to go into WIFOM lane and I prefer not to lynch Rels atm. Even though the cases on him are believable.
Vivax could very well be mafia. But he is not worth lynching in this stage of the game for me. Maybe somebody can shoot him?
Kush is looking less and less mafia. But I think he still can be. I cannot shake the feeling he was saved EoD1. I do not think he is mafia with Rels though.
Onegu..................................................... I don't know. I just can't read him it seems. You people decide on him. I would lynch him.
TT. The reason why TT is mafia: He hasn't solved the game in his mind yet. Or isn't pushing for the solution of the game. I know he does that as town. Just like I do it, I want people to follow my solution. TT normally does the same. But dnu if I want to lynch.
Tubesock. I don't think he is mafia. But he is like... the most possible after all these others?
others are town
Why I don't want to lynch Rels yet:
- Rels is being scumread by TT (and Tubesock) and voted Kush, while Kush was saved by TT and Damdred.
Somewhere it could be that Rels/TT/Kush are mafia... and then TT saved Kush while Damdred was being pants on head. But because TT is more townie than Damdred, and because EoD1 I think it is way more likely Damdred is mafia. Also general posting of TT >>>> Damdred.
all in all... I know I haven't solved the game 100% certain yet. And all my uncertainties kinda push a Rels lynch.... So... I kinda push against that now.
Another good reason why Onegu is mafia, he already said a couple times this:
If we lynch this guy and he flips this alignment then Koshi is this alignment.
You need to fill in names and alignments but I remember him saying:
if we lynch TT and TT is scum, koshi is town.
if we lynch Rels and Rels is town, we lynch Koshi.
And these sentences make me VERY WARY of Onegu................
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If we lynch mafia today it looks really good for us.
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Yeah. For me there is a very good possibility that Kush/Rels/Damdred are mafia together and that Damded did a yolo play to save Kush.
There is something unholy about them.
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On December 18 2015 23:35 Tubesock wrote:
Koshi.
Uhm your bit about Onegu is mafia because he uses association reads?
You don't want to lynch Rels / Kush because of association reads.(basically)?
your "others are town" are GiygaS, LightningStrike, and Shapelog, right?
What has your town done to help town win?
Tubesock. Don't piss me off.
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Tube is town Rels... Come on....
If we want to kill people who make ridiculous cases I think Onegu is 100 times better.
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I retract that. He actually might be mafia.
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On December 17 2015 10:33 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 10:12 Shapelog wrote:On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote:On December 17 2015 09:45 Shapelog wrote:On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote:On December 17 2015 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Welp, That happen. That's funny shit. I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred? The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it? I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here. And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being, You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything? My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller. So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts. Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum. My town/mafiaRels isn't really all that about meta. I mean it IS but it's not like necessarily Rels specific. Hard to explain. I've seen Rels in like 3 games. He was try hard and forceful in all, both as mafia and town. I respect his play, I think he's a strong player. It's not a meta read where it's like "Well, X person uses 15 smiley faces per paragraph, and this game she's doing 5" It's more like mafia Rels doesn't HAVE to go after it all the time. But town Rels basically does. In any case, disregard the meta bit. Do you think he's solving the game or attacking easy targets or only people who look at him? We can argue the semantics if Damdred is an easy target or not later. I'm even willing to concede Damdred is no easy target. My point still stands.
Do you like this read Kush? Is it legit?
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On December 19 2015 02:39 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 02:36 Koshi wrote:On December 17 2015 10:33 Tubesock wrote:On December 17 2015 10:12 Shapelog wrote:On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote:On December 17 2015 09:45 Shapelog wrote:On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote:On December 17 2015 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Welp, That happen. That's funny shit. I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred? The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it? I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here. And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being, You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything? My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller. So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts. Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum. My town/mafiaRels isn't really all that about meta. I mean it IS but it's not like necessarily Rels specific. Hard to explain. I've seen Rels in like 3 games. He was try hard and forceful in all, both as mafia and town. I respect his play, I think he's a strong player. It's not a meta read where it's like "Well, X person uses 15 smiley faces per paragraph, and this game she's doing 5" It's more like mafia Rels doesn't HAVE to go after it all the time. But town Rels basically does. In any case, disregard the meta bit. Do you think he's solving the game or attacking easy targets or only people who look at him? We can argue the semantics if Damdred is an easy target or not later. I'm even willing to concede Damdred is no easy target. My point still stands. Do you like this read Kush? Is it legit? I don't know about rels. There Tube is using shit meta. I don't think it's a Scummy read tho
Yeah, I just wanted to know if the read is scummy.
hmmmmmm
Rels..... I don't know....
I am so convinced on Damdred being mafia...
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##unvote
##vote Rels
Hmm The big posts from TT looks good enough to follow. I don't think it is scummy at all Kush. Pretty well written.
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A lot of people are set to lynch Rels. I think his flip will force a lot of people to do new shit. So if he is town it isn't the worst.
(the above sentence looks fucking terrible, but it is somewhat true)
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There are so many things that make Rels mafia. I could easily list 10 I think.
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1) first post is 9 hours into the game, a 7 page game and rels can't keep up. Townie could just read and give an honest opinion on what he saw. Rels probably couldn't be bother to fake one and went for the excuse instead.
2) Even though he has no time, he finds time to ask useless questions (asks ls list with no follow up), and parrot good looking posts. This is mafia showing activity, not a townie solving the game.
3) The LS case he waited a full hour to post has just the links off 2 games. A townie would have posted the actual things he found and push the game forward, or try to find a townie who shares the idea. A mafia just collects the extra "towncred" in a later stadium when he can explain the post. free activity on 1 meta case spread over many hours....
4) dropped the ls case for a all caps lock post even though he had good reasons to think LS was mafia due to the difference in filters. Because difference in filters is better to go on than a caps lock phrase right?
5) following the flow of the thread, rather than solving and pushing it.
6) omgus is real
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10) read TT his case, Tube his case, shape his case.... I forgot who made cases on Rels but there were many.
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But if Rels is mafia... Who the fuck is left? jeezus. Would mafia play this bad? We can auto remove 5 people or something
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maybe ls is mafia after all. That rels meta case would make some more sense if it was mafia on mafia. not that ls looks anywhere near mafia.
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Onegu Rels Damdred? That would work.
How long have I been saying this shit lol.
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On December 19 2015 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi I been busy watching IEM LoL what ups?
LS, just follow the game please.... Limited posts etc etc. Just follow the game and give your opinion. We don't ask much.
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