EPTIn fact if you read my post, you would see it is a most unusual situation.
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In fact if you read my post, you would see it is a most unusual situation. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:51 Shapelog wrote: Who the hell is Rsoultin? like this is the second time someone meation him/her. Also doubt i am smurt if i came into the game with 60+ posts. Was just skimming through when i saw this. Got to start at TT WoT and read to current post. Rsoultin is a player who has been around for just over a year. She's great. Onegu just complains cause he can't decipher her town games from her mafia games. It's not important though. | ||
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I can vote for Damdred but I'm not going to push it and frankly I don't think he's anything but a coinflip at the moment. But I know I won't feel bad even if he flips town. I will explain this post game. | ||
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Thinking they can't be both is fatal. I've already said why. Think about it. You people are already pretty on the fence about Rels. Like I've been pushing for it seems days and days. You are on the fence with him NOW. Now think about a world where Kush died AND flipped mafia. NO ONE would consider Rels mafia. No one. This does NOT mean they are mafia mates. It does however debunk the silly idea that they can't be both mafia so which one is town argument. Evaluate them on their own. Spend more time thinking and less time posting. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:15 GiygaS wrote: Can someone point me at the cases against rels and damdred? I don't want to miss any. I know I made one on rels long ago but I don't know exactly who else has. Have you read any post this game? Seriously. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:17 Tubesock wrote: Have you read any post this game? Seriously. Wait, do you mean a Rels and Damdred team case? If so then disregard. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:18 GiygaS wrote: I have, and I have good ideas of both overall cases, but I'm trying to seriously evaluate them and I don't want to miss anything. Apologies, I was about to lose my shit if you said you didn't know I made a case. | ||
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First, here is presumeably the post that set him off. (he quoted my followup to this post) I'm adding italic'd bold thoughts and will underline phrases of interest. On December 18 2015 23:03 Tubesock wrote: I don't think it's impossible Rels and Kush4masta are not mafia mates. I also think I could be wrong on one or even both possibly. Apparently, a lot of you read this as I'm saying they both are mafia mates and this is exactly what happened. My point here is simply that bussing Day 1 in this very specific instance is a better play than trying to save your partner. And thus is possible, and you should not town someone or disregard an argument that one or the other is mafia because they simply "can't be teammates". I think it was Kush's first post where he said he may want replaced out due to not being a big game. He had that post where he expressed disappointment that he did not die. This is a player who does not want to play. If Kush4masta was lynched, Rels would have looked mighty towny. Kush4masta did not want to play. I had a post where I said to Kush4masta "I don't want to be a dick but do you want to revise this statement?" and bolded a portion in one of his quotes. 2 people immediately saw it and commented on it. Lynch liars. I don't remember why exactly I put this line in here. It's kinda separate thought. Tell me that these two can't be mafia together. On December 18 2015 23:46 Rels wrote: Am I reading this right Cause if I am, you are pushing the idea that scum USUALLY BUSSES HAPPILY DAY 1 (I am not at all pushing scum "usually" or "happily" bus Day 1 I don't even really see how he gets that), that it was a plan (yes, I did think this scenario as I described is plausible and planned), and I followed that plan BY CALLING FOR A VIG SHOT ON MY PARTNER N1 (This is completely irrelevant to my argument. It doesn't negate it in any way) You even read my FUCKING sotw game where I deflected all pushes against my partners, most importantly from AFK Damdred D1 (This is an entirely different scenario) THIS POST WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN LIKE THIS BUT I FEAR THE MODKILL This is zero meta. You can substitute literally any player in the database and I still think this is plausible and negates any "can't be teammate" arguments. You have a guy who immediately wants replaced, but learns this is a no replacement game. He's on your mafia team. He's not a guy who lives even if he try hards as either alignment. So, yeah tell me bussing him wouldn't be a great idea? you will lose him to a lynch anyway. The amount of town cred for killing mafia Day 1 is far more valueable than his life and any credit you can muster D3 or even 2. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:36 GiygaS wrote: Vivax is worth discussing if he shows up. True. if. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:47 Tictock wrote: I'll get to it Koshi, but here is why I think you are mafia and why people should be voting for you. - Insists Damdred is Mafia, wants to vote Rels who made a case on Damdred D1 - Keeps pushing a team that makes no sense, based only on Damdred's shenannies EoD1 - Very defensive of AFK Vivax for no reason - Shit fighting with Onegu just kus it's Onegu and always pushing him as mafia (like you've got 5 mafia in your lists and seem to want to push them all equally) I think the biggest things here are you ignoring that Rels/Damdred is never a thing, and you keep saying Damdred is scum but push Rels. This isn't true. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:58 Shapelog wrote: I already know TT's incoming question, Can you Explain? Also yeah, lately even Koshius is sus. about his house elf friend Vobby. Still null/idk read him i think. First part I was thinking Kush in my head instead of Damdred. But do you think Rels really pushed his case? Like invested in it? I remember him moving on to other folks pretty quick. So, yeah I think he could have done a case and backed off. Anyone could have. He's had 1 scum game. Why would anyone play exactly the same on their 2nd scum game? I certainly didn't. Why would he? Koshi bases his case against Damdred on his shenanies. Koshi also sees a lot scummy with Rels. Koshi doesn't see any strong evidence that they can't be together. They are all separate points. Sure about the defensive I guess. yeah he shit fights and they don't like each other. Soooo not all of it isn't true. | ||
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C u guys later back in a bit. | ||
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On December 19 2015 14:22 Sukrit wrote: Shape making his posts intentionally hard to read. Scum True, but it's actually super towny. And if you don't want to figure it out, I don't think you're actually town. | ||
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I disagree on Ritoky's actual reason to town Shape, but I agree to me he is confirmed town. Damdred, who knows. But yeah I could probably lynch him. | ||
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I think Sukrit is mostly town. The one thing I don't like is his fall off but I'm wifoming myself a bit there. Easy for a mafia to have a "strong" start such as it was and then do nothing after. Kush - I didn't like his exchange with me. Some of the posts just gave me the flashbacks. Old game, a mafia guy gave me some town read for X reasons in this big post I worked my ass on. But there were like 5 other posts with better examples of X, he was just being lazy. But I really liked Kush's actions and interaction with Koshi end of Day 2... and I think Kush lied, but I'm struggling with if that lie mattered in the context of what he actually said. Damdred - I think I've said everything I think about him already and recently. I have a new tinfoil that I'm thinking about which points him town but not worth mentioning here. He's certainly been anti-town. GiygaS - I don't like his Shape case. I think he was nitpicking an unimportant detail. Scumming Shape for miss referencing the "Confirmed" post. Ritoky basically did confirm him so it wasn't that. Plus, I don't like the hypocricy where he typed "I still DON"T have him (Shape) as scum" which was clearly a typo as he meant he still did have him as scum. But then I'm the one who wasn't reading his post. Then he asked me a question which I later answered (not directly mind you) which told me he wasn't really reading and thinking about my posts. And the glorious scumtell. God that was awesome. Vivax - duh | ||
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Vote Vivax. | ||
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On phone so quote sucks. But I said "Vivax Dies day 3, C u later" Cu is copper is cop. Dies day 3 is a reference to Star Wars with anakin/dearth Vader. As in Vivax check returns cop or something else so the Vivax question dies. | ||
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