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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 19:56 GMT
#918
On December 18 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
I been here but was extremely tired and starting to get sick with a flu or something :\ Anyways Rels vs Shape seems like Shape comes out top a little bit better. Koshi thinks that both Rels and Damdred could be a team which I highly doubt it honestly because it would be a weird bus.


Shape comes out top a little bit better? This means what for both of their alignments?

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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 20:32 GMT
#922
On December 18 2015 05:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 04:56 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 18 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
I been here but was extremely tired and starting to get sick with a flu or something :\ Anyways Rels vs Shape seems like Shape comes out top a little bit better. Koshi thinks that both Rels and Damdred could be a team which I highly doubt it honestly because it would be a weird bus.


Shape comes out top a little bit better? This means what for both of their alignments?

]

meaning Shape is more likely town and rels looking a little bit scummier based on some of his responses.

oh why's that?
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 20:50 GMT
#927
On December 18 2015 05:36 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 01:29 Damdred wrote:
Ok so I fell asleep and just woke up.

give me three filters to read and I'll find acum if there is between them!

Besides ls, koshi they are hard town reads atm.


Kushm4sta, you town Damdred for this post. I don't really get it. Can you explain. Honestly, I'm townleaning Damdred for the same "reason" (tonal attitude) but uh I think this quote represents it better:

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote:
Oooo damdred gets all the balme come at me I'll fucking eat you up and bm you until day phase where hopefully a big shoots me.

come fucking at me


I have a problem with Damdreds top quote. But I actually have an even bigger problem with you towning him for it (at least the part you towned him for). Why did you pick that quote over others that well showed more "cockiness" or whatever?


My reason for townreading damred is not exactly tonal at all.
1 The reasoning behind his rel's case was solid and townie.
2 "Give me 3 filters and ill tell you who is scum between them" - at once cocky about his ability to find scum and honest that he doesn't have time to filter everybody
3 Pragmatism near EoD. He wanted his vote to help town.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 21:24 GMT
#931
On December 18 2015 06:11 Koshi wrote:
I stick to my 4 names.


as in you still think i'm scum? bad koshi.

On December 18 2015 06:08 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 05:50 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 18 2015 05:36 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2015 01:29 Damdred wrote:
Ok so I fell asleep and just woke up.

give me three filters to read and I'll find acum if there is between them!

Besides ls, koshi they are hard town reads atm.


Kushm4sta, you town Damdred for this post. I don't really get it. Can you explain. Honestly, I'm townleaning Damdred for the same "reason" (tonal attitude) but uh I think this quote represents it better:

On December 16 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote:
Oooo damdred gets all the balme come at me I'll fucking eat you up and bm you until day phase where hopefully a big shoots me.

come fucking at me


I have a problem with Damdreds top quote. But I actually have an even bigger problem with you towning him for it (at least the part you towned him for). Why did you pick that quote over others that well showed more "cockiness" or whatever?


My reason for townreading damred is not exactly tonal at all.
1 The reasoning behind his rel's case was solid and townie.
2 "Give me 3 filters and ill tell you who is scum between them" - at once cocky about his ability to find scum and honest that he doesn't have time to filter everybody
3 Pragmatism near EoD. He wanted his vote to help town.


1. Agree

2. I think broken promises are more scummy than towny and are easy to make as mafia. Which he's capable of. Why'd you pick this quote to express that?

3. I don't think the shenany was mafia motivated necessarily but it certainly didn't help town. But there is a very possible scenario where both you are mafia. And he did save your life.


Why did you choose LS to filter dive instead of any of the other question marks?


2 because it shows cockiness and honesty about not reading like i said...doesn't matter that he didn't keep his promise. that is because of irl not because of mafia. he is able to write plenty as mafia.

3 I'm not talking about the outcome, i'm talking about his attitude going in it. He hadn't done the reading and didn't have good reads, but he wanted his vote to be helpful regardless.

Why did I dive LS? Because he was controversial at the time. And I had already started him.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 21:39 GMT
#933
tubesock i just realized you put my in a position of hard defending damdred when my townread of him really isn't super strong. Especially him asking for 3 filters isn't really that townie. Also I am rethinking his case on rels, now that I myself have read rels and don't really agree.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 21:55 GMT
#936
lol koshi haven't you played enough mafia yet to realize you are always wrong?
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 22:55 GMT
#947
On December 18 2015 07:28 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 06:39 kushm4sta wrote:
tubesock i just realized you put my in a position of hard defending damdred when my townread of him really isn't super strong. Especially him asking for 3 filters isn't really that townie. Also I am rethinking his case on rels, now that I myself have read rels and don't really agree.


Kush who is your top scum right now?

D1 you were very quick to vote and pushed GB while ignoring a lot of the game.

Today I see you going around giving out townreads.


I was not ignoring d1. I simply had no time. Gb wasn't acting townie so I wanted him dead.

I don't have a top scum read. Yes I have a bunch of town reads. Some of them may be wrong. Also I have not filtered anyone yet. After i filter everyone you will get a proposed scumteam and i can tell you how certain the read is on each.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 23:36 GMT
#964
On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.

he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.

ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.

idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.


@tubesock
i actually misunderstood this. i thought he saying rels is scummy because he is super paranoid of obvious town. Instead he is saying he's scummy because he's not super paranoid of obvious town. The meaning isn't exactly opposite because damdred is implying the town isn't obvious.
So I don't like the case as much.

Also your point about people selling their cases. I would say selling your case is actually more townie. Scum usually don't care if people vote with them. They just want to look town. Town really believes in something and want everyone else to believe it too.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 00:20 GMT
#976
Why are you so sure koshi....
This is omgus but is koshi possible mafia? I really don't want to read his filter,
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 00:32 GMT
#982
Nvm koshis town.
But koshi bro this shit happens every game and you are always wrong. Can I learn from your mistake and be less pigheaded?
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 00:34 GMT
#986
On December 18 2015 09:33 Damdred wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch Damdred first I really don't care

nooo dude you have to help me find mafia
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 00:44 GMT
#997
yeah i agree with you the PoE is brutal this game.
but still

On December 18 2015 09:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 09:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Nvm koshis town.
But koshi bro this shit happens every game and you are always wrong. Can I learn from your mistake and be less pigheaded?

There is no fucking way Shape is mafia.
ya prob not. way too much content

There is no fucking way mafia!TT decided to be so active before the lynch and then made that ritoky is mafia case right before they shot ritoky.
i dont agree. scum can be active at EoD. Also maybe he wanted to get towncreds out of his case before he couldn't use it anymore. I remember many times people on the scumteam are fake scumreading someone who gets shot. Also is it possible presents messed up the shot?

There is no way GaygiS Khan is mafia.
I give him a preliminary townread but im not sure about "no way"

There is a very very small way LS is mafia. But I seriously doubt it. I just haven't read his filter. But I don't believe it for a sec he is mafia.
there is a chance. Cant speak to this because i dont have a good fell for his meta

Tubesock doesn't feel mafia.
crap feel read

I don't know what Vivax is doing. Pretty disgusted by it.
he's busy or bored by mafia. that's not disgusting. it's just life. but yeah he is null.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 01:03 GMT
#1010
[QUOTE]On December 15 2015 03:09 Tictock wrote:
[quote]
Thinking about it now it would be pretty odd for you to join your first game heree, roll mafia, then try to use meta reads. Guess I'm just overreacting kus meta is kinda overused here and often used badly ( glares at Rels).[/QUOTE]

this is a good townie piece of logic i think
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 10:53 GMT
#1061
Really not impressed with that exam schedule post. I'm sure it's true but the pressure want even on him. Scummy because he wants to take advantage of an irl excuse to its fullest. He could have just said I have exams.

Onegu no one wants your steam of consciousness. That does not help find scum.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 16:20 GMT
#1096
Here's some tinfoily stuff.


On December 17 2015 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
Plus killing the person who is defending you seems like only a thing i do.

ritoky defended shape.

Do not think my actively is actually any alignment indicating for me. Would of been the same activeness roughly if I rolled mafia. Except maybe a bit thought out and better fleshed posts since i had a team to relay things. But then i prob. post dumb, dull, crap time to time because they weren't on lol.


what if shape is giving himself away here just as a little wink to himself
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 16:21 GMT
#1097
gonna placeholder vivax bbl at lynch
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 17:31 GMT
#1102
Koshi I like most of what onegu has to say. On the other hand that vote from rels is omgus and terrible.
Why would tube know exactly how you played as scum and why would he assume you played the same way every game...
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 17:39 GMT
#1104
On December 19 2015 02:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 10:33 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 10:12 Shapelog wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:45 Shapelog wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Welp, That happen.


That's funny shit.

I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred?

The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it?


I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here.

And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being,

You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything?


My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller.

So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts.


Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum.


My town/mafiaRels isn't really all that about meta. I mean it IS but it's not like necessarily Rels specific. Hard to explain. I've seen Rels in like 3 games. He was try hard and forceful in all, both as mafia and town. I respect his play, I think he's a strong player. It's not a meta read where it's like "Well, X person uses 15 smiley faces per paragraph, and this game she's doing 5" It's more like mafia Rels doesn't HAVE to go after it all the time. But town Rels basically does.

In any case, disregard the meta bit. Do you think he's solving the game or attacking easy targets or only people who look at him? We can argue the semantics if Damdred is an easy target or not later. I'm even willing to concede Damdred is no easy target. My point still stands.

Do you like this read Kush? Is it legit?


I don't know about rels.
There Tube is using shit meta. I don't think it's a Scummy read tho
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 17:44 GMT
#1106
Rels Damdred ls Gigas vivax are all on my maybe list
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 18 2015 17:54 GMT
#1114
Yah I'm going over rels filter again now. I think I could lynch him.
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