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On December 08 2015 00:48 Rels wrote:
@fidei and anyone thinking NM is scum: it probably means DYH is also scum. If NM is scum, the scum strategy is to bus HTS for max town cred. In that case, it doesn't make sense that the third mafia is someone hesitating on the lynch like disfo or LS.
That would be a super sick scum play.
On December 08 2015 00:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 00:48 disformation wrote:On December 08 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:
Well here is my mind right now:
Shining, disfo and LS are town.
Kills points at Trfel and fidei. DYH is also an attractive lynch, but kills don't point to him. Finally, fidei's point about NM's being so sure of HTS the minute he enters the thread makes some sense.
Looks like FF didn't make any list. Means he's likely town. Hm... think I can agree to most of it. But can you explain your read on LS? Last time I looked at him I wasn't impressed. Both Damdred and Palmar townread him the a high level (confirmed town for Damdred, probably town for Palmar). Him screaming "I'M VT" at deadline of D1.
I don't really get the modconfirm thing... but I remember finding a few instances of him behaving similar in other of his town games. Also would love to sheep my town!damdy on that. xD
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Going to leave work now... not that I am getting anything done...
Going to get some groceries on the way.
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On December 08 2015 02:00 Rels wrote:
To the first person reading this with free time: can you read fidei s past town games and compare the robotic tone to this one
Hm. Interesting he only has five town games in the database. I guess I am not the only one RNGesus doesn't want to be scum.
TBH I am not a big fan of only reading some filters from old games, since without the context and/or a personal connection to that game it is kinda tedious and boring. But I'll run a quick check on his town games in NSM12 and NSM14.
Won't do personality mafia, because I think that game was too crazy to get a good tone from. 
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NSM12 up to day 2: very similar to this. Starting D2 he starts to show a bit of life in his posts when talking with/to HtS and his scum reads.
NSM14 he also sounds very similar to here... well besides this thing:
On September 08 2015 09:05 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 08:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
eh. i still think it's copcake + fidei with someone else but i might be getting too tunneled. fidei comes off looking worse from this. BEFORE I GO TO BED I WANT TO POINT OUT IN ALL CAPITALS THAT MOOSY HAS NEITHER OF THE CLAIMED F****** DOCTORS IN HIS F****** SCUM LIST. LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE EITHER OF THEM? Are you kidding me with this shit?
But playing with cupcake can be rather rage inducing. So I understand.
But the overwhelming amount of posts sounds like this game. So I guess that is just his default tone and dub him Mr. Roboto.
Will look at his filter from this game more closely now.
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On December 08 2015 04:12 NocturneMage wrote:
evaluating Fidei that is.
And here I thought you were planning on eating him, too.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On December 08 2015 04:28 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 04:14 disformation wrote:On December 08 2015 04:12 NocturneMage wrote:
evaluating Fidei that is. And here I thought you were planning on eating him, too. + Show Spoiler + We eating Dota players apparantly if he does try to eat James lol.... Anyways I still scratching my head on Palmar's NK. Like I don't a lot of people were townreading him(I was right on him at least). It would implicate someone who knows Palmar or Palmar was right on someone and they panic kill him(prob the later since I think I the only one who really have a lot of experience playing with him.
Don't think Mr. Roboto will taste too good. Too much oil and metal.
Currently eating and looking at his filter.
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On December 08 2015 04:46 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 03:46 disformation wrote:NSM12 up to day 2: very similar to this. Starting D2 he starts to show a bit of life in his posts when talking with/to HtS and his scum reads. NSM14 he also sounds very similar to here... well besides this thing: On September 08 2015 09:05 Fidei86 wrote:On September 08 2015 08:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
eh. i still think it's copcake + fidei with someone else but i might be getting too tunneled. fidei comes off looking worse from this. BEFORE I GO TO BED I WANT TO POINT OUT IN ALL CAPITALS THAT MOOSY HAS NEITHER OF THE CLAIMED F****** DOCTORS IN HIS F****** SCUM LIST. LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE EITHER OF THEM? Are you kidding me with this shit? But playing with cupcake can be rather rage inducing. So I understand. But the overwhelming amount of posts sounds like this game. So I guess that is just his default tone and dub him Mr. Roboto. Will look at his filter from this game more closely now. It wasn't Cake, it was Moosy. I should have lynched that MFer.
I often refer to MoosyDoosy as cupcake and/or sweetheart. You know because I really enjoy playing with him.
Will make my use of nicknames for the nicknames of players more distinct in the future.
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On December 08 2015 04:51 disformation wrote:I often refer to MoosyDoosy as cupcake and/or sweetheart. You know because I really enjoy playing with him. + Show Spoiler +Will make my use of nicknames for the nicknames of players more distinct in the future.
edited for clarity.
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Sry, this will probably end up being a rant on Fidei86's filter.
Hm so while he was suspicious on HtS at the start he then moves to:
On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote:
Town
Shining - He was winning townie plaudits for his fight with Palmar, but rather than carry it on (and continuing to crap up the thread) he stopped (or at least tried to) and gave a good read post at #229. I like his read on dis, which I agree with. He asks Kush and Moosy to do more, at a stage where the better Mafia play would have been to ignore them and let town coalesce towards a "lynch all idiots" lynch. (Disclaimer: I previously called him out for not stopping the fight, but a re-read of his filter shows he was trying to stop it but Palmar wouldn't let it go.)
Trfel - Rels is right, for someone with over 3k posts Trfel sure apologises a lot. He seems to have some sort of reason for his early LS read, which I don't really care about. I actually like is read on Rels "why is he just throwing shit everywhere." Maybe town side of null. His later posts show quite nuanced reasoning. Moved to town for now, otherwise mostly everyone would be null
Dis - he and Trfel are playing similarly in my view. Both reading the thread, giving thoughts relatively fearlessly. Nothing that particularly jumps out as scummy. Lean read.
Null
Damdred - underwhelmed by his reads, which seem to mostly have been of Shining. Need to filter dive. No sense in lynching today.
Damdred - whole filter is super underwhelming. Says he has town reads, but then just gives me and Shining without and further explanation. Lacklustre but posts come off as condescending. Scum side of null but wouldn't lynch yet.
HTS - I am scared of a Mafia Dani, and that is probably colouring my read of her. One thing I'm not sure of is why she voted for DYH having just excoriated kush for his dumbass post about voting for Rels.
Palmar - his entire first act was fighting with Shining. He made his point, and I agreed with it. But he kept pushing and pushing beyond when it was reasonable. I also didn't like that he called my first post "fine" and "null" but at another point said I was a "tow read". Says he doesn't want to lynch into me, then later says I'd be an okay lynch? Huh? I had him in Mafia, but his last few reads on Damdred and
Rels - I'm all over the place on Rels. I've made the point that Mafia Rels tends to buddy harder than he is here. But in this game he seems to be talking in complete parallel to the thread, raising points others aren't but not engaging in the same sort of manner I would expect from a town Rels. But I actually really like his DYH read and vote.
Mafia
LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O
Useless
Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard"
Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post.
DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read.
Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised.
I have a bit of trouble following his LS progression after that.
Like he thinks LS is scum and then votes kush because kush's progression on LS (who he thinks is scum) is scummy?
N1 he also moves back to HtS...
On December 04 2015 08:39 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not scum. One thing I was thinking is that I actually pinged Dani out a while ago for the same sort of thing Alex is saying now. That's not to say that scum can't bus a little ... Obviously I didn't push Dani that hard. But if Alex agreed with my reasoning, surely it makes me unlikely to be her scum buddy?
Also if I was scum I would 100% have shot Dani. Gameplay regardless, scum Fidei shoots HTS n1 every game. Every time. So there's that.
Bold part for smiles. 
After that he talks a bit about a possible LS/HtS team. Seems a bit focused on certain persons. But he admitted to that earlier.
His probing of NM seems town.
On December 04 2015 23:43 Fidei86 wrote:
I am utterly convinced that LS is Mafia. I am willing to accept that Dani is Mafia, although if she flips town we lynch Alex (possibly before LS).
But I will have time this weekend to read some of the outliers (dis might lynch me if I don't at least read DYH again).
On December 05 2015 00:20 Fidei86 wrote:
So LS, your scum team is me, DYH and Dani. Except scumming DYH is easy because he has been a low volume poster, scumming Dani is easy because Alex, and scumming me is easy because of OMGUS? All of your reasons for town reading people are "they are towny", or a call back to a past game.
This is a really poorly thought through list that shows no conviction and no intention to solve. LS is Mafia.
Does he vote LS?
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 05 2015 00:25 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW James you should check my read progression of DYH? I will. I'll also read DYH's filter this evening. Work is slow today, so I've been able to play a lot of Mafia, but it's all phone posting.
Still waiting.
On December 08 2015 00:40 Fidei86 wrote:
Gun to my head, on a pure gut read basis, I think the Mafia is likely 2 of LS, Disfo and NM. LS and NM I've discussed. Disfo is something I've been mulling for a while, and it's mostly because I feel all of his posts have tried to look useful but actually haven't been. (Filter dives to follow. I mean it this time).
Not sure how "quite a while" translates to "my last mention of him is like super early D2 with a town read", but at least he is looking at more ppl than HtS,NM,LS and Trfel now.
So here we have a bunch of trees.
Let mediate a bit on the forest though.
Yes he was suspicious of HtS early on. Did he push her hard? No.
He seemed very sure about LS being scum. Did he push him? No. Does he vote him? No.
He is very focused on a small group on people. Maybe trying to pick one out of the misslynch list? The reads on those people are also kinda constant. Like the scum read on LS.
Promised to look at DYH, did play dota instead.
While I like his interactions with NM, interactions with other ppl seem to lack a bit.
Did he actually push anyone so far?
So I'd say his desire to solve the game doesn't seem to be very present. Possible vote candidate.
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On December 08 2015 05:45 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2015 22:53 disformation wrote:Hmm... yeah I think I remember you calling out HtS on D1. But here you are "only" slightly suspicious... and what is a little scum lean between good partners? On December 01 2015 21:45 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels
I have looked over HTS' posts, and I am more okay with #209 now that I've read it a few times. There's nothing particularly objectionable in there.
At #219, I disagree with her read on the Palmar / Shining interaction. There is something very strange about Shining's progression, and HTS just skates past it.
She then at #224, #237 and #246 goes forward and then back on on Trfel. She asks Shining about people other than Palmar, but noticeably doesn't ask Palmar about people other than Shining.
I know that HTS is very much a fan of Palmar's scum play. I know that she has previously had him as a coach and that she generally speaks highly of him as a player. It is strange to me that she almost specifically avoids interacting with him, or making any comments about him. Honestly, if she can't read him, it seems like the rest of us don't have a chance.
None of the above is a guaranteed scum-tell. But I find it somewhat suspicious. Town HTS nitpicks as well, but I just always get the sense that she is going somewhere with her thoughts. That seems lacking to me. Still want to look at your whole filter and progression on HtS later tonight. The thing is: someone had to bus her. From my POV two someones have bussed HtS and I am going to find out who. Disfo I think you fundamentally misunderstand what bussing is. Bussing is where one mafia player actively works to get HTS lynched. The only people who really worked on the HTS lynch actively were NM, DYH and me. Oh and Palmar, but he's flipped town. If any of us were mafia, that would be a bus. The fact is that it was plainly obvious that she was going to get lynched once Alex, Palmar and I basically decided it. Lots of the rest of you voted for her, but just voting for a scum is not the same as bussing. Your logic is just totally wrong here.
Oh? Okay, I indeed thought that voting for a scum mate is bussing.
Thanks for the clarification.
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On December 08 2015 05:39 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 05:30 disformation wrote:Sry, this will probably end up being a rant on Fidei86's filter.
Hm so while he was suspicious on HtS at the start he then moves to: On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote:
Town
Shining - He was winning townie plaudits for his fight with Palmar, but rather than carry it on (and continuing to crap up the thread) he stopped (or at least tried to) and gave a good read post at #229. I like his read on dis, which I agree with. He asks Kush and Moosy to do more, at a stage where the better Mafia play would have been to ignore them and let town coalesce towards a "lynch all idiots" lynch. (Disclaimer: I previously called him out for not stopping the fight, but a re-read of his filter shows he was trying to stop it but Palmar wouldn't let it go.)
Trfel - Rels is right, for someone with over 3k posts Trfel sure apologises a lot. He seems to have some sort of reason for his early LS read, which I don't really care about. I actually like is read on Rels "why is he just throwing shit everywhere." Maybe town side of null. His later posts show quite nuanced reasoning. Moved to town for now, otherwise mostly everyone would be null
Dis - he and Trfel are playing similarly in my view. Both reading the thread, giving thoughts relatively fearlessly. Nothing that particularly jumps out as scummy. Lean read.
Null
Damdred - underwhelmed by his reads, which seem to mostly have been of Shining. Need to filter dive. No sense in lynching today.
Damdred - whole filter is super underwhelming. Says he has town reads, but then just gives me and Shining without and further explanation. Lacklustre but posts come off as condescending. Scum side of null but wouldn't lynch yet.
HTS - I am scared of a Mafia Dani, and that is probably colouring my read of her. One thing I'm not sure of is why she voted for DYH having just excoriated kush for his dumbass post about voting for Rels.
Palmar - his entire first act was fighting with Shining. He made his point, and I agreed with it. But he kept pushing and pushing beyond when it was reasonable. I also didn't like that he called my first post "fine" and "null" but at another point said I was a "tow read". Says he doesn't want to lynch into me, then later says I'd be an okay lynch? Huh? I had him in Mafia, but his last few reads on Damdred and
Rels - I'm all over the place on Rels. I've made the point that Mafia Rels tends to buddy harder than he is here. But in this game he seems to be talking in complete parallel to the thread, raising points others aren't but not engaging in the same sort of manner I would expect from a town Rels. But I actually really like his DYH read and vote.
Mafia
LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O
Useless
Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard"
Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post.
DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read.
Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised.
I have a bit of trouble following his LS progression after that. Like he thinks LS is scum and then votes kush because kush's progression on LS (who he thinks is scum) is scummy?
N1 he also moves back to HtS... On December 04 2015 08:39 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not scum. One thing I was thinking is that I actually pinged Dani out a while ago for the same sort of thing Alex is saying now. That's not to say that scum can't bus a little ... Obviously I didn't push Dani that hard. But if Alex agreed with my reasoning, surely it makes me unlikely to be her scum buddy?
Also if I was scum I would 100% have shot Dani. Gameplay regardless, scum Fidei shoots HTS n1 every game. Every time. So there's that. Bold part for smiles. After that he talks a bit about a possible LS/HtS team. Seems a bit focused on certain persons. But he admitted to that earlier.
His probing of NM seems town.
On December 04 2015 23:43 Fidei86 wrote:
I am utterly convinced that LS is Mafia. I am willing to accept that Dani is Mafia, although if she flips town we lynch Alex (possibly before LS).
But I will have time this weekend to read some of the outliers (dis might lynch me if I don't at least read DYH again). On December 05 2015 00:20 Fidei86 wrote:
So LS, your scum team is me, DYH and Dani. Except scumming DYH is easy because he has been a low volume poster, scumming Dani is easy because Alex, and scumming me is easy because of OMGUS? All of your reasons for town reading people are "they are towny", or a call back to a past game.
This is a really poorly thought through list that shows no conviction and no intention to solve. LS is Mafia. Does he vote LS? + Show Spoiler +
On December 05 2015 00:25 Fidei86 wrote:On December 05 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW James you should check my read progression of DYH? I will. I'll also read DYH's filter this evening. Work is slow today, so I've been able to play a lot of Mafia, but it's all phone posting. Still waiting.
On December 08 2015 00:40 Fidei86 wrote:
Gun to my head, on a pure gut read basis, I think the Mafia is likely 2 of LS, Disfo and NM. LS and NM I've discussed. Disfo is something I've been mulling for a while, and it's mostly because I feel all of his posts have tried to look useful but actually haven't been. (Filter dives to follow. I mean it this time). Not sure how "quite a while" translates to "my last mention of him is like super early D2 with a town read", but at least he is looking at more ppl than HtS,NM,LS and Trfel now.
So here we have a bunch of trees. Let mediate a bit on the forest though. Yes he was suspicious of HtS early on. Did he push her hard? No. He seemed very sure about LS being scum. Did he push him? No. Does he vote him? No. He is very focused on a small group on people. Maybe trying to pick one out of the misslynch list? The reads on those people are also kinda constant. Like the scum read on LS. Promised to look at DYH, did play dota instead. While I like his interactions with NM, interactions with other ppl seem to lack a bit. Did he actually push anyone so far? So I'd say his desire to solve the game doesn't seem to be very present. Possible vote candidate. Eh, I'm not going to stand here and say that my play this game has been optimal. Plainly it hasn't been. I haven't been as active as I could have been, and I accidentally basically got our blue lynched D1. There's one thing that screams out to me from your post. You accuse me of not voting for LS, after I post that I'm sure he's mafia. D1 I got cold feet. It was a mistake. Lots of people in the thread were talking about switching, and LS was here at least fighting his corner, while kush was AFK. It was a total spur of the moment decision, and it was wrong. DAY 2, WE WERE LYNCHING HTS. WHO FLIPPED F'ING SCUM. AND I GAVE VERY CLEAR REASONS WHY I WOULD NEVER MOVE OFF HER. WHY WOULD I VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE? Ugh. Like, your other reasons for scumming me are fine, but that one is so bogus, it makes my eyes water. On p77/83.
Uh crud. I think I messed up with the timestamps and assumed the quote I refer to was from N1 and I was confused why you didn't vote/push LS harder, when you just thought he was slamdunk scum.
Rechecked just now and it was way into D2.
So yeah sry, ignore this part, I messed up here. =p
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On December 08 2015 05:57 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 05:39 Fidei86 wrote:On December 08 2015 05:30 disformation wrote:Sry, this will probably end up being a rant on Fidei86's filter.
Hm so while he was suspicious on HtS at the start he then moves to: On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote:
Town
Shining - He was winning townie plaudits for his fight with Palmar, but rather than carry it on (and continuing to crap up the thread) he stopped (or at least tried to) and gave a good read post at #229. I like his read on dis, which I agree with. He asks Kush and Moosy to do more, at a stage where the better Mafia play would have been to ignore them and let town coalesce towards a "lynch all idiots" lynch. (Disclaimer: I previously called him out for not stopping the fight, but a re-read of his filter shows he was trying to stop it but Palmar wouldn't let it go.)
Trfel - Rels is right, for someone with over 3k posts Trfel sure apologises a lot. He seems to have some sort of reason for his early LS read, which I don't really care about. I actually like is read on Rels "why is he just throwing shit everywhere." Maybe town side of null. His later posts show quite nuanced reasoning. Moved to town for now, otherwise mostly everyone would be null
Dis - he and Trfel are playing similarly in my view. Both reading the thread, giving thoughts relatively fearlessly. Nothing that particularly jumps out as scummy. Lean read.
Null
Damdred - underwhelmed by his reads, which seem to mostly have been of Shining. Need to filter dive. No sense in lynching today.
Damdred - whole filter is super underwhelming. Says he has town reads, but then just gives me and Shining without and further explanation. Lacklustre but posts come off as condescending. Scum side of null but wouldn't lynch yet.
HTS - I am scared of a Mafia Dani, and that is probably colouring my read of her. One thing I'm not sure of is why she voted for DYH having just excoriated kush for his dumbass post about voting for Rels.
Palmar - his entire first act was fighting with Shining. He made his point, and I agreed with it. But he kept pushing and pushing beyond when it was reasonable. I also didn't like that he called my first post "fine" and "null" but at another point said I was a "tow read". Says he doesn't want to lynch into me, then later says I'd be an okay lynch? Huh? I had him in Mafia, but his last few reads on Damdred and
Rels - I'm all over the place on Rels. I've made the point that Mafia Rels tends to buddy harder than he is here. But in this game he seems to be talking in complete parallel to the thread, raising points others aren't but not engaging in the same sort of manner I would expect from a town Rels. But I actually really like his DYH read and vote.
Mafia
LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O
Useless
Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard"
Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post.
DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read.
Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised.
I have a bit of trouble following his LS progression after that. Like he thinks LS is scum and then votes kush because kush's progression on LS (who he thinks is scum) is scummy?
N1 he also moves back to HtS... On December 04 2015 08:39 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not scum. One thing I was thinking is that I actually pinged Dani out a while ago for the same sort of thing Alex is saying now. That's not to say that scum can't bus a little ... Obviously I didn't push Dani that hard. But if Alex agreed with my reasoning, surely it makes me unlikely to be her scum buddy?
Also if I was scum I would 100% have shot Dani. Gameplay regardless, scum Fidei shoots HTS n1 every game. Every time. So there's that. Bold part for smiles. After that he talks a bit about a possible LS/HtS team. Seems a bit focused on certain persons. But he admitted to that earlier.
His probing of NM seems town.
On December 04 2015 23:43 Fidei86 wrote:
I am utterly convinced that LS is Mafia. I am willing to accept that Dani is Mafia, although if she flips town we lynch Alex (possibly before LS).
But I will have time this weekend to read some of the outliers (dis might lynch me if I don't at least read DYH again). On December 05 2015 00:20 Fidei86 wrote:
So LS, your scum team is me, DYH and Dani. Except scumming DYH is easy because he has been a low volume poster, scumming Dani is easy because Alex, and scumming me is easy because of OMGUS? All of your reasons for town reading people are "they are towny", or a call back to a past game.
This is a really poorly thought through list that shows no conviction and no intention to solve. LS is Mafia. Does he vote LS? + Show Spoiler +
On December 05 2015 00:25 Fidei86 wrote:On December 05 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW James you should check my read progression of DYH? I will. I'll also read DYH's filter this evening. Work is slow today, so I've been able to play a lot of Mafia, but it's all phone posting. Still waiting.
On December 08 2015 00:40 Fidei86 wrote:
Gun to my head, on a pure gut read basis, I think the Mafia is likely 2 of LS, Disfo and NM. LS and NM I've discussed. Disfo is something I've been mulling for a while, and it's mostly because I feel all of his posts have tried to look useful but actually haven't been. (Filter dives to follow. I mean it this time). Not sure how "quite a while" translates to "my last mention of him is like super early D2 with a town read", but at least he is looking at more ppl than HtS,NM,LS and Trfel now.
So here we have a bunch of trees. Let mediate a bit on the forest though. Yes he was suspicious of HtS early on. Did he push her hard? No. He seemed very sure about LS being scum. Did he push him? No. Does he vote him? No. He is very focused on a small group on people. Maybe trying to pick one out of the misslynch list? The reads on those people are also kinda constant. Like the scum read on LS. Promised to look at DYH, did play dota instead. While I like his interactions with NM, interactions with other ppl seem to lack a bit. Did he actually push anyone so far? So I'd say his desire to solve the game doesn't seem to be very present. Possible vote candidate. Eh, I'm not going to stand here and say that my play this game has been optimal. Plainly it hasn't been. I haven't been as active as I could have been, and I accidentally basically got our blue lynched D1. There's one thing that screams out to me from your post. You accuse me of not voting for LS, after I post that I'm sure he's mafia. D1 I got cold feet. It was a mistake. Lots of people in the thread were talking about switching, and LS was here at least fighting his corner, while kush was AFK. It was a total spur of the moment decision, and it was wrong. DAY 2, WE WERE LYNCHING HTS. WHO FLIPPED F'ING SCUM. AND I GAVE VERY CLEAR REASONS WHY I WOULD NEVER MOVE OFF HER. WHY WOULD I VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE? Ugh. Like, your other reasons for scumming me are fine, but that one is so bogus, it makes my eyes water. On p77/83. Uh crud. I think I messed up with the timestamps and assumed the quote I refer to was from N1 and I was confused why you didn't vote/push LS harder, when you just thought he was slamdunk scum. Rechecked just now and it was way into D2. So yeah sry, ignore this part, I messed up here. =p
EBWOP
N2 obviously... maybe I just stop posting when tired and full of caffeine...
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Hm. scrolling through Trfel's filter...
Is he normally this active as town? Do you guys think he might be cluttering up the thread with his huge posts on purpose this game?
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On December 08 2015 06:59 LightningStrike wrote:I do have a ton of games under my belt but I was mainly given you my more recent games plus all my scum games
Yes. Yes. Good. Good. But why is your filter so long without giving me a clue where your current reads/thoughts are at?
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On December 08 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 07:05 disformation wrote:On December 08 2015 06:59 LightningStrike wrote:I do have a ton of games under my belt but I was mainly given you my more recent games plus all my scum games Yes. Yes. Good. Good. But why is your filter so long without giving me a clue where your current reads/thoughts are at? Ugh they are towards the end of the filter except I starting to rethink about my scum read on DYH. Like his responses to questioning I was trying to see where he's at outside of HTS although it wasn't really well explained but it's better than nothing I guess. Moved DYH to null.
Ah, did miss you restating them by quoting in #1362... tough that was still on page 7/9, which is not exactly towards the end of your filter. =p
So with DYH at null you currently don't have a scum read? But two null reads in Fidei86 and DYH?
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On December 08 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 07:17 disformation wrote:On December 08 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:On December 08 2015 07:05 disformation wrote:On December 08 2015 06:59 LightningStrike wrote:I do have a ton of games under my belt but I was mainly given you my more recent games plus all my scum games Yes. Yes. Good. Good. But why is your filter so long without giving me a clue where your current reads/thoughts are at? Ugh they are towards the end of the filter except I starting to rethink about my scum read on DYH. Like his responses to questioning I was trying to see where he's at outside of HTS although it wasn't really well explained but it's better than nothing I guess. Moved DYH to null. Ah, did miss you restating them by quoting in #1362... tough that was still on page 7/9, which is not exactly towards the end of your filter. =p So with DYH at null you currently don't have a scum read? But two null reads in Fidei86 and DYH? Pretty much. granted I was doing stuff today so :\
uh... "okay"... updates would be kinda swell though...
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On December 08 2015 08:14 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not convinced by his read progression towards EOD1. He is on kushmasta, then comes off him "because he starts to do stuff". He then sheeps Damdred onto LS, without giving much reasoning and crucially while asking Damdred pointed questions about his own progression.
Ah, I can try to explain my thought process on that.
From the top of my hat it went like this:
1. Damdred wants to vote LS (without explanation)
2. I look at LS filter and behold it is bad.
3. Damdred was a town-lean at this point, so while I agree on the filter I want to see where damdred is at, so I can sheep him with confidence.
4. I like damdreds answers upgrade him to a town read (I think I also posted this upgrade) and sheep him onto LS
On December 08 2015 08:36 Fidei86 wrote:
#1570 His read here is actually pretty insightful. It relies upon POE a little bit, but also looking at her read of disfo is pretty smart.
Yeah, that is what gives me pause on DYH at this moment. Despite him being wrong on me, this approach is quite fascinating and I just don't see that coming from scum.
Meanwhile Trfel's filter is as tough as old boots... not sure if I can finish that before going to bed.
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Not yet 100% here. I kinda liked DYH's case on me, but him doing a 180° (again) is kinda strange. I need to double check something on this...
Rels, why are you so sure LS is town?
#1745 : Remember that I did a mistake with the "why is he not voting LS thing"
Can totes see DYH being a thing today. Will be here for reelz in about an hour.
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On December 08 2015 22:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 22:31 disformation wrote:
Not yet 100% here. I kinda liked DYH's case on me, but him doing a 180° (again) is kinda strange. I need to double check something on this...
Rels, why are you so sure LS is town?
#1745 : Remember that I did a mistake with the "why is he not voting LS thing"
Can totes see DYH being a thing today. Will be here for reelz in about an hour. I had a post not a long time ago about it. A combination of LS yelling which he has never done as scum + HTS being OK with LS' lynch until 10 minutes before deadline, and then distancing herself from the lynch
Ah sry.
Btw I was thinking about it for a moment, but I think I can add a bunch of points onto the case againt DYH.
in super short:
Didn't he say he'd look at my interactions with HtS? No word of that... probably didn't find anything to scum read me off, so he switched?
Also if you apply the read technique he used on me and HtS on him and HtS, what do you get?
(need to double check this to verify, but from the top of my hat):
HtS parked him on a scum lean for most of D1, but didn't push/interact with him. Also voted a bunch of ppl that were not DYH.
His only mention of her d1 is that she is middleground and he coudln't find aynthing in her filter.
gotta run now, will verify and probably write a case when I am back.
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Okay, ppl I am back at home.
vote is on DYH and I am going to write a case that will make you wish that your vote was as hot as mine.
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