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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 17:29 GMT
#1769
(Disclaimer: Currently drunk)

What are the odds that Mafia Trfel thread re-enters and calls the current wagon dumpster, and tries for a wagon on NM or Rels who nobody else wants to vote?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 18:04 GMT
#1779
On December 09 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 02:43 NocturneMage wrote:
On December 09 2015 02:29 Fidei86 wrote:
(Disclaimer: Currently drunk)

What are the odds that Mafia Trfel thread re-enters and calls the current wagon dumpster, and tries for a wagon on NM or Rels who nobody else wants to vote?


High. He did this last game, I'm almost positive.


Hm. He came in when 3 ppl where voting on his teammate D1 and called that wagon mafia motivated and tried to discredit the wagon starter.

Doesn't that mean that it would be Trfel DYH? Does that team even make sense? Is it likely the two main wagons Trfel and DYH (NM! Lynch LS with me) are both Mafia?

Xmas party at work.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 20:07 GMT
#1795
This party is going on and I won't have time to read more filters. Please move on to LS. I will consolidate if it's clear its Trfel or DY, but I don't want to lynch either of them right now.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#1806
I would vote FF if nobody wants to join my LS lynch. But I don't really want to vote for DYH. I'd vote Trfel over him.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 21:32 GMT
#1807
On December 09 2015 06:31 LightningStrike wrote:
btw I will read your case dis I was in class into registering for spring semester for college
+ Show Spoiler +
I have finals this week don't expect much from me till like Night 4/Day 5 if we get that far

Hey guys let's take this guy forward to LYLO!

Not. Can we just fucking vote LS please?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 22:07 GMT
#1820
Hey Rels. LS posted in caps again. Guess that means he's town right?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 22:54 GMT
#1880
I'm here. I'm quite drunk though Sorry.

Town need to consolidate now. Let me go check the voting stats and see what's what.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 22:57 GMT
#1886
TS it's not too late to get on LS. I'd rather lynch him times 1,000,000

Like I think FF *could* be mafia, but there were points both ways in his filter
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 22:58 GMT
#1892
I'm going to get scum read times a billion if he flips mafia, but I really don't like everyone shifting onto FF at the last minute when there is no reason to prefer lynching him to LS
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 23:01 GMT
#1896
*facepalm*

*popcorn*
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 23:08 GMT
#1914
Blargh I should have moved to FF rather than sticking on LS.

For my money, unfortunately, this probably clears LS. I don't see why scum LS wouldn't have moved sooner onto Trfel. With town so fractured, I don't see scum separating their votes here. It stands to reason that the last mafia is one of NM or Rels.

Also I'm sorry for being crap. Someone made the point about FF and LS both being decent lynches for the same reason. I should have moved.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 08 2015 23:20 GMT
#1926
@NM

It has to be one of you and Rels. In what universe does mafia not solidly vote together on a lynch, given that town was so hopelessly fractured (in part my bad).
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 09 2015 09:47 GMT
#1967
The thing I don't understand is how the VCA, in my mind, massively implicates either Rels or Alex. But neither seems to think that it could possibly be the other. ???
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 00:09 GMT
#2137
Agh sorry guys, work has been intense over the last couple of days, particularly as we have non-stop parties this time of year. I have our Xmas party tomorrow, and I had drinks this evening as well. Ugh. Will try and do some filter diving around 4:30pm tomorrow till maybe 5:30.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 16:48 GMT
#2188
On December 11 2015 10:55 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 08:20 Fidei86 wrote:
@NM

It has to be one of you and Rels. In what universe does mafia not solidly vote together on a lynch, given that town was so hopelessly fractured (in part my bad).


Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 18:47 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing I don't understand is how the VCA, in my mind, massively implicates either Rels or Alex. But neither seems to think that it could possibly be the other. ???


the position has been explained to James twice that mafia wouldn't give themselves so easily away unless it was mylo or lylo with a confirmed mafia already on the same wagon with them.

Is Fidei bad or mafia here? Looking at the votes alone you can argue that LS thinks scum played suboptimally. But both Rels and I have reasons to townread the other besides the voting. The second part is contradictory.

Granted James is out of touch with the thread. Hmmmm.

I'm going to say for now, suboptimal and pressed for time, as opposed to mafia.

Okay I'm back. Glad there wasn't too much to catch up on. Will read DYH and disfo's filters now if I can.

Quick rejoinder to the above -- you may say you have "explained" it, but I don't accept your explanation as being valid. A townie flip doesn't give nearly as much information as you are suggesting it does. And FF wasn't f'ing confirmed mafia at the time. What you're saying can be made to sound equally implausible - that on a contested lynch with votes moving all over the place, mafia wouldn't try to get a mislynch and then brazen it out.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:01 GMT
#2191
How anyone can be voting for disfo when he effectively hammered FF, god only knows. yeah yeah yeah bussing blah blah, but there are SO many better options than him.

Moving on to DYH.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:02 GMT
#2193
On December 12 2015 01:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 09:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Let's just wagon HTS since her going completely silent the moment her hubby shows up in the game makes me pause. I get that she's sick (get well soon) but trfel's weirdness has made me second guess how much I agree with his scumread on NM.


Here is FF post after voting HTS, 1h40 after the deadline. I didn't realize it; I actually thought FF tried to put suspicions on other people that day. Him voting her this early definitely mean it was a prepared bus. The last scum has to be NM or DYH.

Or you.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:08 GMT
#2196
On December 04 2015 09:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Reposting this since Rels drowned it out with his aggression towards me last night. Seems relevant.

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 14:52 DoYouHas wrote:
1. HtS padded her filter with a lot of recapping and clarifying and meta that doesn't lead to conclusions.

2. HtS spreads around quite a bit of suspicion but does not actually push anyone or really take the lead on anything.
- She scumleans me, plants her vote, and then does nothing to see me lynched. According to #555 I was actually more of a null read and her suspicion and vote were to get me to post more. There is no follow through here, either pressure wise or lynchwise.
- She scumleans kush, points out some stuff that she doesn't like, and then does nothing about it until shenanigans.

3. In spite of all her RL issues she has been plenty active, she is just not really doing anything except engaging Trfel and playing the middle ground.

4. Her play towards LS is highly suspicious. The way I understand it, HtS knows LS better than most. She was reading him critically before any of us and moved him towards null/scum first. She seems unwilling to lynch LS... until Damdred and Palmar take the lead. Then she provides a weak additional reason to not like LS (#627) and switches votes. Does she feel the need to justify her switch beyond just agreeing with Damdred and Palmar?

Here is the important part. Right after LS re-enters the thread super emotional, HtS starts positioning for a townflip and distancing herself from responsibility for the lynch.

LS is someone she knows better than most. She immediately starts doubting the wagon after he reenters the thread. Her response is, "quick! LS, prove to me you are town!" and "crap, I can't get a good enough sense of his meta in 20 minutes to derail this thing!". With the level of doubt she displayed on the wagon she was helping push she should have been among the first to push onto another candidate. Whether that is me or kush, which would make sense for her, or even just Moosy. Any of those plays makes sense for HtS. Instead, she sits on wagon she doesn't like for 30 minutes and only switches when somebody else will get the blame for starting a counterwagon, incidentally, onto another townie.


Why do we think that lynching DYH, who made and re-posted this very early on, is a good idea.

Admittedly my eyes are literally burning with tiredness right now, but I'm not convinced that either disfo or dyh are mafia. Of the two, I think it's 1,000,000 times more likely that it's DYH, but I'd actually rather lynch Rels, then NM. My reasoning, as it was before, is that I think mafia voted together on the last vote. I don't think that FF was sufficiently active to make it a dead cert that the coordination between mafia this game has been good.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:09 GMT
#2197
Looking at Rels' filter now.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:10 GMT
#2198
BTW if it's LS then I reserve the right to kick you all in the nuts. After I've kicked myself in the nuts.
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