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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:06 GMT
#1485
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.

In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:34 GMT
#1494
On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.

In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night.
Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it.

But.....
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post

well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.

I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.

He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.

then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that.
Bold emphasis mine.


no

that wifom can be interpreted in different ways

(1) she could be talkign to a scum buddy - they both are wifoming
(2) she could be trying to wifom town ls
(3) other people reading that could be wifomed by what hts is saying to town/scum ls.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:35 GMT
#1495
I keep getting drawn back to this game, it is too addictive.

also last question, what on earth is a mindmeld?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:45 GMT
#1498
and trfel we can agree to disagree here. hts is going to take out the person scumreading her - that was kush. she was not going to sit on LS regardless because if LS is town, there was an expectation that she should have known LS was town based on meta (if he is town) she looks really bad, and if LS is mafia which he likely is, she needed to get off him and found a meta reason to get off him and once she saw that every one was rushing to kush, she was definitely going to get rid of kush, I guarantee you the same thing would have happened had dyh gotten shennanied, or she would have started that shennanie herself. hts was poor because of agenda.

this is meta, I realise you cannot trust it or may be hesistant to trust it. had she not had a real read on either, she would have gone for the policy lynch, the whole thing points to trying to avoid culpability (yes now I know that is a real word) and I was trying to make that argument all of d2 as I was pushing her.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:47 GMT
#1500
I was saying that as a general statement LS and everyone. also I have too many scumreads so I need to resolve something somewhere.

and the second question, yes I am, but I did not read anything he may have posted that closely after 1800, and like everyone else I do keep evaluating and re-evaluating.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:52 GMT
#1505
On December 06 2015 10:49 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 10:45 NocturneMage wrote:
and trfel we can agree to disagree here. hts is going to take out the person scumreading her - that was kush. she was not going to sit on LS regardless because if LS is town, there was an expectation that she should have known LS was town based on meta (if he is town) she looks really bad, and if LS is mafia which he likely is, she needed to get off him and found a meta reason to get off him and once she saw that every one was rushing to kush, she was definitely going to get rid of kush, I guarantee you the same thing would have happened had dyh gotten shennanied, or she would have started that shennanie herself. hts was poor because of agenda.

this is meta, I realise you cannot trust it or may be hesistant to trust it. had she not had a real read on either, she would have gone for the policy lynch, the whole thing points to trying to avoid culpability (yes now I know that is a real word) and I was trying to make that argument all of d2 as I was pushing her.
If LightningStrike is mafia, as you think, then why did Half the Sky vote for him in the first place, if she was only planning on jumping off, as you say?

Also, can you please address the previous question about why you were giving advice to your scumread, LightningStrike?


Cred. She won't be afraid to bus d1 if she decided she might want to stay on and there was absolutely no better choice that could have made her look better/worse. She knows how to plan ahead as mafia and think through the long game and this is already proven in the two scumgames where she has endgamed.

second question, I wasn't, it was a general response.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:55 GMT
#1507
tldr - let me try and put it for you in one sentence. hts will bus/position herself for a townflip IF SHE FEELS SHE THINKS IT WILL MAKE HER LOOK GOOD. she can fake a lot of shit as mafia, like what rels posted earlier about the whole her checking the wc3 game for his meta....SHE ALREADY KNEW THAT AND WAS TRYING TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK TOWN.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 01:55 GMT
#1509
I feel I answered 1506 with 1507. wtf.

is there some random esp bullshit going on across the atlantic here?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 02:01 GMT
#1511
like I have reasons OTHER than that voting situation to believe LS is mafia, you keep forgetting this. the whole back and forth d2. it's not just the damned voting.

I must be really terrible at explaining things....well at least on mobile anyways.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 02:04 GMT
#1512
On December 06 2015 11:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 10:55 NocturneMage wrote:
I feel I answered 1506 with 1507. wtf.

is there some random esp bullshit going on across the atlantic here?
You didn't really answer my question, but fair enough, I'll stop pressing.

Was hoping you'd make a huge slip and confirm yourself as mafia, but it seems you're too good for that Was worth a try, though. @The Shining, I was primarily trying to get information from NocturneMage, not scumread him for that (though it does make me a bit more confident in my suspicion).

And yes, my reasons for scumreading NocturneMage are mostly small reasons. And small reasons aren't that good, even if there are a lot of them. I have a few big reasons that I think are good, I have to go through and see how good those reasons are and how many there are. Keeping them secret for now because if I say them, it might affect NocturneMage's play.


*facepalm*

alright, 2am.....now I'm off, good night.

I'll work to solve the game, and like I said before, you will accept my god tier read on Dani if you want me to flip Monday night. go right on ahead.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#1546
I'm on mobile again, I had little time today, ironically most of that day was spent with you-know-who (except for Fidei who decided to steal her for a few rounds of dota lmao).

Trfel's tone read on me (or rather the way he is trying to convey it) is very scummy, he fails to understand why my tone is different even though he's already acknowledged that I'm excited to play v HTS. this game got a little (too) personal as soon as I replaced in, how do you not realise this?

gloating in the thread is unnecessary, she knew it was coming, and why troll in this thread when you can troll her in real life?

that is an utterly stupid reason to scumread me.

(2) is terrible for one simple fact - I REPLACED IN AND MY FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH THIS GAME WAS ON MOBILE. You lynched a blue, I started with end of cycle. Then read filters of people that I felt were most critical for my methods of solving the game. Then re-read the thread for full context. Don't like the fact I started with HTS/Palmar/whoever? Too bad. Don't like my scumreads? You read my filter. I engaged in conversation with LS and Fidei to a lesser extent. Others were from reading filters.

people do not all scumhunt in the same manner as you do.

(3) in post 1527 is a joke. what do you mean by "didn't care that she was lynched?" to me it was a damned formality. 1000% knew she was flipping red, I was thinking past this lynch most of d2, if you are somehow town (omg in before he scumreads me for talking to him as if he's town omg!!!!) how are you not seeing this in my filter?

(I am assuming you have delved and done whatever you've done in your case which I very much look forward to reading.)

Or rather he's acknowledged it and just continues to ignore it.

whatever, clearly he's trying to pile me up so I'm just going to ignore him until he spews his grandiose case.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#1547
ebwop - he's trying to RILE me up, which is generally a mafia tactic.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:14 GMT
#1548
On December 07 2015 08:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Hmm Palmar said to lynch Tfrel before his death. Otherwise I don't Palmar was really woth killing.


no

latest scumreads I recall were fidei and trfel (!!!) with fidei being his primary target.

wifom is wifom, maybe they were looking for that blue, but they are down their roleblocker...
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#1549
On December 07 2015 04:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm not at home and I won't really be doing things until tomorrow. I just want to get it out there that without further reviewing my reads, I would vote for Fidei or trfel tomorrow. I actually think Fidei should be the primary lynch candidate.


qfe
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:17 GMT
#1551
at least if nothing else this NK makes part of my scumhunting easier, as palmar was in my scumlean category. one read sorted.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:19 GMT
#1553
could he have been offed before or to prevent that read on James?

I drew association between him and hts before but let's have a look see at James ignoring association with HTS.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:21 GMT
#1554
On December 07 2015 08:18 disformation wrote:
Hmmm... kinda sleeping on fidei86. Like the last time I read his filter, I was not really impressed. but I hadn't the impression it was scummy. Will probably read again.

Do you ppl have a decent read on Fidei86? I also never played with him, so no idea on big meta stuff.

Could also just be mafia trying to WIFOM up the place, but since I don't have a good read on Fidei86 I think at least checking that out would be a good idea.


what did you think of his interactions with me as I was trying to draw an association between him and possibly LS early d2 as I was pushing HTS?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#1556
On December 07 2015 08:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Looking at HtS's filter I have a couple of thoughts.

1. I am very wrong about Trfel, he is town.
2. Disfo may not be the townie that I thought he was. There are a few things that look off to me between him and HtS.
3. The NM bus theory of Trfel may not be far-fetched. HtS was soft defending moosy.

Will elaborate assuming I live. Pretty good bet.


I can't control anything she does. If you people fall for this theory and I flip Monday night, I am the one that will have to deal with physically hearing her laughing her head off from the study, so do pardon if I get a little annoyed at this.

That said, a few people (I forget whom) raised the point about you being in the same boat, you as mafia bussing HTS, one of the first votes on HTS but first real suspicion only after I replaced in.

Any thoughts on those if you looked in that direction?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:38 GMT
#1558
hold on I misstated 1554. I see why you misunderstood.

(reading a few filters but may be interrupted here....)
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 23:39 GMT
#1559
On December 07 2015 08:21 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 08:18 disformation wrote:
Hmmm... kinda sleeping on fidei86. Like the last time I read his filter, I was not really impressed. but I hadn't the impression it was scummy. Will probably read again.

Do you ppl have a decent read on Fidei86? I also never played with him, so no idea on big meta stuff.

Could also just be mafia trying to WIFOM up the place, but since I don't have a good read on Fidei86 I think at least checking that out would be a good idea.


what did you think of his interactions with me as I was trying to draw an association between him and possibly LS early d2 as I was pushing HTS?


rephreased

what did you think of Fidei's interactions with me as I was trying to draw an association between HTS and him and HTS and LS early d2 as I was pushing HTS?

that should be clearer now. apologies.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
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