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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 13:41 GMT
#1194
Alex is NM sorry.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1196
One thing that makes me think you're right on Alex is that if he was Mafia, he would know that it was very likely I would be incredibly suspicious if he hard pushed town Dani. I don't see how he would replace in and immediately try and trade 1 for 1. It doesn't make sense.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 14:02 GMT
#1198
Lets leave it there and see what everyone else has to say. Don't want to hijack the thread totally.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 14:13 GMT
#1201
On December 04 2015 23:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 08:12 NocturneMage wrote:
##vote Half the Sky

I am also pretty sure Fidei is mafia because he is playing nothing like his previous games, but I am so confident in Dani being mafia I am willing to get mislynched to prove my point. This is part meta, part (anti-)personality, part voting analysis (her end of cycle behaviour was really bad), and part psychological (motive-based). I'll try and put together a case as best as I can though so that you can understand it.

Well, that simplifies the day. One of NM and HTS is mafia; maybe both (but unlikely). Cool stuff (=

Great minds, Rels.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 14:18 GMT
#1204
On December 04 2015 23:16 NocturneMage wrote:
There is not a snowball's chance in hell Daniele is town. Just vote her and be done with it. I'm on page 25 and I'm trying to fully catch up between seminars here.

Trfel is either mafia or insane and I'm leaning towards Mafia. Does a Trfel/HTS team make sense, that is another question.

LS is mafia because his filter is trash and knowing that mafia HTS modconfirmed herself in her first student game (as town) and knowing firsthand the quality of her coaching and knowing how intelligent she is (both in game and in life) it is EXTREMELY LIKELY she coached him to modconfirm himself.

There is a reasonable basis I think in the votes, I know I previously looked at HTS position from town LS but it's just as likely with Mafia LS, she would have been one of the last on LS which indicates a bus.

Like I said she is a weasel as mafia, she motivates her teammates she will absolutely coach LS to pull that shit - she did it herself.

Alex what do you think about my analysis of your accusing Dani?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 14:41 GMT
#1221
On December 04 2015 23:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 23:24 disformation wrote:
On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM.

The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town.


actually:
can you explain that to me? i dont understand it?

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On December 04 2015 23:26 NocturneMage wrote:
On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM.

The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town.


No. I thought this at first but I have a reasonable argument against this. I realise it is pre flip association but this becomes more critical once Dani flips.

I think you're both wrong. fidei, there is nothing to explain really; rsoultin and HTS both said that LS has a super hard time lying. Knowing this, it's super unlikely the "mod confirm" thing is WIFOM.

Rels that is just dumb. His "lie" was to say "I'm town". If you can't do that as Mafia then ... And actually I would say your analysis is EVEN MORE likely to make him Mafia. It's easy to lie and say you're Mafia, but it's hard to lie on reads you don't believe in. LS has no reads. That's what I'm saying.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 14:43 GMT
#1225
I am utterly convinced that LS is Mafia. I am willing to accept that Dani is Mafia, although if she flips town we lynch Alex (possibly before LS).

But I will have time this weekend to read some of the outliers (dis might lynch me if I don't at least read DYH again).
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 14:44 GMT
#1226
(By willing to accept, I mean that I thought she was scummy and Alex came in and said similar, and would never say if he wasn't either sure or Mafia. Just for you nit pickers.)
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 15:07 GMT
#1235
On December 05 2015 00:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:
idk why google translate put en instead of à for what I was trying to ask you

Maybe because "en" is the correct word in this case ? =D

I thought en means in not at O_o

Little tip LS. Talking about OG stuff like this as town just craps up the thread. Doing it as Mafia makes you look evasive. Whatever your alignment, please stop it.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 15:20 GMT
#1238
So LS, your scum team is me, DYH and Dani. Except scumming DYH is easy because he has been a low volume poster, scumming Dani is easy because Alex, and scumming me is easy because of OMGUS? All of your reasons for town reading people are "they are towny", or a call back to a past game.

This is a really poorly thought through list that shows no conviction and no intention to solve. LS is Mafia.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 15:24 GMT
#1243
On December 05 2015 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Do I need to die for your sins james?

Negatory. You know I like you bro. Lynching in Mafia is never personal - I have incomplete and imperfect evidence, and I have to reach certain conclusions. If I'm right, I get the glory. If I'm wrong I get the resolve to do better next time.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 15:25 GMT
#1244
On December 05 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW James you should check my read progression of DYH?

I will. I'll also read DYH's filter this evening. Work is slow today, so I've been able to play a lot of Mafia, but it's all phone posting.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 15:48 GMT
#1260
Alex is there anything at all that gives you pause on your read of Dani?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 17:50 GMT
#1285
On December 05 2015 02:44 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 02:43 NocturneMage wrote:
And you Rels also agree with me that Trfel is (likely) mafia as well, is there a case on him, and if so, what page?


EBWOP - Rels, why is Palmar town?

Did anyone here play with Alex in his last Newbie game?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 18:14 GMT
#1290
@Trfel you made a big long post (for reasons?) that barely mentions HTS except to say you don't think she was coaching LS after she AFK'd, then eight minutes later you've had time to read and consider her whole filter and decided she's Mafia? Huh?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 04 2015 18:18 GMT
#1292
On December 05 2015 03:15 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 02:50 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 05 2015 02:44 NocturneMage wrote:
On December 05 2015 02:43 NocturneMage wrote:
And you Rels also agree with me that Trfel is (likely) mafia as well, is there a case on him, and if so, what page?


EBWOP - Rels, why is Palmar town?

Did anyone here play with Alex in his last Newbie game?


Yes.
I also played with him in NSM13, where he was scum. So if you have a question, please feel free to ask.

Also: super lol @ Palmar =D

In the last game I played with him he was like a mild-mannered small town lawyer (he was cop). This game he comes out like a Jack Russell on meth. It's just so different. But he did say after our game he wanted to work on getting his reads listened to. Was wondering how it compares to the last game.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 05 2015 18:30 GMT
#1404
In a fit of hypocrisy, I have spent most of last night / today not looking at the thread really. I actually played DOTA a fair bit with Dani. I have friends coming over this evening, but have plenty of time to play tomorrow. I don't see any reason not to lynch Dani still. My previous reasoning on this stands.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 07 2015 12:37 GMT
#1584
Morning Rels. Yes I played a lot of dota with Dani over the weekend. Yes I sort of lost interest a bit in the game over the weekend. No I'm not Mafia. Yes I will catch up this evening.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 07 2015 13:30 GMT
#1586
On December 07 2015 22:17 disformation wrote:
post from work:
Hm. geript said in the obs QT of last game that if a town player that has very little or no pull with the thread gets nk'ed that most often means he is right. Especially if that player is an experienced one.
Palmar had little pull and is an experienced player. So him disliking fidei and/or LS could be a thing.

Also don't like that Fidei had no follow up on:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:25 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 05 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW James you should check my read progression of DYH?

I will. I'll also read DYH's filter this evening. Work is slow today, so I've been able to play a lot of Mafia, but it's all phone posting.


That being said I want to check his stance on HtS yesterday and see what he brings after catching up.

Will also be looking at DYH, Trfel and LS later, when I am at home.

Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 20:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
lol accidentally fallout until 3:45

what a good towny.

Who should I sheep?


Dunno, there seem to be a bunch of candidates for today. So you know, you could like... read their (trfel/fidei/disformation) filters and the cases on them and decide which one you like most/least? -.-


If you look back at my filter, you'll see that in my first or second post, I ping out HTS as being possible mafia based on her approach. I'm pretty proud of my read there. I don't see why I would have posted that early if I was on a team with Dani. I was also one of the first to make the point that Alex's read meant we had to lynch her. It was sort of the focus of my entire D2.

As to not following up over the weekend - what can I say. I wasn't enthused to play much. Dani was going to get lynched whatever, and I ended up doing other things all weekend. Given that my filter is already pretty long and I've given tons of reads, I'm not sure that "he went AFK for a weekend" is a good enough reason to lynch me. In fact, it really isn't.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 07 2015 13:40 GMT
#1589
On December 07 2015 22:30 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 21:37 Fidei86 wrote:
Morning Rels. Yes I played a lot of dota with Dani over the weekend. Yes I sort of lost interest a bit in the game over the weekend. No I'm not Mafia. Yes I will catch up this evening.


Fidei was probably discussing Mafia strategy with HTS in dota land before she was lynched Saturday night. Typical dota players.





(that was a complete joke btw...I'm a League player so of course I will say this)


I asked her to give you a message that I see through all of your many lies, but it was a joke.*

*Possibly not a joke.

:-)
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