EPTRels is probably town for this.
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On December 03 2015 07:49 disformation wrote: Hm, I don't know. I don't really feel the town vibe in his post. Like the capslock turn me off, I guess. Also had to read it twice to guess what his stance on Damdred is. But I haven't played a game with LightningStrike. I think I shadowed HtS in a game where LightningStrike was gunsmith, but I don't remember/recall him being that emotional. What gives me a bit of a pause is that now nearly everyone is voting for LS. -.- I think this probably makes disfo town as well. | ||
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On December 03 2015 08:10 Trfel wrote: Everything about his play says town except for the thing that I quoted. I actually think that the thing that I quoted is extremely scummy, such that he can't be town. Do you think otherwise, and if so can you please explain it to me so that I can be comfortable with my LightningStrike townread? Also, NocturneMage, I apologize for you having replaced into a mafia slot. At least I have a fair opportunity for revenge. Trfel you were convinced LS was scum, urged people not to shift off him, weren't convinced by the "mod confirmed" argument, but then moved off him and onto MD? Yes you were on MD before LS, but why? | ||
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On December 03 2015 08:18 The Shining wrote: Trfel. You think LS is scum now. Especially after his comments regarding lynching Moosy after his flip, but saying he's just voting Moosy to save himself. But you just said NM replaced into a scumslot. Does this mean you think both lynches were scum before the shennany onto kush? Also this. 0.0 didn't think of this this way, but pretty sure TS is town now. | ||
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On December 04 2015 08:20 Trfel wrote: NocturneMage is right, Fidei86 should be added to this list. I really don't know about Half the Sky. It's very hard for me to separate the play from the cold/sickness/whatever. I'll definitely take another look, though. Tempted to lynch one of Half the Sky/NocturneMage and then the other if they flip town, but that seems bad; the scum should be able to be found without having to do that. I'm going to assume for now that NocturneMage is good enough as town that he wouldn't get this wrong, for simplicity's sake, but I'll re-evaluate this assumption when he makes his case. I'm actually almost completely sold on this case. If Dani wasn't having an awful time with the sickness, I would be very confident she was mafia. The key points for me are: 1. Tone. Her posts have a lifeless quality, but it's not clear she actually believe anything she's posting. I mentioned this earlier. 2. At EOD she was 'voting' for LS but wasn't looking for another candidate, then moved onto kush. I've done multiple EOD's with her and usually she's actively trying to solve. It's not clear that she was trying to solve. Both of those things could be explained by themselves viz the sickness, but both of them together, combined with her actually okay activity? I think Alex might well be right on this. I need to read her filter more carefully, but that's for tomorrow. Also can we have a new rule that only people who didn't blindly follow me into the EOD lynch can call me scum? (Okay, MD and Trfel did not follow me, but that precludes a decent chunk of the rest of you). | ||
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Also if I was scum I would 100% have shot Dani. Gameplay regardless, scum Fidei shoots HTS n1 every game. Every time. So there's that. | ||
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On December 04 2015 08:38 The Shining wrote: Like I am looking forward to NMs case, I don't see much reason to town HtS either but Trfels change in tone here, I just don't really understand. How does Damdred being the NK and NM making a post without actually making a case yet absolve Trfel of his 100% read oin MD/NM without any sort of response to NM? Has anyone ever played with super tryhard Trfel as town? The closest I've seen to this is Kita in Personalities, but that was just one post. This is way more. | ||
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On December 04 2015 08:55 DoYouHas wrote: The is a bad association, not just because they are unflipped. The problem with HtS's EoD isn't what you are saying here. The problem is that her sentiment and action don't match. Her sentiment is that she has major doubts that the lynch is a good one. Her action is to stay on the wagon when she has plenty of reasons, based on her own reads, to go for another lynch on me, kush, or moosy. This is positioning for a townflip while doing nothing substantial to stop it. Heh, that actually makes a lot more sense than my point. Damn. What was HTS' read of Kush before EOD *goes to filter* | ||
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On December 04 2015 09:00 NocturneMage wrote: No. This is false. Soft pushing is an indicator that you are likely mafia if/when she flips. You didn't go anywhere. She is my first priority but you're next after her  Also last point is false, you endgamed her once, so no you didn't. That's a terrible metric anyhow as nightkills are generally team decisions. I'm not sure you can call it "end gaming" when the game ends on N3 with a 6 man soup. And for the record, I did try and NK her in that game but Rels overrode me (I think). | ||
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1. What is your case on Dani? Because I personally find it extremely weird that you come into the thread with a "100% Dani is Mafia" read, but don't really flesh it out. The first thing you said substantively was basically copied from someone else. In Resistance V your read on her was spot on, and it was quick and to the point. Ditto on your reads when we played together in Newbie - the Fidei throw edition. The more you go on, the more it sort of seems like you're trying to get her lynched because she might correctly read you. 2. I don't think it's likely that Dani would intentionally play up being ill to win a game. She has certainly liberally sprinkled Og knowledge in game before. But here it seems like pretty much every other post she makes references it. I really hope she gets well soon (<3) but is it possible she is subconsciously playing it up to win sympathy? | ||
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Alex - NocturneMage James - Me | ||
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On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote: Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post? That was weird maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry. | ||
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On December 04 2015 09:34 NocturneMage wrote: Okay seriously, go ahead and lynch me. I truly don't give a fuck. Just allow me to find the other two mafia first before you kill me. Nobody is talking about lynching you. I wanted to probe your thoughts a little bit, because your writing so far has been a little less ... I don't know, maybe dispassionate? Insightful? I just have never seen you go after a lynch with such abandon before. And if you don't like my reasons for pushing you a little bit, then please do scum read me. But hopefully you'll see them for what they are. | ||
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