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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 21:48 GMT
#623
On December 03 2015 06:41 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:41 disformation wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:29 Palmar wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I’ll be honest and say I love these “Moosy is useless but it’s NAI!” “Moosy is a weird af player, can’t read him now!”

My name must spread far and wide.


Like taking pride in this shit is basically the hallmark of a person too dumb to really play mafia.


To be totally honest: I totally do not like MoosyDoosy.
Last game, after nearly lynching himself as the martyr D1 he proceeded to shoot a nullread (who was town) over his two scum reads (who where also both town), cause he was convinced he would be able to lynch his both scum reads anyway.
I was one of those two scum reads, so I am a bit biased. To be fair my D1 last game was super horrible.

So I am probably at least somewhat biased against MoosyDoosy.

Meanwhile: upgrading Damdred's town lean to a town read. Give me a few mins to try and forget my dislike of MoosyDoosy to see, which lynch is think is better, since I a) nearly forgot LS was in this game (usually a bad sign) and b) the points Damdred has on him look pretty valid.
MoosyDoosy was fricking obvious town last game.

Like, really really obvious.


No he wasn't. He was almost lynched. And you had perfect info from the start of the game as scum. You also pulled this woe is me, no one is listening to me stunt last game. If there was anyone else competing for the lynch with Moosy right now, Id say you were trying to protect a scum partner. Looking at Moosys filter, it looks bad but its nowhere near enough to be 100% sure he's scum like you are.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 21:53 GMT
#625
Damdred before I sheep you, can you explain something to me?

You had fidei on one of your earlier town lists. Then you had him just above LS on your next list after that, saying he was dropping. Then in one of your last few posts regarding him, you said he was still a town lean. So that 2nd post:

On December 02 2015 09:36 Damdred wrote:
Disinformation
Eels
Damdred
Shining
Palmar

Leans
Trfel
Fid (falling)
Ls

Honestly it's notso bad so far even though I've read 0 filters.


Are those leans weak town leans or scum leans?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 21:59 GMT
#638
On December 03 2015 06:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:48 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:41 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:41 disformation wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:29 Palmar wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I’ll be honest and say I love these “Moosy is useless but it’s NAI!” “Moosy is a weird af player, can’t read him now!”

My name must spread far and wide.


Like taking pride in this shit is basically the hallmark of a person too dumb to really play mafia.


To be totally honest: I totally do not like MoosyDoosy.
Last game, after nearly lynching himself as the martyr D1 he proceeded to shoot a nullread (who was town) over his two scum reads (who where also both town), cause he was convinced he would be able to lynch his both scum reads anyway.
I was one of those two scum reads, so I am a bit biased. To be fair my D1 last game was super horrible.

So I am probably at least somewhat biased against MoosyDoosy.

Meanwhile: upgrading Damdred's town lean to a town read. Give me a few mins to try and forget my dislike of MoosyDoosy to see, which lynch is think is better, since I a) nearly forgot LS was in this game (usually a bad sign) and b) the points Damdred has on him look pretty valid.
MoosyDoosy was fricking obvious town last game.

Like, really really obvious.


No he wasn't. He was almost lynched. And you had perfect info from the start of the game as scum. You also pulled this woe is me, no one is listening to me stunt last game. If there was anyone else competing for the lynch with Moosy right now, Id say you were trying to protect a scum partner. Looking at Moosys filter, it looks bad but its nowhere near enough to be 100% sure he's scum like you are.


Wait Shining, do you think Trfel is 100% scum?


Nah you misread. I meant Trfel is 100% that MD is scum. I'm seeing a few similarities in his play from last game, though, but not enough to case. It's more gut than anything. His really hard d1 push on Scott feels like the Moosy push here. His "idk no one is listening to me, I give up" feels like when he was trying to push off of Breshke, his scummmate, last game. The only reason I can't fully scumread it is because at the time, there was no one competing with MD for lynch like Breshke was last game.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:02 GMT
#645
On December 03 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:53 The Shining wrote:
Damdred before I sheep you, can you explain something to me?

You had fidei on one of your earlier town lists. Then you had him just above LS on your next list after that, saying he was dropping. Then in one of your last few posts regarding him, you said he was still a town lean. So that 2nd post:

On December 02 2015 09:36 Damdred wrote:
Disinformation
Eels
Damdred
Shining
Palmar

Leans
Trfel
Fid (falling)
Ls

Honestly it's notso bad so far even though I've read 0 filters.


Are those leans weak town leans or scum leans?


These were also gut reads mind you where I had just glanced at posts 0 filters read at that point. They were slightly town leans.


So you still hadn't read when you voted Fidei over LS? Then read and backtracked on Fidei iirc because of some posts and that his activity fit his scum lurkiness but you like some things in his post and then started pushing LS. Do I have this timeline right? Sorry I had a ton of pages to read and I don't wanna misunderstand.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:05 GMT
#650
On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?


I do in lylo lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:09 GMT
#657
On December 03 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Sure shining,

before we go down this rabbit hole where you are trying to vet me. Remember we have 56 minutes before lynch roughly and you need to comment on what i'm saying on LS. That is the most important thing right now.

Fid was a town read earlier in the day for me almost right out of the gate, his lack of activity caused him to drop for me almost out of my town reads. He still hadn't done anything when I woke up so I "voted" him as I didn't really vote in the vote thread i'm not sure you could call it that however. It was pressure to see what he would do.

His posts afterwards as I've caught up have seemed not so bad his read post I liked to some extent.


I like your points on LS, to the point where i would sherp them, but I wanted clarification on the Fidei read because he was one of my scumreads and hasn't done much else except town me(pocket because I scummed him early?) And I like the question HtS just threw at him about voting MD over LS. I wanted to see if you saw a good reason to town him that I wasn't seeing, as well as making sure your progression on him made sense, which it does to me.

What do you think of HtS question to him tho?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:13 GMT
#662
On December 03 2015 07:09 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Sure shining,

before we go down this rabbit hole where you are trying to vet me. Remember we have 56 minutes before lynch roughly and you need to comment on what i'm saying on LS. That is the most important thing right now.

Fid was a town read earlier in the day for me almost right out of the gate, his lack of activity caused him to drop for me almost out of my town reads. He still hadn't done anything when I woke up so I "voted" him as I didn't really vote in the vote thread i'm not sure you could call it that however. It was pressure to see what he would do.

His posts afterwards as I've caught up have seemed not so bad his read post I liked to some extent.


I like your points on LS, to the point where i would sherp them, but I wanted clarification on the Fidei read because he was one of my scumreads and hasn't done much else except town me(pocket because I scummed him early?) And I like the question HtS just threw at him about voting MD over LS. I wanted to see if you saw a good reason to town him that I wasn't seeing, as well as making sure your progression on him made sense, which it does to me.

What do you think of HtS question to him tho?


I meant hasn't done much else regarding my read on him. Whereas Palmar tried to pick it apart.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:16 GMT
#666
On December 03 2015 07:15 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay DAMDRED IS A FUCKING IDIOT WHY FORGOT TO READ I ME BEEN BUT HE READ ME CORRECTLY ALL BUT THE TIME HE BEEN MAFIA.............
Dropping my vote on MD IDK HOME BUT I VT I DON'T TO DIE NOW.
##Vote:MooseyDoosey
You think that Damdred is town?


Ummmmmmmmmmmm. If I read that correctly, I think he's saying the only time Damdreds ever read him wrong is as scum.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:20 GMT
#671
I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#675
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote:
I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately.
That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise?

I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack.


Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:28 GMT
#683
On December 03 2015 07:25 Half the Sky wrote:
This is LS and he generally is a very emotional player. I know others can fake emotion but this IS LS.

LS, what do you think of Trfel and what do you think of Damdred? Talk to us for cripe's sake if you are town, you have half an hour.

Let me check Warcraft 3 since I am assuming that's the game that Shining is referring to?


Drams is the game. And comparing the filters from the two games, there is a lot more reads and content from him in Drams then here over 2 pages. And his questions were much more pointed.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:31 GMT
#687
On December 03 2015 07:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote:
I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately.
That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise?

I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack.


Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham.


I'd have to disagree, he lost his head to the point in Himalayas that Fecalfeast and I warned and took post-game action on him. It is not unprecedented.


Mmmm I didn't read or play that game. But the votes are tied and still people not voting. Does it make sense to freak like that then afk if ur town? I've never been good at reading LS so I'm genuinely asking hefe
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:33 GMT
#688
On December 03 2015 07:28 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote:
I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately.
That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise?

I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack.


Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham.


I'd have to disagree, he lost his head to the point in Himalayas that Fecalfeast and I warned and took post-game action on him. It is not unprecedented.

But Dani would you not agree that usually he puts more of an effort than this? Thinking about switching.


...I'm still on the fence with you. Don't vote LS and make this harder for me sigh
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:35 GMT
#692
On December 03 2015 07:33 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:31 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote:
I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately.
That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise?

I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack.


Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham.


I'd have to disagree, he lost his head to the point in Himalayas that Fecalfeast and I warned and took post-game action on him. It is not unprecedented.


Mmmm I didn't read or play that game. But the votes are tied and still people not voting. Does it make sense to freak like that then afk if ur town? I've never been good at reading LS so I'm genuinely asking hefe
I thought he said he was in the middle of coming home from class?


He said he was leaving soon, then the angry post said idk home. Idk=omw?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:39 GMT
#694
On December 03 2015 07:34 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:33 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:28 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote:
I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately.
That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise?

I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack.


Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham.


I'd have to disagree, he lost his head to the point in Himalayas that Fecalfeast and I warned and took post-game action on him. It is not unprecedented.

But Dani would you not agree that usually he puts more of an effort than this? Thinking about switching.


...I'm still on the fence with you. Don't vote LS and make this harder for me sigh

? Care to explain.


You were an early scumread of mine. You also scumleaned me. Palmar basically said I OMGUSd you and him for bad reasons and I explained why I thought that one early post felt scummy to me. Ive been pressed for time since I got back today because I'm at work but I skimmed your filter and saw you towned me through that Palmar exchange. But I made some posts a while ago asking Damdred to explain his TR on you. I still have my doubts on you. But since you've been here, you haven't tried to engage me on my read until now. And you're considering voting LS, who I'm considering voting. So do I want to vote with someone I have doubts about? That makes this hard for me.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:45 GMT
#702
On December 03 2015 07:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay DAMDRED IS A FUCKING IDIOT WHY FORGOT TO READ I ME BEEN BUT HE READ ME CORRECTLY ALL BUT THE TIME HE BEEN MAFIA.............
Dropping my vote on MD IDK HOME BUT I VT I DON'T TO DIE NOW.
##Vote:MooseyDoosey

OK rsoultin read time: angry LS is town LS.


Someone said that about me in Drams and I was scum. I don't like these angry tone reads.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:50 GMT
#708
With the amount of voting reminders I've received, it wouldn't shock me if both MD and Onegu were modkilled. But that doesn't help us figure out the lynch here. I will say if either one ninjas in a vote before EoD and doesn't post anything, its going to look really bad.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:52 GMT
#716
Yeah I don't really like the way kush and DYH got onto the LS wagon. And what disfo just said about everyone voting LS. It took off really quickly. Damdred hasn't come back either and LS is pretty much his wagon.

Ugh.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:53 GMT
#719
On December 03 2015 07:53 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm the biggest advocate of intelligent sheeping being a very useful skill to have.

Did LS claim yet?


He claimed VT
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:56 GMT
#737
On December 03 2015 07:55 LightningStrike wrote:
YOU KNOW WHAT DAMDRED WHEN YOU SEE MY FLIP PLEASE POST BABY SEALS


Looks like he thinks Damdred is scum
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