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NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 00:50 GMT

#1089

EBWOP - Actually that post from LS is bad (1080) because it is self-meta. Still.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 00:59 GMT

#1094

On December 04 2015 09:56 LightningStrike wrote:

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I honestly think it happened because kush's post regarding his reason to lynch me rubbed everyone the wrong way due to over explanation from his part. HTS felt like it the lynch on me was weird if I remember what her thoughts was before her switch. Palmar didn't like kush's comment hence why he went to kush. Shining rather had lynched Kush at the time over me. James what he did he say again about kush(will reread his filter soon).

Okay, this is just dumb.

How are you saying overexplanation? I had a huge problem with Palmar saying the same thing about Kush actually because his argument about you using shitty meta was quite valid. Or at the very least meta that is very hard to understand the basis for your reads for even if it is valid. It was a valid argument and I don't even recall that argument being very wordy.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:17 GMT

#1100

bah fuck it's 1am...let me try and bang out this case on dani since some people here aren't convinced.

ALSO LS, for the love of everything good, do you have any bloody scumreads? or conclusions? I mean, seriously any?!?!!?!??!?!?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:25 GMT

#1106

On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM.

Oh wow, I missed this, considering how utter shit tier LS's filter is, and seeing something like this, you might not be as mafia as I think you are.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:27 GMT

#1108

On December 04 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:

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Mafia had a field day most likely at EoD prob laughed there asses off when kush flipped boxer. Anyways time to pick FF's brain a little bit.
@FFWhat your thoughts on regarding the shannies regarding the people you had asked me about?

no shit??????????

you are basically saying that Moosy (now myself) is town - duh, thank you for telling me something I didn't already know
you are saying that kush is town - duh, he flipped, again, thank you for telling me something I didn't already know
you are saying that you are town, which you have to do as either alignment.

so what are you telling me about the other players?

.................................

do you understand why I'm having trouble thinking that you are town?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:31 GMT

#1110

I don't ever recall playing with you.

And you still aren't answering the question. Who are your scumreads? Names, reasons. let's go.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:38 GMT

#1120

On December 04 2015 10:34 disformation wrote:
Ah actually, upon looking at DYH again...
Let me bring up Rels case again. Cause it got kinda lost in the forest.

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On December 03 2015 20:19 Rels wrote:
DoYouHas is probably scum: a solid case

1. Agreeing to a setup idea that is benefit to scum; without being the first to propose it

Talking about this post:

On December 01 2015 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Firstly for the roles, nobody should talk about this besides an opinion going forward, if you are a named towny you should claim asap, it narrows down the pool that we lynch from and also gives us more to work with. however if you are the Vet do not claim unless absolutely necessary. If you are shot claim if you aren't shut the hell up. After you use your power claim straight away your findings if you are one shot obviously do not pussy foot away and give mafia the ability to cause town to second guess you. As such thank you for your time in reading this.

On December 01 2015 08:32 DoYouHas wrote:
I second the immediate claim by a boxer if we have one.

boxer claiming is (was =X ) bad for town 50% of the time, so this post pushes a scum advantage. Furthermore, he's agreeing with Damdred on that, not taking responsability for the idea.

2. His Trfel's read makes no sense
Already explained here:

On December 01 2015 22:22 Rels wrote:
I don't like that progression from DoYouHas.

On December 01 2015 08:57 DoYouHas wrote:

On December 01 2015 08:50 Trfel wrote:

On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:

On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?

Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later.

Interesting...

Okay, what the heck.

First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it.

Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment?

I assumed your post was a bit of a joke. Reconsidering with how fast you jumped on the defensive here.

"Trfel you might be scum."

2 posts later:

On December 01 2015 08:57 Damdred wrote:
You are an idiot but you are most likely town.

If you can't explain in a coherent way why I am mafia then obviously I am not.

Damdred: "Trfel is most likely town."

1 post later:

On December 01 2015 09:00 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm pretty happy with Damdred atm. With the exception of one point in his first post I feel like I've got the mind meld going with him... for now.

TLDR: you crazy trfel

"Trfel you're crazy." So Trfel is considered town here.

It doesn't add up.
##Vote DoYouHas

3. A total apathy towards the lynch
Here are the two posts DYH made after coming back to EOD:

On December 03 2015 07:01 DoYouHas wrote:
Catching up now.

I can't see any scum motivation behind Trfel's hard defending of me. It doesn't even look like positioning for my flip is even really a possibility here. I was going after him, voted him, thread sentiment is against me. I'm an easy EASY person for scum trfel to keep the heat on. That he ran the other direction when there is no reason to as mafia is major town points in my book. Unvoting.

On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.

##Vote: LS

On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.

DYH just didn't care about the lynch. The third post was only made after I tried to get people to vote him. Furthermore, disfo bought a really good point about sheeping his "townreads":

On December 03 2015 08:15 disformation wrote:

On December 03 2015 08:12 Rels wrote:
I try to shenanni on DYH and nothing happens.
fidei says something about kush and everybody switches.
fuck that I should have yelled

Wanted to switch to DYH, but decided to go into his filter and make a post...
I kinda want to restate that post, because I think he would be a good lynch so:

His reason for voting LS:

Last mention of me in his filter:

On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.

Gnight folks

@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.

So I am kinda asking myself where he got that magical TR on me from...
Taking a break now.

Conclusion
If we have a vig, you know who to shoot.

I don't have a definitive read on Rels yet, but are you suggesting that DYH is bussing HTS for cred? I'm saying this because he's called her out for near identical (and obviously less personal but still just as valid) reasons that I know she is mafia. Then again nearly everyone was scumreading him?

Meh I wasn't halfway through the thread when I started breaking on Dani, but what makes you think this?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:39 GMT

#1122

On December 04 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:

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Idk I'll be blunt on that. Maybe DYH if I wrong on him.

So both you and disformation (confirm?) think DYH is bussing HTS?

well answer for yourself...why? in your own words, why?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:40 GMT

#1123

EBWOP - or do you not think HTS is scum and you think he's mislynching her? either way what is making him mafia?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:45 GMT

#1130

On December 04 2015 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:

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Hold your horses I didn't say HTS is scum :o
If I wrong on DYH it's because I thought he was a newbie and Rels case seems okay but not really enough to convince me to vote him right now.

????????????????????????????????

yeah that was from my POV that HTS is scum, because I'm >99% sure she's mafia, but if you don't think she is...

that's a horrible answer though, how is him being a newbie alignment indicative? Why couldn't a newbie try and get someone mislynched, why couldn't Rels make a case on any player of that experience?

I have zero clue what you are trying to say here.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:51 GMT

#1134

well shit, if you want to make the argument someone is bussing hts and needs the cred, I can see that from a generic standpoint, you had blazinghand in vanilla mafia who pulled that shit off with onegu and people were townreading him for no reason and then damn moosydoosy swindled all of us in newbie 14 by bussing his damn roleblocker all game because he was being scumread by the town leaders in rayn/yamato d1, so, situationally that is plausible.

nothing looked off from the filter but guess I'll re-read in context?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:54 GMT

#1138

On December 04 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways who should we lynch outside of me and HTS and why NM?

I'm looking at Fidei and Trfel mainly, Fidei is a combination of association between HTS and overall gameplay and Trfel's constant usage of terrible points to case people just reminds me of his scumgames, but granted, if HTS is one scummer, I have too many people here so obviously I'm wrong on someone.

And there's still others I haven't looked at that I could potentially just be missing or way off target with.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 01:59 GMT

#1143

On December 04 2015 10:56 LightningStrike wrote:

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I have her null. Like sure she had some weird stuff regarding me and other people but I think it will be easier to get read on her if she is in better health. The HTS I remember when she scum is she hates people trying to lynch her and will look for a lynch that will save her unless her team wants to bus her.

are you shitting me???????

THIS IS WHAT SHE HAS DONE IN ALL HER SCUMGAMES, GET OFF LYNCHES THAT PUT HER TO THE GREATEST ADVANTAGE.

SHE HAS HAD TWO SCUMGAMES WHERE DESPITE ILLNESS SHE ENDGAMED TOWN!!!!!!

WHAT PART OF THIS ARGUMENT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 02:00 GMT

#1144

And this coming from someone who is using meta all the time in his arguments?

The more I converse with you the more I think you might be mafia.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 02:02 GMT

#1145

for emphasis LS

On December 04 2015 09:15 NocturneMage wrote:
Also people making the argument that she is town because she is tryharding, just no. Hell no.

Daniele plays to win as either alignment. Period. She has been sick before and has fought for wincon as either alignment. As town, as mafia, as third party, end of.

Her first mafia game, she passed out d1 (not playing mafia but for other reasons), and went on to carry the scumteam.
Her second mafia game, she got food poisoning d1 and her team won after she was able to get a few people lynched.
In Personality Mafia (town), she had to take breaks during end of cycle trying to get her scumreads off, and she did, she was killed night 1, but she got off some great reads that resulted in the subsequent deaths of those she was scumreading.
In her second town game - Carol - she was jailkeeper and she had a lot of real life issues that game. She brought home the game with a well timed claim despite the mafia tryharding to get her mislynched.

Don't townread anyone regardless of anything happening out of game to them.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 02:08 GMT

#1151

On December 04 2015 11:07 Trfel wrote:
I'm on a phone and can't read the thread atm but I kind of think both NM and HTS are scum right now.

LOL? why?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 02:14 GMT

#1155

On December 04 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:

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He thought MD was scum therefore by default you are scum according to his logic

the better question is why he thinks I'm bussing HTS.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 04 2015 02:15 GMT

#1156

On December 04 2015 11:13 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW if anyone is wondering I do think NM is town based on my interactions with him and Tfrel is just tunneled on him.

so do you think Dani is still town?